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Hi,
The Word is the Spirit of Christ.
The Word was made flesh when Jesus of Nazareth was anointed at the Jordan.
Thence he was used as a spokesperson and instrument for God’s purposes.
◄ Luke 1:35 ►
The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.◄ 1 Corinthians 15:47 ►
The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven.Amen. But not all will believe the second man who is of heaven. They want to believe a man like us. A man from earth.
Hi t8,
Are you saying he was not a son of man?
Jb 25
Are you saying he was not an overcomer?
Rev 3
Are you saying he was not tempted?
Heb
Or is it traditional catholic teaching you offer?
No Nick, this is your imagination.
He was born holy, so he was able to resist and not be overcome. He was tempted and it wouldn’t be called temptation if he could not be tempted.
He was for example seriously tempted to have the cross mission removed, but being obedient, he chose the Father’s will over his in his hour of weakness.
T8….Jesus was tempted after he was anointed with the spirit of God, and he was able to overcome SATAN through that spirit given him at the Jordan river. Remember what Jesus said about himself, ‘THE SON OF “MAN” CAN DO “NOTHING” OF HIMSELF, THE FATHER IN HIM DOTH THE WORKS.” Jesus know he had the spirit of God (the word, or logos) “IN” him. But none of that made Jesus that word or logos that was “IN” HIM.
Why can’t you understand that, you seem to praise Jesus to the exclusion of GOD THE FATHER AS TRINITARIANS DO. JESUS WAS TOTALLY dependent on the FATHER, or haven’t you read this, “THE WORDS OR LOGOS I AM TELLING YOU, ARE “NOT” MINE, BUT THE WORDS OF HIM WHO SENT ME. Now if the words or logos he was telling us were not his, then why call him “the word” himself, and not relize it was GOD THE FATHER “SPEAKING” THROUGH HIM. Why do you rob God the Father, by saying GOD’S words are not GOD’S but jesus’, that is something Jesus never did.
You seem to be caught somewhere between a trinitarian and a non trinitarian. JESUS never tried to make himself equal with the Father, he was totally dependent on the FATHER, FOR “EVERYTHING” HE HAD, INCLUDING THE WORDS AND LIFE ITSELF, just as we must also.
Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene
Hi t8,
You ascribe to a man a nature, powers and abilities that are of God.
You fail to recognise God’s work in a human vessel.
You offer the folly of man’s tradition.
Honour the special vessel.
Give glory to God.
Nick….Amen to that brother. O how I hope t8 comes to see this also.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
John 6:63
Jesus said, “The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life.”Hebrews 4:12-13
“For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.”TO ALL ….God and his word are one and the same being mm God is spirit and can in dwell his whole creation.
There is only one God and one mediator between God and men the “MAN” Jesus Christ. Just that simple nothing difficult about it. Just believe what Jesus said and you shouldn’t have any trouble with understanding it. IMO
Peace and love to you all and yours……….gene
THE WORD IS SIMPLY
JESUS CHRIST
THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD
SEE REVELATION 19
prophecy.
[11] And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
[12] His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
[13] And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called THE WORD OF GOD.“THE WORD” WAS WITH GOD
AND WAS GOD.
…..AND WAS MADE FLESH….
THE FATHER MADE A BODY TO THE SON
Hebrews 10:5
Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:God bless
The Word of God means the spokesman of God. The King of ancient Abyssinia had a spokesman called Kal Hatze, meaning “The Word of the King”.
Hebrews 1:1-2 explains this very well… in the past God spoke to us THROUGH prophets – in more recent times He spoke to us THROUGH His Son.
The prophets God spoke through were not God Himself… neither is the Son God spoke through.
BTW, John 1:1 teaches that the word was with THE God in the beginning (Greek definite article), and was himself a god (no definite article). YHWH is the Most High God of gods – Jesus, Satan, Michael, Gabriel, Moloch, Dagon, etc are less high gods that YHWH is the God OF.
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