JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

[jammin]

you must answer me first mike before i answer your question.
paul said Christ is God . that is a word for word in the bible.

1. who is the God you are referring to?
2. you have the form of MAN, are not you MAN? yes or no?

[GeneBalthrop]

Jammin……….where did Paul ever say Jesus Christ was God at? I realize the CHRISTOS or Anointing Spirit was God That was (in) the man Jesus , But i am not sure that is what you are menaing here or not? Remember Jesus said in prayer “ for “thou” art the “ONLY” true God When he said “only” that can only mean there was not other God but the one he was praying to right?

peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………………….gene

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ Nov. 19 2012,15:02)

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 18 2012,22:54) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 18 2012,22:13) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2012,16:29) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 16 2012,21:52) who is that YHVH ed? Hi Jammin, “YHVH is GOD”(117) God bless Ed J who is that YHVH GOD? who is the GOD you are referring to? Hi Jammin, If you don't know him, I suggest you do get to know him.              “YHVH”(63) is the God of “The Bible”(63). “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (YHVH,)  the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”  (John 17:3) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org why cant you answer me? who is the GOD you are referring to?

Hi Jammin,

YHVH (יהוה) is the Judeo-Christian “GOD” of The Bible.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
PS. Why do you keep asking the same questions over and over?

[carmel]

mikeboll64,Nov. wrote:

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And Jesus said that his God was also our God, right?

Mike,

Jesus was NOT talking ABOUT HIS FATHER, but about HIS GLORIFICATION WHICH WAS NOT YET OCCURRED!

As I pointed out, the word “ASCEND”, figuratively it means:

PROCEED FROM AN INFERIOR TO A SUPERIOR DEGREE OR LEVEL:

 Now:

I ASCEND TO MY FATHER AND TO YOUR FATHER, AND TO MY GOD AND YOUR GOD [/B]

HERE JESUS WAS REFERING TO HIS GLORIFICATION WHICH STILL HAD TO OCCUR, LATER ON!

NOT TO HIS FATHER!

HE SAID THAT HE WOULD BE IN THE SUPERIOR STATE  OF HIS FATHER AS A SPIRIT BEING, AND OF THEIR FATHER AS A CARNAL BEING.

BUT AS ONE BEING TOGETHER WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT

BUT HIS FATHER STILL REMAINS  LIKE HE ALWAYS WAS :A SPIRIT.

NEVER THE LESS  THE FATHER ALSO GLORIFIED SIMPLY INDIRECTLY THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT.

THEREFORE THE FATHER IS IN A DIFFERENT STATE IN COMPARISON TO HIS GLORIFIED SON.

ALSO THEN WHEN HE SAID

TO MY GOD AND YOUR GOD,

HE MEANT THAT HE WOULD BE GLORIFIED BOTH AS HIS  GOD( SPIRIT STATE) THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND YOUR GOD( CARNAL STATE!) SINCE HE WAS A HUMAN BEING!

SO JESUS CHRIST, WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD SINCE AS A BEING HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO OWNS A BODY BOTH SPIRITUAL AND CARNAL.

SO ALL THE ENTIRE CREATURES BOTH SPIRIT IN HEAVEN  AND CARNAL ON EARTH ARE SUBJECT TO CHRIST NOT TO THE FATHER!

IN FACT HE IS IN COMMAND!!!

THEREFORE ALL THE ENTIRE CREATURES HAVE

ONE TRUE GOD,AND JESUS CHRIST, UNIQUE BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH.

HE USED THE TERMS MY GOD BECAUSE HE WAS A HUMAN BEING AND WAS ABOUT TO BE UNITED WITH GOD AS ONE ENTITY,WHEN HE SPOKE THOSE WORDS!!!

SO IN A WAY THE FATHER IS HIS GOD!!!

