JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

[Ed J]

Quote (carmel @ Feb. 04 2013,07:10)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2013,01:31) Quote (carmel @ Feb. 03 2013,01:11) Edj, IS THAT A 50% HUMAN IN THE SAME SUBSTANCE LIKE OURS, AND A 50% GOD'S SUSBSTANCE? Peace and love in Jesus Charles Hi Charles, That is what the Scripture is telling us about Jesus lineage:                     Mary         HolySpirit                      50%           50%                          \              /                            \          /                              Jesus                             /        \                           /            \                                 /                \               Son of Man     Son of God              (Mark 6:3)        (Luke 1:35) “Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36) “Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31) “Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35) God bless Ed J Quote That is what the Scripture is telling us about Jesus lineage: Edj, which scripture?

Hi Charles,

Why do people seem to always ask questions that are already
answered in the very post to which they are addressing?
The Scripture that is listed in the post you quote.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2013,19:21)

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 01 2013,19:00) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2013,13:06) Quote (jammin @ Jan. 31 2013,19:41) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2013,17:33) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2013,07:56) Hi Jammin, How do you define the term “Son” – in Jesus' relation to God?     <– please answer God bless Ed J   Jammin? have you finished your own version? Hi Jammin, Will you please answer my question? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org this is my answer how do you define the term son in ed's relation to his father? The same

can you pls explain your answer.
what is that the same?

[GeneBalthrop]

ED J……….Where do you get this 50% thing at brother. Flesh and Sprit are not the Same thing nor are they split one to another. I Just can't figure how you derive at that conclusion. I understand a Living Soul is a Human being composed of Spirit and Flesh I have no problem with that. But this 50/50 thing i simply can not understand Brother.

peace and love to you and yours………………………………………………gene

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 04 2013,12:35)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2013,19:21) Quote (jammin @ Feb. 01 2013,19:00) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2013,13:06) Quote (jammin @ Jan. 31 2013,19:41) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2013,17:33) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2013,07:56) Hi Jammin, How do you define the term “Son” – in Jesus' relation to God?     <– please answer God bless Ed J   Jammin? have you finished your own version? Hi Jammin, Will you please answer my question? God bless Ed J this is my answer how do you define the term son in ed's relation to his father? The same can you pls explain your answer. what is that the same?

Hi Jammin,

Jesus gave us the example of a father son relationship because we know what that is.
If you think Jesus' relationship to God is somehow different, please share your view with us; OK?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 05 2013,01:46)

ED J……….Where do you get this 50% thing at brother. Flesh and Sprit are not the Same thing nor are they split one to another. I Just can't figure how you derive at that conclusion. I understand a Living Soul is a Human being composed of Spirit and Flesh I have no problem with that. But this 50/50 thing i simply can not understand Brother. peace and love to you and yours………………………………………………gene

Hi Gene,

If a child's parents are 1)Mother Irish and 2)Father French.
The child is 50% Irish and 50% French. Do you understand now?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[carmel]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2013,12:24)

[/quote] Ed wrote:

 

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Why do people seem to always ask questions that are already answered in the very post to which they are addressing?

Edj,

Why do people seem to always ask questions that are already
answered in the very post to which they are addressing?

What I meant is not your own BIBLE!

BUT THAT PARTICULAR BIBLE WHICH DEFINE THAT THE WORD, JESUS, IS 50 /50 MAN GOD RESPECTIVELY, WHEN I ONLY READ :

Colossians 2:9For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

HOW CAN THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD DWELL IN SOMETHING CORRUPTED 50/50 AND NOT

FULLY ALSO IN A FLESH SUBSTANCE OF GOD'S OWN SPIRIT HIMSELF, TRANSFORMED IN A UNIQUE PURE 100% FLESH???

CAN'T YOU SEE THAT IT IS MADNESS???

CAN'T YOU SEE THAT YOU ARE CONCLUDING THAT GOD NEEDED SATAN'S FILTHY EARTHLY SUBSTANCE IN ORDER TO BECOME MAN???

I WONDER WHAT ADVANTAGE WOULD HAVE TAKEN SATAN IF HE  HAD TO HAVE A SPECK OF HIS FILTHY SUBSTANCE IN THE BODY OF THE GODHEAD, AND  WHO CARRIED THE FATHER’S SPIRIT WITHIN?

WHEN JESUS CONFIRMED THAT:

SATAN HAS NOTHING IN HIM???

WHEN WILL YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT JESUS, THE WORD, DECLARED THAT :

HE ENTIRELYCAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN, AND ALSO EMPHASIZED IT BY SAYING THAT HE IS NOT OF THE WORLD???

CAN HE DECLARE SUCH STATEMENT,AND IN THE SAME TIME 50%  OF HIS BODY WAS COMPOSED FROM EARTHLY FILTHY SUBSTANCE???

NOW READ THIS SCRIPTURE AND ANSWER WHETHER JESUS HAD A 50/50 CORRUPTED BODY???

