JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

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    GeneBalthrop
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    Wakeup…….I am Glad you see Jesus is not a God but indeed has the Spirit (and therefore the nature of God the Father) That is accurate i believe and we also can have that same Nature in us also It is the seed of God mentioned by John, 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin because His seed remains “IN” him : and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. V 10….> In this the childern of God are manifest, and the childern of the devil; whosoever does not rightiousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

    peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene

    #329981
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 26 2013,02:13)
    Wakeup…….I am Glad you see Jesus is not a God but indeed has the Spirit (and therefore the nature of God the Father) That is accurate i believe and we also can have that same Nature in us also It is the seed of God mentioned by John, 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin because His seed remains “IN” him : and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. V 10….> In this the childern of God are manifest, and the childern of the devil; whosoever does not rightiousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

    peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene


    Gene B.

    I agree with that.
    If we have the spirit of God we dont likely sin.
    But non of us are perfect,only one is.
    He is the seed that came down from heaven.

    I have sinned in the past even after I have learned the scriptures. Maybe even now,in my heart; the eyes we need to control.Thanks to Jesus who will blot out our sins.

    wakeup.

    #329995
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 25 2013,12:00)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 25 2013,12:12)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 25 2013,06:22)

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    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 24 2013,14:49)
    Jammin,

    Philippians 2:6 does not state that Jesus exists as the same kind as Yawheh.  That teaching is a deception of the evil one who uses the multiple meanings of words to ensnare the corrupt and those who do not understand.

    Instead Jesus, exists in nature of the Spirit, and so does not seek to rob Yawheh but makes himself nothing taking on the nature of a servant.

    Those that believe are to be the same.


    what you are saying is an illusion. it only exists in your imagination kerwin.

    i read to you a word for word in the bible and yet you do not believe it. you just want to believe doctrines from men.
    you cant even read your imagination. you know what, if you are in the court you must back up or support your statements.

    i say what is written in the bible. it is up to you if you do not want the word of God.


    Jammin,

    You might want to think about your words before responding next time.  As it is you deny Jesus manifests the fruit of the Spirit, a fruit that does not seek to make itself equal with Yawheh; but instead empties itself and manifests the fruit of a servant.  I have my doubts that was your intention.  I instead believe you were responding emotionally, and so giving a “nay” to my rejection of your preferred teaching.  Emotion serves its purpose but God gave us reason to supervise and the Spirit to inspire them both.


    give me version pls. i do not like stories boy

    you said:exists in nature of the Spirit

    where can you read that in phil 2.6?i bet that is only in your  imagination


    Jammin,

    It is a paraphrase of Philippians 2:6 using the teaching of Galatians 5:16-26.


    can you give me a version or not?

    i told you i d not accept stories


    Jammin,

    I do not know if the version even cares but the dualistic nature of a believer is taught in Galatians 5:16-26. Jesus is the chief believer through and by whom all other believers receive and live by the Spirit nature.

    Does Jesus live by the flesh nature of man or the Spirit nature of God?

    I believe Jesus lives by the Spirit nature of God, though he was tempted by the flesh nature of man.

    Since he lives by it he exist in it and the fruit of that is that he does not seek to rob God but instead empties himself and takes on the nature of a servant.

    Many of the more reliable translations of Philippians 2:6-7 say the same thing, if the reader but understands them.

    #329999
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 26 2013,02:13)
    Wakeup…….I am Glad you see Jesus is not a God but indeed has the Spirit (and therefore the nature of God the Father) That is accurate i believe and we also can have that same Nature in us also It is the seed of God mentioned by John, 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin because His seed remains “IN” him : and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. V 10….> In this the childern of God are manifest, and the childern of the devil; whosoever does not rightiousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

    peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene


    Hi Gene, Good post! You too Wakeup.

    “Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises:
     that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having
     escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.”    (2 Peter 1:4)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #330000
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 26 2013,06:30)
    Jammin,

    I do not know if the version even cares but the dualistic nature of a believer is taught in Galatians 5:16-26.  Jesus is the chief believer through and by whom all other believers receive and live by the Spirit nature.