LIKEWISE IN HEBREWS 1:

8 But to the Son: Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of justice is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

9 Thou hast loved justice, and hated iniquity: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

10 And: Thou in the beginning, O Lord, didst found the earth: and the works of thy hands are the heavens.

AS YOU CAN READ THE FATHER CALLS HIS SON “GOD” HE ALSO SAYS TO HIS SON:

Thou in the beginning, O Lord, didst found the earth: and the works of thy hands are the heavens.

ALSO  HE USED THE TERMS

“YOUR GOD”

BECAUSE HE WAS REFERING TO HIMSELF

(NOT TO HIS FATHER)

AS A UNIQUE CARNAL GOD DUE TO THE FACT THAT HE WAS A HUMAN BEING AND ABOUT TO BE UNITED WITH GOD AS ONE ENTITY!

BUT ALL IN ONE BEING JESUS CHRIST!!!

ALL IN HIM!!!

THEREFORE TO REFER TO YOUR QUESTION:

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How do you explain the fact that Jesus told us point blank that our God and his God was “the Father”, yet you have chosen a DIFFERENT God for yourself?

MIKE!

A DIFFERENT GOD DEFINITELY YES, BECAUSE EVEN THE FATHER IS PLEASED TO BE A DIFFERENT BEING, IN BOTH A CARNAL AND A SPIRITUAL BODY FOR THE TIME BEING.

SOMETHING THAT HE NEVER HAD BEFORE.

IN JESUS CHRIST THOUGH,

TILL THE LAST DAY WHEN HE WILL BE ALL IN ALL, AND ALL UNDER HIM:

AND DUE TO THIS FACT THAT THE FATHER BECAME OFFICIALLY:

THE SUPREME SPIRITUAL GOD!!!

TO CONCLUDE :

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Charles, my God actually IS the God of Jesus, for I'm a part of the “US” Paul talks about in 1 Cor 8:6.

HERE IS 1 Cor.8:6

Yet to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Now I will write it the way it is meant to be:

Yet to us there is but one God, HERE THERE IS A COMMA RIGHT?  SO FROM AFTER THE COMMA ONWARDS START THE DESCRIPTION OF THE PROPER GOD PAUL MEANT:

SO

ONE GOD,

the Father,

of whom are all things,and we unto him;

and one Lord Jesus Christ,

by whom are all things, and we by him.

SO GOD IS NOT THE FATHER ONLY OK!!

BUT YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE JESUS CHRIST

SO PAUL MEANT:

THE FATHER AND JESUS CHRIST

THE SPIRIT AND  THE FLESH

THE ONLY TRUE GOD

You as a human being can only love the Father if you love the Son!!!

You as a human being can only be accepted by the Father if you accept Jesus Christ.!!!

You as a human being can only be heard by the Father if you ask Him through Jesus Christ.!!!

You as a human being do not have a God without Jesus Christ!!!

So who is God in the truth for humans???

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[mikeboll64]

Quote (carmel @ Nov. 19 2012,14:30)

Mike, Jesus was NOT talking ABOUT HIS FATHER, but about HIS GLORIFICATION WHICH WAS NOT YET OCCURRED!

Charles,

Where was the Father while His anointed one Jesus was on earth?

[Ed J]

Hey Mike,

At least Charles explains questions we ask, most do not.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

Yeah Ed. I'm not even replying to jammin's last posts. It's just the same old trash talk every time.

Who in their right mind says their exists only ONE Almighty God, and then asks us WHICH Almighty God we're asking about?

[jammin]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 19 2012,23:51)

Jammin……….where did Paul ever say Jesus Christ was God at? I realize the CHRISTOS or Anointing Spirit was God That was (in) the man Jesus , But i am not sure that is what you are menaing here or not?  Remember Jesus said in prayer “ for “thou” art the “ONLY” true God When he said “only” that can only mean there was not other God but the one he was praying to right? peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………………….gene

Philippians 2:6

New Living Translation (NLT)

6 Though he was God,[a]
he did not think of equality with God
as something to cling to.

you do have the form of MAN, are not you MAN? yes or no?