And all they in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath, 29And rose up, and thrust him out of the city, and led him unto the brow of the hill whereon their city was built, that they might cast him down headlong.

30But he passing through the midst of them went his way,

WHAT DO YOU THINK THE BODY OF JESUS WAS COMPOSED OF, SINCE THE JEWS TOOK HIM ALL THE WAY TO THROW HIM OVER , BUT INSTEAD :

HE SIMPLY WALKED AWAY THROUGH THEIR MIDST, AND IT SEEMED THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN,THEY  NEVER HAD A GRIP ON HIS BODY?

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[Ed J]

Hi Charles,

When Jesus said: SATAN HAS NOTHING IN HIM, Jesus was
referring to Satan having nothing in Jesus' resurrected Body.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi Charles,

Do you not believe that Mary was Jesus' biological mother?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[carmel]

Ed wrote:

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If a child's parents are 1)Mother Irish and 2)Father French. The child is 50% Irish and 50% French. Do you understand now

Edj,

That's what wrong with you,

YOU DON'T EVEN RESPECT THE SON OF GOD, THE WORD, GOD IN FLSH,ACCORDING TO HIS STATUS!

How can what apply to filthy evil humans,could also apply to a divine person.

If as you said, and we all agree,Jesus' Father was God through the Holy Spirit,and his mother's lineage was definitely holy throughout by the work of the Holy Spirit,and finally the son's spirit was used to create the immaculate flesh of Mary, would that still be 50/ 50  for you?

considering the fact that not even his mother was of the world!!!

Read and reflect:

John 6 I have manifested thy name to the men whom thou hast given me out of the world. Thine they were, and to me thou gavest them; and they have kept thy word.

17:16 They are not of the world, as I also am not of the world.

As you can read , not even his appostles WERE OF THE WORLD.

TWICE HE STATED THAT THEY WERE NOT OF THE WORLD,HE EVEN COMPARED THEM TO HIMSELF TO MAKE US AWARE THAT THEY WERE SENT PURPOSELY FROM HEAVEN

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[carmel]

Ed wrote:

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When Jesus said: SATAN HAS NOTHING IN HIM, Jesus was referring to Satan having nothing in Jesus' resurrected Body.

Edj,

Jesus was not yet resurreted.

that's your invention!!!

Jesus as I stated confirmed that:

HE CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN!

SO HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS WORLD.

HE ALSO CONFIRMED IT IN:

JOHN 17:14 I have given them thy word, and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world; as I also am not of the world. 15 I pray not that thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that thou shouldst keep them from evil. 16 They are not of the world, as I also am not of the world.

TWICE HE STATED THAT HE WAS NOT OF THE WORLD, AS ALSO WERE HIS APPOSTLES.

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[mikeboll64]

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 30 2013,19:26)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 30 2013,11:54) Answer the question, jammin. your question is incomplete. you should say the God who created all things thru Christ

Okay jammin, I can live with that. Here is the scripture again:

Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.

And here is the question – reworded per your request:

jammin, is the God mentioned above the Almighty God who created all things through His holy servant Jesus Christ? YES or NO?

It is plain to see that Jesus was NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob…………. but instead a servant of their God.

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,01:52)

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 04 2013,12:35) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2013,19:21) Quote (jammin @ Feb. 01 2013,19:00) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2013,13:06) Quote (jammin @ Jan. 31 2013,19:41) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2013,17:33) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2013,07:56) Hi Jammin, How do you define the term “Son” – in Jesus' relation to God?     <– please answer God bless Ed J   Jammin? have you finished your own version? Hi Jammin, Will you please answer my question? God bless Ed J this is my answer how do you define the term son in ed's relation to his father? The same can you pls explain your answer. what is that the same? Hi Jammin, Jesus gave us the example of a father son relationship because we know what that is. If you think Jesus' relationship to God is somehow different, please share your view with us; OK? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

ill repeat

how do you define the term son in ed's relation to his father?

pls explain

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2013,09:21)

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 30 2013,19:26) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 30 2013,11:54) Answer the question, jammin. your question is incomplete. you should say the God who created all things thru Christ Okay jammin, I can live with that.  Here is the scripture again: Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. And here is the question – reworded per your request: jammin, is the God mentioned above the Almighty God who created all things through His holy servant Jesus Christ?  YES or NO? It is plain to see that Jesus was NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob…………. but instead a servant of their God.

you are adding words to the verse mike

did the verse say that Christ was NOT the God of abraham, jacob etc??
or did it say the God of abraham,jacob,the God if our fathers etc

choose your answer boy.

btw to answer your question, yes. the verse refers to the father. we know that the father is God but as i have said the son is also God just like his father

john 1.1
phil 2.6
john 20.28

1tim 3.16

and many more

ill repeat my question

did the verse say that Christ was NOT the God of abraham, jacob etc??
or did it say the God of abraham,jacob,the God if our fathers etc

and here is my prev question
where can you read in 1 tim 3.16 that God works in mysterious way?