    Does Jesus live by the flesh nature of man or the Spirit nature of God?

    I believe Jesus lives by the Spirit nature of God, though he was tempted by the flesh nature of man.

    Since he lives by it he exist in it and the fruit of that is that he does not seek to rob God but instead empties himself and takes on the nature of a servant.

    Many of the more reliable translations of Philippians 2:6-7 say the same thing, if the reader but understands them.


    Hi Kerwin,

    Us also doing the mighty works in behalf of God (John 14:12)
    is the result of this divine nature implanted in us (Born Again).

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #330001
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2013,04:08)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 26 2013,02:13)
    Wakeup…….I am Glad you see Jesus is not a God but indeed has the Spirit (and therefore the nature of God the Father) That is accurate i believe and we also can have that same Nature in us also It is the seed of God mentioned by John, 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin because His seed remains “IN” him : and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. V 10….> In this the childern of God are manifest, and the childern of the devil; whosoever does not rightiousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

    peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene


    Gene B.

    I agree with that.
    If we have the spirit of God we dont likely sin.
    But non of us are perfect,only one is.
    He is the seed that came down from heaven.

    I have sinned in the past even after I have learned the scriptures. Maybe even now,in my heart; the eyes we need to control.Thanks to Jesus who will blot out our sins.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup, Gene is right!

    Stop making excuses for yourself, it is indeed possible to live sin-free.
    “If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.” (John 8:36)
    “Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” (2Tm.3:5)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #330003
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 26 2013,07:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2013,04:08)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 26 2013,02:13)
    Wakeup…….I am Glad you see Jesus is not a God but indeed has the Spirit (and therefore the nature of God the Father) That is accurate i believe and we also can have that same Nature in us also It is the seed of God mentioned by John, 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin because His seed remains “IN” him : and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. V 10….> In this the childern of God are manifest, and the childern of the devil; whosoever does not rightiousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

    peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene


    Gene B.

    I agree with that.
    If we have the spirit of God we dont likely sin.
    But non of us are perfect,only one is.
    He is the seed that came down from heaven.

    I have sinned in the past even after I have learned the scriptures. Maybe even now,in my heart; the eyes we need to control.Thanks to Jesus who will blot out our sins.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup, Gene is right!

    Stop making excuses for yourself, it is indeed possible to live sin-free.
    “If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.” (John 8:36)
    “Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” (2Tm.3:5)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    “Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
      Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. And the servant
      abideth not in the house for ever:
     but the Son abideth ever.” (John 8:34-35)

    #330007
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 26 2013,07:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2013,04:08)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 26 2013,02:13)
    Wakeup…….I am Glad you see Jesus is not a God but indeed has the Spirit (and therefore the nature of God the Father) That is accurate i believe and we also can have that same Nature in us also It is the seed of God mentioned by John, 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin because His seed remains “IN” him : and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. V 10….> In this the childern of God are manifest, and the childern of the devil; whosoever does not rightiousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

    peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene


    Gene B.

    I agree with that.
    If we have the spirit of God we dont likely sin.
    But non of us are perfect,only one is.
    He is the seed that came down from heaven.

    I have sinned in the past even after I have learned the scriptures. Maybe even now,in my heart; the eyes we need to control.Thanks to Jesus who will blot out our sins.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup, Gene is right!

    Stop making excuses for yourself, it is indeed possible to live sin-free.
    “If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.” (John 8:36)
    “Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” (2Tm.3:5)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj.

    1 John 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

    wakeup.

    #330008
    carmel
    Participant

    Wakeup,Jan. wrote:

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    That does not make his Son the great king himself.  

    Wakeup,

    THESE WILL CONFUSE YOU!

    HEBREWS 1:8 But to the SON: THY THRONE , O GOD, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of justice is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

    WHO IS THIS GOD?

    WHO OWNS THIS KINGDOM?  WITHOUT BEING A KING?

    WHO OWNS THIS THRONE?    WITHOUT BEING A KING?