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 20 2012,01:52)

Quote (jammin @ Nov. 19 2012,15:02) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 18 2012,22:54) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 18 2012,22:13) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2012,16:29) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 16 2012,21:52) who is that YHVH ed? Hi Jammin, “YHVH is GOD”(117) God bless Ed J who is that YHVH GOD? who is the GOD you are referring to? Hi Jammin, If you don't know him, I suggest you do get to know him.              “YHVH”(63) is the God of “The Bible”(63). “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (YHVH,)  the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”  (John 17:3) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org why cant you answer me? who is the GOD you are referring to? Hi Jammin, YHVH (יהוה) is the Judeo-Christian “GOD” of The Bible. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org PS. Why do you keep asking the same questions over and over?

cant you answer my question ed?? is it hard for you to answer?

who is the GOD you are referring to?
who is that judeo-christian GOD?

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 20 2012,11:39)

Yeah Ed.  I'm not even replying to jammin's last posts.  It's just the same old trash talk every time. Who in their right mind says their exists only ONE Almighty God, and then asks us WHICH Almighty God we're asking about?

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ Nov. 20 2012,11:54)

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 20 2012,01:52) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 19 2012,15:02) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 18 2012,22:54) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 18 2012,22:13) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2012,16:29) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 16 2012,21:52) who is that YHVH ed? Hi Jammin, “YHVH is GOD”(117) God bless Ed J who is that YHVH GOD? who is the GOD you are referring to? Hi Jammin, If you don't know him, I suggest you do get to know him.              “YHVH”(63) is the God of “The Bible”(63). “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (YHVH,)  the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”  (John 17:3) God bless Ed J why cant you answer me? who is the GOD you are referring to? Hi Jammin, YHVH (יהוה) is the Judeo-Christian “GOD” of The Bible. God bless Ed J [/URL] PS. Why do you keep asking the same questions over and over? cant you answer my question ed?? is it hard for you to answer? who is the GOD you are referring to? who is that judeo-christian GOD?

Hi Jammin,

“I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of
 God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.” (Ex 6:3)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[carmel]

mikeboll64,Nov. wrote:

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Where was the Father while His anointed one Jesus was on earth?

Mike,

you yourself admitted:

In the soul of the  flesh body of Jesus.

AND IN THE SAME TIME IN HEAVEN!!!

GOD ALWAYS IS :

 OMNIPRESENCE        

peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[carmel]

Mike,

I wanted to make clear also regarding :

John 1:17 THESE things Jesus spoke, and lifting up his eyes to heaven, he said: Father, the hour is come, glorify thy Son, that thy Son may glorify thee.

That kind of glorification occurred AFTER JESUS RAISED HIS OWN FLESH BODY!!!

THE APPROPRIATE WORD SHOULD BE :

SPIRITUALIZED HIS BODY. WHICH OCCURRED AS HE SAID  BANG ON

ON THE THIRD DAY

THE FULL GLORIFICATION OCCURED AFTER 6 IN THE EVENING OF THAT SAME DAY, WHICH IN JEWISH WOULD HAVE BEEN:

NIGHT.

THIS IS VITAL FOR US HUMANS TO BE AWARE OF, FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT JESUS SPIRITUALIZED HIS FLESH BODY THROUGH HIS PERFECT LIFE AS SON OF MAN,AND OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED IT AFTER BAPTIZM AS SON OF GOD.

LIKE THAT WE AS HUMANS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPIRITUALIZE OUR BODY WHILE LIVING ON EARTH BUT TOTALLY DEAD IN THE FLESH AND TOTALLY ALIVE IN THE SPIRIT OF JESUS CHRIST.

THE FACT THAT JESUS ERADICATED BOTH OUR ORIGINAL SIN THROUGH BIRTH,AND ALL SINS WE COMMIT,IT LEAVES ONLY US TO MOVE TO THAT DIRECTION OF HOLINESS.

