JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (carmel @ Dec. 18 2012,00:00)

But I would have you know, (SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY)

Charles,

I want you to know that I had fish for dinner last night.

Do the words “I would have you know” truly insist that something “EXTRAORDINARY” is about to be said?

Of course not.

I have YET to see any point you are trying to make. It may be because I rarely get to the bottom of any of your long posts. But then again, I already gave you fair warning that I'm only going to read the first sentence or two – despite how many sentences you write.

Anyway, if you have point to make, then make it already………….(in a sentence or two).

[mikeboll64]

Quote (carmel @ Dec. 18 2012,00:16)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2012,11:43) How many “Christians” all over the world confess TWO, completely seperate Almighty Gods, Kathi? Mike, THE TRUE CHRISTIANS: THOSE WHO BELIEVE THAT THE FATHER IS ALMIGHTY GOD ONLY SPIRIT.

So you believe we have TWO completely seperate Almighty Gods, Charles?

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2012,10:00)

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 17 2012,22:06) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2012,11:43) How many “Christians” all over the world confess TWO, completely seperate Almighty Gods, Kathi? the bible said that. ONE GOD! Why are you telling this to ME, jammin?   I already agree with you that there exists only ONE ALMIGHTY GOD. You need to teach this lesson to Kathi – not to me.

why did you cut my post? LOL

can you complete my post>?

i said one GOD!

the father is God
the son is God
they are both GOD

they have one nature, and that is nature GOD!

do you have two natures??? LOL

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2012,09:56)

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 17 2012,22:04) your logic is non sense. the MAN is the head of the WOMAN, they are both human. God is the head of Christ. they are both God. MY logic is nonsense?   Let's follow YOUR logic for a minute: the MAN is the head of the WOMAN, they are both human. God is the head of Christ. they are both God. If we are to follow YOUR logic all the way through, then the following must also be true: Christ is the head of man – they are both Christ.  And since Christ is God, then man is also God. Is that what you believe, jammin?  That man is God? Hmmmm……………….

no. you did not get my point. your brain has no nutrition mike LOL

your argument said that if God is the head of christ it means that Christ is not God.
what i mean is it does not mean that if God is the head of Christ , he is not God.

same with human. Christ is the head of man but it does not mean that the man is Christ himself. it does not follow that way.

the verse did not say that Christ is not God.
that is just your imagination boy. LOL

the bible said he is GOD
phil 2.6 and that is a word for word in the bible boy
sorry but you need to go back to school LOL

[terraricca]

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 19 2012,10:01)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2012,09:56) Quote (jammin @ Dec. 17 2012,22:04) your logic is non sense. the MAN is the head of the WOMAN, they are both human. God is the head of Christ. they are both God. MY logic is nonsense?   Let's follow YOUR logic for a minute: the MAN is the head of the WOMAN, they are both human. God is the head of Christ. they are both God. If we are to follow YOUR logic all the way through, then the following must also be true: Christ is the head of man – they are both Christ.  And since Christ is God, then man is also God. Is that what you believe, jammin?  That man is God? Hmmmm………………. no. you did not get my point. your brain has no nutrition mike LOL your argument said that if God is the head of christ it means that Christ is not God. what i mean is it does not mean that if God is the head of Christ , he is not God. same with human. Christ is the head of man but it does not mean that the man is Christ himself. it does not follow that way. the verse did not say that Christ is not God. that is just your imagination boy. LOL the bible said he is GOD phil 2.6 and that is a word for word in the bible boy sorry but you need to go back to school LOL

jammin

you must be only 16 years old, in your comment you can not even see what you are saying ,understanding is at best weak to be positive

[Lightenup]

Two or three or four or thousands can be one in the corporate sense. That doesn't make them a corporation. Corporate has more than one meaning.

cor·po·rate
[kawr-per-it, -prit] Show IPA
adjective
1.
of, for, or belonging to a corporation or corporations: a corporate executive; She considers the new federal subsidy just corporate welfare.
2.
forming a corporation.
3.
pertaining to a united group, as of persons: the corporate good.
4.
united or combined into one.
5.
corporative.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 18 2012,21:58)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2012,10:00) Quote (jammin @ Dec. 17 2012,22:06) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2012,11:43) How many “Christians” all over the world confess TWO, completely seperate Almighty Gods, Kathi? the bible said that. ONE GOD! Why are you telling this to ME, jammin?   I already agree with you that there exists only ONE ALMIGHTY GOD. You need to teach this lesson to Kathi – not to me. why did you cut my post? LOL can you complete my post>? i said one GOD! the father is God the son is God they are both GOD

Oh……….. you were SERIOUS with the other stuff you wrote? I thought that maybe the drugs had begun to take effect, and caused you to start writing jibberish half way through your post!

jammin, you can't LOGICALLY say, “ONE GOD”, and then add the words “they are BOTH God”.