    WHO OWNS A SCEPTER OF JUSTICE? WITHOUT BEING A KING?

    WHO IS THIS KING WHOES THRONE IS FOR EVER AND EVER? WITHOUT BEING A KING?

    NOW TO THIS ONE:

    HEBREWS 1:9 Thou hast loved justice, and hated iniquity: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

    EXPLAIN :

    THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAD ANOINTED YOU …………

    WHOM GOD CALLED GOD?

    HOW ABOUT THS ONE:

    HEBREWS 1:10 And: Thou in the beginning, O Lord, didst found the earth: and the works of thy hands are the heavens.

    WHO IS THIS LORD WHO IN THE BEGINNING FOUND THE EARTH, AND THE WORKS OF HIS HANDS ARE THE HEAVENS?

    NOW THIS TO DISCOVER WHO SERVES WHO:

    Hebrews 1:13But to which of the angels said he at any time: Sit on my right hand, until I make thy enemies thy footstool?

    Sit on my right hand, until

    I MAKE YOUR ENEMIES YOUR FOOTSTOOL!

    WHO IS THE SERVANT NOW, AND WHO IS BEING SERVED?

    WHY THEY ARE THE SON'S ENEMIES, AND NOT THE FATHER'S?

    WHY THE FATHER DIDN'T SAY MY ENEMIES? OR OUR ENEMIES ?

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #330016
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2013,07:48)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 26 2013,07:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2013,04:08)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 26 2013,02:13)
    Wakeup…….I am Glad you see Jesus is not a God but indeed has the Spirit (and therefore the nature of God the Father) That is accurate i believe and we also can have that same Nature in us also It is the seed of God mentioned by John, 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin because His seed remains “IN” him : and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. V 10….> In this the childern of God are manifest, and the childern of the devil; whosoever does not rightiousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

    peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene


    Gene B.

    I agree with that.
    If we have the spirit of God we dont likely sin.
    But non of us are perfect,only one is.
    He is the seed that came down from heaven.

    I have sinned in the past even after I have learned the scriptures. Maybe even now,in my heart; the eyes we need to control.Thanks to Jesus who will blot out our sins.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup, Gene is right!

    Stop making excuses for yourself, it is indeed possible to live sin-free.
    “If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.” (John 8:36)
    “Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” (2Tm.3:5)

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDj.

     1 John 1:10   If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    We all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God,
    but that is no excuse for you to continue therein in sinning.

    Don't let Satan deceive you…

    “For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth,
     there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for
     of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.”      (Heb 10:26-27)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #330056
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2013,00:34)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 25 2013,16:58)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 25 2013,16:49)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 25 2013,11:22)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 25 2013,00:05)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 24 2013,14:41)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 24 2013,14:49)
    Jammin,

    Philippians 2:6 does not state that Jesus exists as the same kind as Yawheh.  That teaching is a deception of the evil one who uses the multiple meanings of words to ensnare the corrupt and those who do not understand.

    Instead Jesus, exists in nature of the Spirit, and so does not seek to rob Yawheh but makes himself nothing taking on the nature of a servant.

    Those that believe are to be the same.


    what you are saying is an illusion. it only exists in your imagination kerwin.

    i read to you a word for word in the bible and yet you do not believe it. you just want to believe doctrines from men.
    you cant even read your imagination. you know what, if you are in the court you must back up or support your statements.

    i say what is written in the bible. it is up to you if you do not want the word of God.


    Jammin,

    You might want to think about your words before responding next time.  As it is you deny Jesus manifests the fruit of the Spirit, a fruit that does not seek to make itself equal with Yawheh; but instead empties itself and manifests the fruit of a servant.  I have my doubts that was your intention.  I instead believe you were responding emotionally, and so giving a “nay” to my rejection of your preferred teaching.  Emotion serves its purpose but God gave us reason to supervise and the Spirit to inspire them both.


    give me version pls. i do not like stories boy

    you said:exists in nature of the Spirit

    where can you read that in phil 2.6?i bet that is only in your  imagination


    God the almighty king,has given his Son all authority,and power to operate on his behalf.
    That does not make his Son the great king himself.