ONE LAST POINT:

ONLY GOD JUDGES:

WE AS HUMANS AFTER DEATH WOULD BE INFRONT OF JESUS CHRIST TO BE JUDGED AS

OUR GOD SINCE HE WAS CARNAL

AND OUR GOD SINCE HE HAD A SOUL

THE FATHER HAD,AND HAS  NONE OF BOTH. ONLY SPIRIT.

BUT THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT IN JESUS:

THE FATHER IS IN ACTION, IS PARTICIPATING.

JESUS SAID:

John 8:16 And if I do judge, my judgment is true: because I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 20 2012,14:26)

Quote (jammin @ Nov. 20 2012,11:54) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 20 2012,01:52) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 19 2012,15:02) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 18 2012,22:54) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 18 2012,22:13) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2012,16:29) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 16 2012,21:52) who is that YHVH ed? Hi Jammin, “YHVH is GOD”(117) God bless Ed J who is that YHVH GOD? who is the GOD you are referring to? Hi Jammin, If you don't know him, I suggest you do get to know him.              “YHVH”(63) is the God of “The Bible”(63). “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (YHVH,)  the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”  (John 17:3) God bless Ed J why cant you answer me? who is the GOD you are referring to? Hi Jammin, YHVH (יהוה) is the Judeo-Christian “GOD” of The Bible. God bless Ed J [/URL] PS. Why do you keep asking the same questions over and over? cant you answer my question ed?? is it hard for you to answer? who is the GOD you are referring to? who is that judeo-christian GOD? Hi Jammin, “I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of  God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.” (Ex 6:3) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

who is that jehovah?

[terraricca]

Quote (carmel @ Nov. 18 2012,12:19)

mikeboll64,Nov. wrote: [/quote] Quote Also, “the flesh”, as you call it, had his own mind and will.  Can God's will be divided?  Can God be sent down from heaven (by whom?) not to do His own will, but the will of God? Mike, Yes I  agree the flesh body had his own will,and he proved it when he was at the age of 12 by not OBEYING HIS PARENTS   HE WAS SUPPOSE TO REMAIN WITH THE MALE GROUP. HE PURPOSELY LEFT THE GROUP TO DO HIS FATHER'S WILL SO HIS FATHER'S WILL WAS TO DISOBEY HIS PARENTS NO??? HE COMFIRMED LUKE 2: 48 And seeing him, they wondered. And his mother said to him: Son, why hast thou done so to us? behold thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. 49 And he said to them: How is it that you sought me? did you not know, that I must be about my father's BUSINESS? NOTICE HIS PARENTS WERE REALLY UPSET!!! WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE PARENTS TO DAY IF THEIR SON IS LOST FOR THEE DAYS??? NEVER MIND THOSE HORRIBLE DAYS!!! SO JESUS OBEYED THE FATHER OF THE FLESH,NOT THE FATHER OF THE SPIRIT!!! NOTICE SCRIPTURE USED THE WORD BUSINESS. JESUS ALWAYS USED THE WORD “WORK” WHEN HE REFERED TO HIS FATHER'S WORK!!! SO BUSINESS IS A REFERNECE TO THE FATHER OF BUSINESS: SATAN!!! THE FATHER OF THE EARTH SINCE THE FLESH IS OF THE EARTH!!! SO HERE YOU HAVE A PROOF THAT JESUS WAS A GENUINE MAN AND AS MAN HE HAD TO OBEY THE FATHER OF THE FLESH FIRST!!! WHO WAS SATAN!!! WHO WAS IN HIS SOULS LIKE ALL HIS BRETHREN!!! SO JESUS COMFIRMED THAT HUMANS WERE SLAVES OF SATAN,AND THEIR SINS WERE NEVER COMING THROUGH THEIR OWN WILL BUT THROUGH THE WILL OF SATAN THE FATHER OF THE FLESH!!! 50 And they understood not the word that he spoke unto them. OBVIOUS!!! 51 And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject to them. SO FROM THEN ON HE WAS SUBJECT TO THEM!!! SO ONLY THAT OCCASION OCCURED THAT JESUS DISOBEYED PURPOSELY HIS PARENTS WRITTEN IN SCRIPTURE!!! And his mother kept all these words in her heart. WITHOUT A DOUBT IT WAS NOT COMING FROM GOD HIS FATHER,BUT FROM HIS ENEMY SATAN. THIS IS THE WAR JESUS HAD THROUGHOUT HIS LIFE, I WONDER WHAT HAPPENED IN THOSE 18 HIDDEN YEARS THAT HE LIVED AS MAN IN HIS OWN FREE WILL DEFINITELY OBEYING BOTH THE FATHER OF THE FLESH,AND THE FATHER OF THE SPIRIT TO KEEP SATAN PERPLEXED WHETHER JESUS WAS THE SON OF MAN OR THE SON OF GOD. REFLECT JESUS ALSO KEPT THIS WAY OF LIVING EVEN AFTER HE DID ALL JUSTICE THROUGH HIS BAPTIZM WHEN HE REMOVED FOR A WHILE SATAN FROM HIS SOUL IN ORDER TO LIVE ONLY AS SON OF GOD!!! JESUS HAD BOTH THE SPIRIT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS,AND THE SPIRIT OF EVIL, IN HIM !!! THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO CONFIRM TO SATAN THAT GOOD IS SUPERIOR TO EVIL. 52 And Jesus advanced in wisdom, and age, and grace with God and men. WITH GOD REGARING SOULS !!! WITH MEN REGARDING FLESH!!!