The English word “both” will NEVER, EVER signifiy just ONE thing. That's why I thought maybe something happened to your brain in the middle of your post. I thought I was doing you a favor by editing the nonsense part out of it.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 18 2012,22:01)

it does not mean that if God is the head of Christ , he is not God.

Actually, it does, jammin.  If the ONE BEING we all know as “God” is the head of Christ, then Christ surely can't BE the very God that is the head of him.

I realize you WANT it to say that “the FATHER PART OF God” is the head of Christ.  But that's NOT what Paul wrote though, is it?

Also, if the fact that God is the head of Christ doesn't prohibit Christ from being the very God who is the head of him…………

THEN……………

the fact that Christ is the head of man doesn't prohibit man from being the very Christ that is the head of him.

jammin, why is it that you can easily see the nonsense in the red letters, but are oblivious to the same nonsense when it comes to the blue letters?  

This particular discussion is over, because you have ceased to make any sense, let alone a valid point.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 18 2012,23:04)

Two or three or four or thousands can be one in the corporate sense. That doesn't make them a corporation. Corporate has more than one meaning. cor·po·rate [kawr-per-it, -prit] Show IPA adjective 1. of, for, or belonging to a corporation or corporations: a corporate executive; She considers the new federal subsidy just corporate welfare. 2. forming a corporation. 3. pertaining to a united group, as of persons: the corporate good. 4. united or combined into one. 5. corporative.

So Kathi,

Do your TWO Almighty Gods unite/combine into ONE being? Or do they remain TWO, completely separate Almighty Gods who rule as a team?

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 20 2012,13:11)

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 18 2012,22:01) it does not mean that if God is the head of Christ , he is not God. Actually, it does, jammin.  If the ONE BEING we all know as “God” is the head of Christ, then Christ surely can't BE the very God that is the head of him. I realize you WANT it to say that “the FATHER PART OF God” is the head of Christ.  But that's NOT what Paul wrote though, is it? Also, if the fact that God is the head of Christ doesn't prohibit Christ from being the very God who is the head of him………… THEN…………… the fact that Christ is the head of man doesn't prohibit man from being the very Christ that is the head of him. jammin, why is it that you can easily see the nonsense in the red letters, but are oblivious to the same nonsense when it comes to the blue letters?   This particular discussion is over, because you have ceased to make any sense, let alone a valid point.

then give the version that says Christ is not God.
'do not explain mike. i need verse,. im tired of your stories. cant you give me a single verse?
i know you are a false teacher but dont be so obvious LOL

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 20 2012,13:13)

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 18 2012,23:04) Two or three or four or thousands can be one in the corporate sense. That doesn't make them a corporation. Corporate has more than one meaning. cor·po·rate [kawr-per-it, -prit] Show IPA adjective 1. of, for, or belonging to a corporation or corporations: a corporate executive; She considers the new federal subsidy just corporate welfare. 2. forming a corporation. 3. pertaining to a united group, as of persons: the corporate good. 4. united or combined into one. 5. corporative. So Kathi, Do your TWO Almighty Gods unite/combine into ONE being?  Or do they remain TWO, completely separate Almighty Gods who rule as a team?

they have the same nature, God

just like you and your father. your father is HUMAN, you are also HUMAN mike. you are not an animal.
but you can act like an animal mike

[jammin]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2012,15:22)

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 19 2012,10:01) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2012,09:56) Quote (jammin @ Dec. 17 2012,22:04) your logic is non sense. the MAN is the head of the WOMAN, they are both human. God is the head of Christ. they are both God. MY logic is nonsense?   Let's follow YOUR logic for a minute: the MAN is the head of the WOMAN, they are both human. God is the head of Christ. they are both God. If we are to follow YOUR logic all the way through, then the following must also be true: Christ is the head of man – they are both Christ.  And since Christ is God, then man is also God. Is that what you believe, jammin?  That man is God? Hmmmm………………. no. you did not get my point. your brain has no nutrition mike LOL your argument said that if God is the head of christ it means that Christ is not God. what i mean is it does not mean that if God is the head of Christ , he is not God. same with human. Christ is the head of man but it does not mean that the man is Christ himself. it does not follow that way. the verse did not say that Christ is not God. that is just your imagination boy. LOL the bible said he is GOD phil 2.6 and that is a word for word in the bible boy sorry but you need to go back to school LOL jammin you must be only 16 years old, in your comment you can not even see what you are saying ,understanding is at best weak to be positive

do not comment t

your words are non sense. i need verse.
what you are saying is just stories.

[carmel]

Mike,

This is my statement:

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NOW REFLECT ON THIS STATEMENT FROM PAUL! 1Corinthians 11: 3 But I would have you know, Paul definitely wanted to reveal something extraordinary with the above address to his listeners!