    Athough he has the power of the great king,his father. He is employed by the great God,and given all authority.

    The the servant is not greater than he that is served.

    The assistant prime minister is not greater than the priminister,although the priminister has given him all authority to operate oveseas.
    And the assistant is not the priminister.

    wakeup.


    but they have the same nature, God.

    president obama is just like you. you are both HUMAN by nature.


    Jesus is the son of God and therefore,God in nature,but he still works for his God.
    He will never call himself the father,although he has all the powers of the father,but that power is given to him.

    We also will be God like in nature once we are resurrected,but we never will be God.

    Jesus is authorised to use that power. He can do what God can do.
    Is there a saviour beside me? no; there is none. All power cames from the one God.

    wakeup.


    i did not say he is the father.i said he is the SON! he is God just like his father. now you accept that Christ is God by nature.

    if obama if just like you, why cant you accept that Christ is just like his father? they are both God

    by the way you said we will also be God like. do you know the meaning of that verse? do not compare it to christ that verse . you have to study first the verse

    #330057
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 26 2013,06:30)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 25 2013,12:00)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 25 2013,12:12)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 25 2013,06:22)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 25 2013,00:05)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 24 2013,14:41)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 24 2013,14:49)
    Jammin,

    Philippians 2:6 does not state that Jesus exists as the same kind as Yawheh.  That teaching is a deception of the evil one who uses the multiple meanings of words to ensnare the corrupt and those who do not understand.

    Instead Jesus, exists in nature of the Spirit, and so does not seek to rob Yawheh but makes himself nothing taking on the nature of a servant.

    Those that believe are to be the same.


    what you are saying is an illusion. it only exists in your imagination kerwin.

    i read to you a word for word in the bible and yet you do not believe it. you just want to believe doctrines from men.
    you cant even read your imagination. you know what, if you are in the court you must back up or support your statements.

    i say what is written in the bible. it is up to you if you do not want the word of God.


    Jammin,

    You might want to think about your words before responding next time.  As it is you deny Jesus manifests the fruit of the Spirit, a fruit that does not seek to make itself equal with Yawheh; but instead empties itself and manifests the fruit of a servant.  I have my doubts that was your intention.  I instead believe you were responding emotionally, and so giving a “nay” to my rejection of your preferred teaching.  Emotion serves its purpose but God gave us reason to supervise and the Spirit to inspire them both.


    give me version pls. i do not like stories boy

    you said:exists in nature of the Spirit

    where can you read that in phil 2.6?i bet that is only in your  imagination


    Jammin,

    It is a paraphrase of Philippians 2:6 using the teaching of Galatians 5:16-26.


    can you give me a version or not?

    i told you i d not accept stories


    Jammin,

    I do not know if the version even cares but the dualistic nature of a believer is taught in Galatians 5:16-26.  Jesus is the chief believer through and by whom all other believers receive and live by the Spirit nature.

    Does Jesus live by the flesh nature of man or the Spirit nature of God?

    I believe Jesus lives by the Spirit nature of God, though he was tempted by the flesh nature of man.

    Since he lives by it he exist in it and the fruit of that is that he does not seek to rob God but instead empties himself and takes on the nature of a servant.

    Many of the more reliable translations of Philippians 2:6-7 say the same thing, if the reader but understands them.


    therefore it is just your imagination.

    i told you i do not accept stories. can you tell that in the court?
    if you are a lawyer, you must show proof to the court. how can you win the case if you are just making stories boy?

    i show you a word for word in the bible and yet you dont believe that, you just want to believe your imagination

    may God open your eyes

    #330058
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 26 2013,07:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2013,04:08)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 26 2013,02:13)
    Wakeup…….I am Glad you see Jesus is not a God but indeed has the Spirit (and therefore the nature of God the Father) That is accurate i believe and we also can have that same Nature in us also It is the seed of God mentioned by John, 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin because His seed remains “IN” him : and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. V 10….> In this the childern of God are manifest, and the childern of the devil; whosoever does not rightiousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

    peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene


    Gene B.