Charles

What his that glorification that Christ talks about

So that John 1:17 can understood in truth

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ Nov. 20 2012,19:57)

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 20 2012,14:26) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 20 2012,11:54) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 20 2012,01:52) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 19 2012,15:02) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 18 2012,22:54) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 18 2012,22:13) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2012,16:29) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 16 2012,21:52) who is that YHVH ed? Hi Jammin, “YHVH is GOD”(117) God bless Ed J who is that YHVH GOD? who is the GOD you are referring to? Hi Jammin, If you don't know him, I suggest you do get to know him.              “YHVH”(63) is the God of “The Bible”(63). “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (YHVH,)  the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”  (John 17:3) God bless Ed J why cant you answer me? who is the GOD you are referring to? Hi Jammin, YHVH (יהוה) is the Judeo-Christian “GOD” of The Bible. God bless Ed J PS. Why do you keep asking the same questions over and over? cant you answer my question ed?? is it hard for you to answer? who is the GOD you are referring to? who is that judeo-christian GOD? Hi Jammin, “I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of  God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.” (Ex 6:3) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org who is that jehovah?

God

[mikeboll64]

Quote (carmel @ Nov. 20 2012,00:10)

mikeboll64,Nov. wrote: [/quote] Quote Where was the Father while His anointed one Jesus was on earth? Mike, you yourself admitted: In the soul of the  flesh body of Jesus. AND IN THE SAME TIME IN HEAVEN!!! GOD ALWAYS IS :  OMNIPRESENCE         peace and love in Jesus Charles

God isn't omnipresent, Charles. If He was, then He'd be EVERYWHERE at once, right? That means God would be taking up the space that you and I take up. And that would mean that God was you and I, and you and I are God Almighty. But that is a different topic.

As for the question I asked, are you saying that God Almighty was simultaneously Jesus AND the Father in heaven? He prayed to HIMSELF?

I can't really tell if that's what you said, so correct me if I misunderstood your words.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (carmel @ Nov. 20 2012,00:38)

ON THE THIRD DAY THE FULL GLORIFICATION OCCURED AFTER 6 IN THE EVENING OF THAT SAME DAY………………

So then Jesus was “FULLY GLORIFIED” when he said that his God was also our God?