AND,

These are your own words:

Yep.  And he did.  He revealed that man is the head of woman.

Now, what did Paul reveal by that statement???

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[mikeboll64]

That man has a higher ranking than woman. Man is “the boss” of woman.

Haven't we already been through this, Charles?

[carmel]

mikeboll64,Dec. wrote:

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That man has a higher ranking than woman.  Man is “the boss” of woman.

Mike,

Why do you call that a revelation???

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Haven't we already been through this, Charles?

YOU ARE GETTING NERVOUS EVEN WHEN I AM WRITING JUST ONE QUESTION!!!

AS YOU SUGGESTED!!!

I WANT TO PROVE TO YOU HOW A CHILD YOU STILL ARE IN THIS MATTER AND YOU ONLY CAPABLE TO EAT MILK

NOT MEAT

GO TO THE HOT SEAT WITH THESE VERSES !!!

WOULD YOU???

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[carmel]

mikeboll64,Dec. wrote:

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Do your TWO Almighty Gods unite/combine into ONE being?  Or do they remain TWO, completely separate Almighty Gods who rule as a team?

Mike,

You simply do not accept scriptures!!!

13 But to which of the angels said he at any time: Sit on my right hand, until I make thy enemies thy footstool?

SO AS YOU CAN READ, THERE ARE TWO THRONES NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

ONE FOR THE FATHER, SPIRIT, STILL INVISIBLE NOT TO BE SEEN BY ANYONE EXCEPT THE SON!!!

ONE FOR THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST!!!

TO BE SEEN BY ALL THE ENTIRE SPIRITUAL CREATURES!!!

AND ALSO TO ALL CARNAL CREATURES WHOM THE SON IS PLEASED TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO!!!

LIKE HE DID TO STEPHEN WHEN HE WAS BEING STONED!!!

SO THE ENEMIES OF GOD WOULD ADMIT THAT THE FATHER WHO IS STILL INVISIBLE, AND A MYSTERY FOR THEM,IS FROM THEN ON:

THE ONLY ONE SPIRIT BEING WHO IS BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH.

GLORIFIED IN JESUS CHRIST!!!

TO CONCLUDE:

THE FATHER AS A SPIRIT, IS SERVING THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST BY MAKING JESUS' ENEMIES,

NOT THE FATHER'S,SINCE HE IS STILL INVISIBLE AND A MESTERY,

JESUS' FOOTSTOOL, NOT THE FATHER'S ,SINCE THE SON IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST!!!

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[mikeboll64]

Quote (carmel @ Dec. 21 2012,23:41)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2012,09:33) That man has a higher ranking than woman.  Man is “the boss” of woman.   Mike, Why do you call that a revelation???

Who called it a “revelation”?  

I believe it was YOU who thinks this – not me.

Remember this:

Charles, I would have you know that we have never had a female President in the U.S.A.

Now, because I used the words, “I would have you know”, does it mean the next thing out of my mouth MUST BE some “revelation from God”?  

You are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill – and all the while AVOIDING the very teaching from Paul that you are making into that mountain.  Don't forget that the teaching is:  God is the head of Christ. Therefore, “God” and “Christ” are TWO SEPARATE BEINGS, one of whom is the “boss of” the other.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (carmel @ Dec. 21 2012,23:41)

GO TO THE HOT SEAT WITH THESE VERSES

Charles, don't YOU know how to start a new thread here?  If you want to put me on the Hot Seat about a subject, then do it.  I will gladly discuss any scriptural subject with you – as long as you know going in that I will most likely only read the first 50 or so words of your posts, and then respond only to those words.

(If you do not know how to start a new thread, then let me know and I will set it up.)

[mikeboll64]

Quote (carmel @ Dec. 22 2012,00:13)

SO AS YOU CAN READ, THERE ARE TWO THRONES NEXT TO EACH OTHER. ONE FOR THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST!!!

I'm aware there are TWO thrones, Charles.  One is for the only true God, Jehovah.  And the other is for His holy servant Jesus Christ, also known as “the Lamb of God”.

Charles, does scripture ever call Jesus “the SERVANT of God”? YES or NO?

Does scripture ever call Jesus “the only true God”? YES or NO?

See, one of us is speaking according to scriptures, while the other one is not. Who is who?

[GeneBalthrop]

Charles…………Mike is right on this Jesus is called a Servant of God, but Jesus is never called the only true God. In fact it was Jesus himself that said for thou art the “ONLY TRUE GOD” Now ask you self what does the word “thou” or you mean , it is obvious that term means someone other then the person saying it and the word “ONLY” means there is No OTHER>

Now understanding this, how can you say Jesus and GOD are one and the same person. They certainly are one in agreement but not One in Identity. IMO

peace and love to you and yours………………………………………………………..gene

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