    I agree with that.
    If we have the spirit of God we dont likely sin.
    But non of us are perfect,only one is.
    He is the seed that came down from heaven.

    I have sinned in the past even after I have learned the scriptures. Maybe even now,in my heart; the eyes we need to control.Thanks to Jesus who will blot out our sins.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup, Gene is right!

    Stop making excuses for yourself, it is indeed possible to live sin-free.
    “If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.” (John 8:36)
    “Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” (2Tm.3:5)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    your trusted version says Christ is God

    1 tim 3.16

    1 Timothy 3:16

    New King James Version (NKJV)

    16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:

    God[a] was manifested in the flesh,
    Justified in the Spirit,
    Seen by angels,
    Preached among the Gentiles,
    Believed on in the world,
    Received up in glory.

    #330070
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 26 2013,06:30)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 26 2013,06:30)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 25 2013,12:00)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 25 2013,12:12)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 25 2013,06:22)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 25 2013,00:05)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 24 2013,14:41)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 24 2013,14:49)
    Jammin,

    Philippians 2:6 does not state that Jesus exists as the same kind as Yawheh.  That teaching is a deception of the evil one who uses the multiple meanings of words to ensnare the corrupt and those who do not understand.

    Instead Jesus, exists in nature of the Spirit, and so does not seek to rob Yawheh but makes himself nothing taking on the nature of a servant.

    Those that believe are to be the same.


    what you are saying is an illusion. it only exists in your imagination kerwin.

    i read to you a word for word in the bible and yet you do not believe it. you just want to believe doctrines from men.
    you cant even read your imagination. you know what, if you are in the court you must back up or support your statements.

    i say what is written in the bible. it is up to you if you do not want the word of God.


    Jammin,

    You might want to think about your words before responding next time.  As it is you deny Jesus manifests the fruit of the Spirit, a fruit that does not seek to make itself equal with Yawheh; but instead empties itself and manifests the fruit of a servant.  I have my doubts that was your intention.  I instead believe you were responding emotionally, and so giving a “nay” to my rejection of your preferred teaching.  Emotion serves its purpose but God gave us reason to supervise and the Spirit to inspire them both.


    give me version pls. i do not like stories boy

    you said:exists in nature of the Spirit

    where can you read that in phil 2.6?i bet that is only in your  imagination


    Jammin,

    It is a paraphrase of Philippians 2:6 using the teaching of Galatians 5:16-26.


    can you give me a version or not?

    i told you i d not accept stories


    Jammin,

    I do not know if the version even cares but the dualistic nature of a believer is taught in Galatians 5:16-26.  Jesus is the chief believer through and by whom all other believers receive and live by the Spirit nature.

    Does Jesus live by the flesh nature of man or the Spirit nature of God?

    I believe Jesus lives by the Spirit nature of God, though he was tempted by the flesh nature of man.

    Since he lives by it he exist in it and the fruit of that is that he does not seek to rob God but instead empties himself and takes on the nature of a servant.

    Many of the more reliable translations of Philippians 2:6-7 say the same thing, if the reader but understands them.


    therefore it is just your imagination.

    i told you i do not accept stories. can you tell that in the court?
    if you are a lawyer, you must show proof to the court. how can you win the case if you are just making stories boy?

    i show you a word for word in the bible and yet you dont believe that, you just want to believe your imagination

    may God open your eyes


    Jammin,

    The evidence is there to see but you choose not to believe it.

    Responding to a person's words by stating you are wrong, or the equivalent, is not discussing reasonably. If you see what you believe is an error in what I write then please tell me what it is and why you believe it is an error.

    #330072
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 24 2013,23:57)

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    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 24 2013,18:20)

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    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 20 2013,04:34)

    he cant be a servant of his own boy.


    And who is he a servant of?  Do you agree that when scripture says Jesus is a servant of “God”, the word “God” is referring to the one and only Almighty God who created all things?  YES or NO?


    it depends on the context.