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 20 2012,20:54)

Quote (jammin @ Nov. 20 2012,19:57) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 20 2012,14:26) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 20 2012,11:54) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 20 2012,01:52) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 19 2012,15:02) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 18 2012,22:54) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 18 2012,22:13) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2012,16:29) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 16 2012,21:52) who is that YHVH ed? Hi Jammin, “YHVH is GOD”(117) God bless Ed J who is that YHVH GOD? who is the GOD you are referring to? Hi Jammin, If you don't know him, I suggest you do get to know him.              “YHVH”(63) is the God of “The Bible”(63). “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (YHVH,)  the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”  (John 17:3) God bless Ed J why cant you answer me? who is the GOD you are referring to? Hi Jammin, YHVH (יהוה) is the Judeo-Christian “GOD” of The Bible. God bless Ed J PS. Why do you keep asking the same questions over and over? cant you answer my question ed?? is it hard for you to answer? who is the GOD you are referring to? who is that judeo-christian GOD? Hi Jammin, “I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of  God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.” (Ex 6:3) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org who is that jehovah? God

who is that GOD? why cant you answer my question boy LOL

[carmel]

mikeboll64,Nov. wrote:

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THE FULL GLORIFICATION OCCURED AFTER 6 IN THE EVENING OF THAT SAME DAY……………… So then Jesus was “FULLY GLORIFIED” when he said that his God was also our God?

Mike,

No!!!

That was  04.00 in the MORNING.

If you keep on reading you will have your answer.

Jesus confirmed when he was glorified through certain statements which you will discern if you reflect on them!!!

there are statements which a person like you,WITH EVERY RESPECT SINCE YOU DO NOT BELEIVE THE WAY I DO,will completely ignore BUT JESUS NEVER SAID ANYTHING FOR NOTHING!!!

SO REFLECT AND YOU WILL REALIZE WHEN JESUS  GLORIFIED

Also he never said DIRECTLY that His God was also our God!!!

AS I DEFINED :

WITH THE WORDS ASCEND AND ALSO TO

He MEANT TO SAY:

I WILL BE GLORIFIED IN MY FATHER AND YOUR FATHER,

AND MY GOD,AND YOUR GOD.

BUT SINCE HE WAS JUST A MAN WITH A SPIRITUAL FLESH BODY ONLY,

NOT EVEN IN HIS SOUL, OBVIOUS HE DIDN'T NEEDED IT SINCE THE FLESH  SPIRITUALIZED ITSELF! AND THE SPIRIT GIVES LIFE!!!

AND ALSO A PROOF THAT HE WAS IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN EXCEPT SIN, HE HAD TO USE THE WORDS:

MY FATHER, AND MY GOD RESPECTIVELY.

IF HE WAS GLORIFIED AS GOD HE WOULDN'T HAVE SAID SO!!!

THIS EVENT AS I POINTED OUT HAPPENED PURPOSELY FOR THOES WHO ARE READY TO ACCEPT THE TRUTH.

SO HE HIMSELF WOULD BE IN THE GLORY OF BOTH HIS FATHER AND THEIR FATHER, BOTH HIS GOD AND THEIR GOD BUT UNITED WITH THE INSERTION OF THE HOLY SPIRIT (HIS SOUL)INTO HIS FLESH BODY( JESUS'SPIRIT) TO BE OCCURRED LATER!!!

AND BECOME:

THE TRUE GOD, BOTH IN SPIRIT AND IN FLESH

THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST

JESUS' SOUL WAS STILL IN HELL TILL THE THIRD NIGHT IS COMMENCED,WHICH IT DID AT 6 OF THE SAME DAY OF THE RESURRECTION.

JESUS SAID HIMSELF THAT:

HE HIMSELF WILL RAISE HIS BODY UP, WHEN HE SPOKE ABOUT THE TEMPLE.

ALSO:

HE HIMSELF SAID THAT

THE SON OF MAN

WOULD BE THREE DAYS

( FOR THE BODY TO SPIRITUALIZE ITSELF)

AND THREE NIGHTS

( FOR THE FULL GLORIFICATION)

IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH.

WHICH MEANS HELL IN THE CENTRE OF THE EARTH!!!

NOTICE ALSO HE SAID THE SON OF MAN WHICH IS A REFERENCE TO HIS SOUL  THE HOLY SPIRIT!

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

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