LOL

do not add words to the verse mike. just a friendly reminder.

[terraricca]

Jimm

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btw to answer your question, yes. the verse refers to the father. we know that the father is God but as i have said the son is also God just like his father

your story about the father and the son being the same God ,this can not be IF IT WAS THEN THEIR EITHER WOULD NOT BE A SON OR A FATHER ,THE TRUTH IS THAT THEIR IS A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE TWO GODS ,ONE HIS SERVING THE OTHER, NOW IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THEN WHY ARE YOU EVEN SPEND TIME TO READ THE SCRIPTURES IF YOU DO NOT GOING TO BELIEVE WHAT HIS WRITTEN IN IT ,

SO DO YOU AGREE THAT THEIR HIS ONLY ONE ALMIGHTY AND SUPREME GOD ,THAT HAS A SON CALLED JESUS CHRIST

YOUR ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION WILL BRING A END TO THAT SLOPPY TALK TO NO WERE ,SO WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER

[mikeboll64]

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 04 2013,17:03)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2013,09:21) Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. jammin, is the God mentioned above the Almighty God who created all things through His holy servant Jesus Christ?  YES or NO? you are adding words to the verse mike did the verse say that Christ was NOT the God of abraham, jacob etc?? or did it say the God of abraham,jacob,the God if our fathers etc

Actually it lists Jesus as the servant OF the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Common sense would tell any thinking person that the servant OF the God of Abraham can't also BE the God of Abraham.

But, since common sense isn't all that common among Trinitarians, I will walk you through it, okay?

Let's say you're right, and the God of Abraham is the Father and the Son.  Who then, is Jesus the servant of?  Himself?  

Oh, but what you really want it to say is that Jesus is the servant of the Father part of the God of Abraham, right?

But is that what it says, jammin?  Can you read that in the scripture?

So who, according to the scripture above, is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? And who is the servant OF that God?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2013,17:57)

SO DO YOU AGREE THAT THEIR HIS ONLY ONE ALMIGHTY AND SUPREME GOD ,THAT HAS A SON CALLED JESUS CHRIST ?

Well jammin?

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2013,11:07)

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 04 2013,17:03) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2013,09:21) Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. jammin, is the God mentioned above the Almighty God who created all things through His holy servant Jesus Christ?  YES or NO? you are adding words to the verse mike did the verse say that Christ was NOT the God of abraham, jacob etc?? or did it say the God of abraham,jacob,the God if our fathers etc Actually it lists Jesus as the servant OF the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Common sense would tell any thinking person that the servant OF the God of Abraham can't also BE the God of Abraham. But, since common sense isn't all that common among Trinitarians, I will walk you through it, okay? Let's say you're right, and the God of Abraham is the Father and the Son.  Who then, is Jesus the servant of?  Himself?   Oh, but what you really want it to say is that Jesus is the servant of the Father part of the God of Abraham, right? But is that what it says, jammin?  Can you read that in the scripture? So who, according to the scripture above, is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob?  And who is the servant OF that God?

that is not the only verse of the bible boy.
but thanks for admitting that the verse does not say that Christ was not the God of abraham etc.

i already answered your question . the verse talks about the father.

now answer mine
and here is my prev question
where can you read in 1 tim 3.16 that God works in mysterious way?

LOL

do not add words to the verse mike. just a friendly reminder.

[jammin]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2013,10:57)

Jimm Quote btw to answer your question, yes. the verse refers to the father. we know that the father is God but as i have said the son is also God just like his father your story about the father and the son being the same God ,this can not be IF IT WAS THEN THEIR EITHER WOULD NOT BE A SON OR A FATHER ,THE TRUTH IS THAT THEIR IS A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE TWO GODS

i thought you do not believe christ is God./ but now you are saying he is God?

take vitamins boy

[terraricca]

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 06 2013,10:00)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2013,10:57) Jimm Quote btw to answer your question, yes. the verse refers to the father. we know that the father is God but as i have said the son is also God just like his father your story about the father and the son being the same God ,this can not be IF IT WAS THEN THEIR EITHER WOULD NOT BE A SON OR A FATHER ,THE TRUTH IS THAT THEIR IS A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE TWO GODS i thought you do not believe christ is God./ but now you are saying he is God? take vitamins boy

Jimm

I do not say that Christ his God almighty ,but he his a god

he his after all the son of God the almighty,what his your problem

being a god for GOD almighty means that you are a spokesperson for him or in other words HIS REPRESENTATIVE ,

THIS IS WHY MOSES WAS MADE A GOD TO HIS BROTHER AND PHARAOH OF EGYPT '

P;S ; please read my comment back and see that you have interpreted my words wrong ,

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 05 2013,07:33)

Hi Charles, Do you not believe that Mary was Jesus' biological mother? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Charles?

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