JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

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     mikeboll64 
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    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 19 2012,08:23)
    Hi Mike,

    Hebrew doesn't have a specific word for “GOD” either.
    Do you have trouble distinguishing the difference?
    Don't the words LORD and Lord throw you off?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Ed,

    Are you adept enough to address my post? Or is it beyond your comprehension?

    Btw, as can be seen from the other thread, it is YOU who has some inconsistencies and misunderstandings about the word “kurios”. :)

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     Ed J 
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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 20 2012,02:32)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 19 2012,08:23)
    Hi Mike,

    Hebrew doesn't have a specific word for “GOD” either.
    Do you have trouble distinguishing the difference?
    Don't the words LORD and Lord throw you off?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Ed,

    Are you adept enough to address my post?  Or is it beyond your comprehension?

    Btw, as can be seen from the other thread, it is YOU who has some inconsistencies and misunderstandings about the word “kurios”.  :)


    misunderstandings about the word “kurios”?

    #279390
     mikeboll64 
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    Yes Ed. Now, back to the discussion we were having in THIS thread:

    Do you understand that “owlam” doesn't always refer to “from eternity”? Have you read the scriptures NETNotes listed where that word refers to things we KNOW aren't “from eternity”?

    Do you acknowledge that the accompanying word “origins” tell us that “owlam”, in the case of Micah 5:2, does NOT refer to “from eternity”, because anyone “from eternity” did not have an origin at all.

    Can you refute the fact that Jesus could have been named Jesus in heaven long before the angel told Mary to name him Jesus on earth?

    See? These are the things we are discussing in THIS thread. Why not address THESE things instead of trying to bring a discussion we're having in a DIFFERENT thread into this one?

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     NickHassan 
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    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 19 2012,20:04)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 19 2012,17:13)
    Hi ED,
    The Spirit of the Father has been and is poured out but ever lives in God.
    That Holy Spirit in Christ and in the prophets and with the Israelites is called the Spirit of Christ.


    Hi Nick,

    I guess that's the long version of “yes”. :D

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi ED,
    The Spirit of Christ is of the Spirit of God yet one with the Spirit of God.

    #279406
     mikeboll64 
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    What does that mean, Nick? ???

    Is the spirit of Christ the Holy Spirit itself? YES or NO?

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi MB,
    Yes
    and you need to look more deeply.

    #279413
     mikeboll64 
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    John 16
    7 Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.

    Did Jesus mean to say that after HE goes, he will send HIMSELF back to them?  Because the word “him” that Jesus used makes me think that the Counselor is not Jesus himself.

    13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. 14 He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you. 15 All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you.

    Jesus uses “he” alot in these verses, but the part I bolded should be enough for you to recognize that the spirit is not Jesus himself.

    #279421
     NickHassan 
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    Hi,
    The Spirit of truth PROCEEDS from the Father
    Jn15.26
    Jesus Christ proceeded forth and came from God
    Jn8 42

    The Word was with God and was God… and the CHRIST spoke for God

    #279422
     terraricca 
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,10:53)
    Hi MB,
    Yes
    and you need to look more deeply.


    nick

    how deep ,until we see it your way ??

    or as to scriptures ?

    I take scriptures any time ,all of the time

    #279423
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T,
    Don't stumble.
    Follow the light.

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     kerwin 
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    Quote (jammin @ Feb. 01 2012,09:46)
    anyone from the anti christ group willing to answer this topic?


    Jammim,

    I would have to test the spirit of the teaching to determine if it is against King Jesus or not.

    #279425
     NickHassan 
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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 02 2012,08:38)
    The Word is Jesus – a god who was with THE God in the beginning.


    Hi MB,
    The Word was God.
    The Spirit of God is God
    The Spirit of Christ is of the Spirit of God

    #279427
     mikeboll64 
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 19 2012,11:28)
    Hi,
    The Spirit of truth PROCEEDS from the Father
    Jn15.26
    Jesus Christ proceeded forth and came from God
    Jn8 42

    The Word was with God and was God… and the CHRIST spoke for God


    Who is this spirit that will bring glory TO Christ? Who is this spirit that will take of what belongs TO Christ?

    #279428
     mikeboll64 
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 19 2012,11:44)
    Hi T,
    Don't stumble.
    Follow the light.


    Yes Pierre,

    Follow the light of scripture instead of the darkness of Nick. :)

    #279438
     NickHassan 
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    Hi MB,
    Does the Spirit of Christ not remind you of his teachings?

    Do I walk in darkness?

    #279444
     mikeboll64 
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    There are questions awaiting your response, Nick.

    #279451
     NickHassan 
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    And you MB

    #279497
     mikeboll64 
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    Nick,

    In John 16, Jesus speaks of a “him” that he will send when he gets to heaven.

    Jesus says this “him” will bring glory to him.  He says this “him” will take of what is his.

    This is the same “him” that will speak only what he hears, and will speak for the disciples in front of the courts and governors.

    I've always assumed this “him” to be the Holy Spirit of God.  (In fact, I think it is spelled out that way in a scripture or two.)

    Do you think Jesus is referring to himself, and calling himself “him”? Do you think that Jesus is saying when he gets to heaven, he will re-send HIMSELF?

    #279500
     NickHassan 
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    Hi MB,
    God has funny ways of saying things and it confuses some.

    #279501
     NickHassan 
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    Hi MB,
    Would you have been equally confused if he promised to send his Spirit?
    Would you like the comforter, the Spirit of truth etc removed as well?
    No the words are designed to make some see and some stumble.

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