    Okay, here is the context:

    Acts 3:13
    The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.

    In the above context, is Jesus the servant of the one and only Almighty God, who created all things?


    i have a question for you
    who is the God in tim 3.16?


    There is no “God” mentioned in that scripture, jammin.

    Now please answer MY question.

    #330073
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 25 2013,11:08)
    Maybe even now,in my heart; the eyes we need to control.Thanks to Jesus who will blot out our sins.


    I sin daily. Thanks indeed, to the savior my God sent into the world.

    #330074
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 25 2013,13:30)
    Many of the more reliable translations of Philippians 2:6-7 say the same thing, if the reader but understands them.


    Phil 2:6-7 speaks about how Jesus was existing in the form of his own God, ie: as a spirit being, and then emptied himself and was made in the likeness of a human being.

    #330120
    carmel
    Participant

    Ed wrote:

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    Quote
    Since God is Jesus' father, and Mary
    is Jesus' mother, that would make
    Jesus 50% God and 50% Human.

    Edj

    Are you comfortable enough to discuss THIS MADNESS OF 50 50 CONCEPT.?

    THE FATHER WAS IN HIS FULLNESS IN JESUS NOT 50%,HOW ON EARTH HE COULD HAVE BEATEN THE god OF THE EARTH???

    WHEN JESUS CONFIRMED THAT: ENOUGH FOR THE SERVANT TO BE LIKE HIS MASTER!!!

    Peace and love in Jesus 100% God from 100% Holy Ghost and 100% man  from 100% flesh of Mary!

    Charles

    #330130
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 26 2013,11:31)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 26 2013,07:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2013,04:08)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 26 2013,02:13)
    Wakeup…….I am Glad you see Jesus is not a God but indeed has the Spirit (and therefore the nature of God the Father) That is accurate i believe and we also can have that same Nature in us also It is the seed of God mentioned by John, 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin because His seed remains “IN” him : and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. V 10….> In this the childern of God are manifest, and the childern of the devil; whosoever does not rightiousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

    peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene


    Gene B.

    I agree with that.
    If we have the spirit of God we dont likely sin.
    But non of us are perfect,only one is.
    He is the seed that came down from heaven.

    I have sinned in the past even after I have learned the scriptures. Maybe even now,in my heart; the eyes we need to control.Thanks to Jesus who will blot out our sins.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup, Gene is right!

    Stop making excuses for yourself, it is indeed possible to live sin-free.
    “If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.” (John 8:36)
    “Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” (2Tm.3:5)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    your trusted version says Christ is God

    1 tim 3.16

    1 Timothy 3:16

    New King James Version (NKJV)

    16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:

    God[a] was manifested in the flesh,
    Justified in the Spirit,
    Seen by angels,
    Preached among the Gentiles,
    Believed on in the world,
    Received up in glory.


    Hi Jammin,

    You're reading into the text, “The Bible” doesn't say that.
    The bible instead says that the “HolySpirit” is GOD.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #330132
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Jan. 26 2013,17:43)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2013,13:25)


    Quote
    Since God is Jesus' father, and Mary
    is Jesus' mother, that would make
    Jesus 50% God and 50% Human.

    Edj

    Are you comfortable enough to discuss THIS MADNESS OF 50 50 CONCEPT.?

    THE FATHER WAS IN HIS FULLNESS IN JESUS NOT 50%,HOW ON EARTH HE COULD HAVE BEATEN THE god OF THE EARTH???

    WHEN JESUS CONFIRMED THAT: ENOUGH FOR THE SERVANT TO BE LIKE HIS MASTER!!!

    Peace and love in Jesus 100% God from 100% Holy Ghost and 100% man  from 100% flesh of Mary!

    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    I did NOT say that 50% of God was in Jesus. What I instead said
    was: that 50% of what Jesus was made of (at his birth) was God.  

    This is an important difference between what you are saying about
    what I said and what I actually said. Hope you see the difference now.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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