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Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 15 2012,18:21) Quote (carmel @ Nov. 15 2012,08:01) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 13 2012,20:13) Quote Jesus lineage explained “Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5 and Luke 1:36)
“Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
“Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)At birth: Jesus was 50%(HolySpirit)God (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25%(Levite)Priest and 25%(Judah)King!
At baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)Edj,
It seems to me from those calculations, that Jesus neither is a complete man, nor a complete God!!!
Now we are at least complete humans!!!
think about that!!!
Tell me why we were complete humans before Jesus came, and we as Christians became split after Jesus redemption 50% man, and 50% God's spirit???
I will join you in the other thread!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi Charles,Someone who is 50% White and 50% black is called “BLACK”.
Jesus is called a man for this very reason; but he is also
called “The Son of God” because God is his FATHER.
(See Matthew 1:18, 20, and Luke 1:35)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote Someone who is 50% White and 50% black is called “BLACK”.
Jesus is called a man for this very reason; but he is also
called “The Son of God” because God is his FATHER.Edj,
You know what is wrong with you???
You simply look at Jesus from one eye the left,the evil one!
Your right eye,godly,is blind!
Answer my post regarding GENESIS 1:26
I WILL PROVE TO YOU THAT I AM RIGHT REGARDING YOUR RIGHT EYE!!!
Please and love in Jesus!
Charles
Quote So the “man Jesus” was someone completely different than the “God Jesus”, who made up a third of the “man Jesus' ” own God? ACCORDING TO MY CORRUPTED MNTALITY Mike,
With the same argument:
What fraction of God do abide in us, considering so many MILLIONS OF CHRISTIANS.
IF JESUS AS MAN WAS A THIRD OF HIS OWN SPIRITUAL GOD???
ARE YOU SO WITH YOUR NAPPY ON AND BELEIVE THAT GOD COULD BE DEVIDED, OR LOSE IN ANY WAY EVEN AS FLESH HIS RICHES.
DON'T YOU BELEIVE THAT GOD IS ALWAYS IN HIS FULLNESS IN NO MATTER STATE HE IS???
COLOSSIANS 1:19 Because in him, it hath well pleased the Father, that all fullness should dwell;
THE ABOVE IS REGARDING CREATION:
SO IS JESUS A THIRD OF WHAT YOU ARE DREAMMING???
COLOSSIANS 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead corporeally; [/B]
THE ABOVE IS REGARDING GOD ALMIGHTY IN FLESH!!!
IT IS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL:
THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD (DEIGHTY )
CORPOREALLY.
HOW I WISH YOU RESPECT GOD WHAT IS DUE TO HIM IN HIS FULNESS.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (carmel @ Nov. 17 2012,17:00) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 15 2012,18:21) Quote (carmel @ Nov. 15 2012,08:01) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 13 2012,20:13) Jesus lineage explained “Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5 and Luke 1:36)
“Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
“Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)At birth: Jesus was 50%(HolySpirit)God (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25%(Levite)Priest and 25%(Judah)King!
At baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)
Edj,It seems to me from those calculations, that Jesus neither is a complete man, nor a complete God!!!
Hi Charles,Someone who is 50% White and 50% black is called “BLACK”.
Jesus is called a man for this very reason; but he is also
called “The Son of God” because God is his FATHER.
(See Matthew 1:18, 20, and Luke 1:35)God bless
Ed J
Edj,You know what is wrong with you???
You simply look at Jesus from one eye the left,the evil one!
Your right eye,godly,is blind!
Please and love in Jesus!
Charles
Hi Charles, (Matt 6:22)Here is what the bible actually says…
“The light of the body is the eye: if therefore
thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.”God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (carmel @ Nov. 17 2012,17:00) Edj, Answer my post regarding GENESIS 1:26
Please and love in Jesus!
Charles
Hi Charles,I didn't see any questions in your post there? …do you have any?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (carmel @ Nov. 15 2012,08:01)
Edj,It seems to me from those calculations, that Jesus neither is a complete man, nor a complete God!!!
Please and love in Jesus!
Charles
Hi Charles,Man was created in God's image.
“For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be
conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be
the firstborn among many brethren.” (Rom.8:29)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Lightenup @ Nov. 15 2012,20:25) Correction:
Jesus said I and the Father ARE one. Jesus said 'are' not 'is.'
Mark 12:29
“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.' “The word “is” is the third person SINGULAR in this verse, Kathi. I don't know of a scripture that says, “Your God ARE one”, do you?
Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 15 2012,20:34) You have not proven this inaccuracy, have you. You don't even know a lick of grammar rules in the Aramaic language so who are you to decide if it is inaccurate or not? Who are you to correct jammin regarding Aramaic translations. Do you think you are some one qualified to intelligently discuss the Aramaic grammar nuances?
Let's see………………..FOUR independent Aramaic dictionaries versus ONE dude who desperately wants Jesus to be the God he is the Son of………….. Who should we believe?
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 15 2012,20:37) Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 15 2012,21:27) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 15 2012,17:32) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 14 2012,02:38) Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
“For today, The Savior has been born to you, who is THE LORD JEHOVAH The Messiah, in the city of David.”
So the Lord Jehovah was BORN? And the Lord Jehovah is the Messiah OF the Lord Jehovah? Hmmmmm………..I guess the Catholics have been right this whole time, jammin…………. Mary really IS the “Mother of God”.
Mike,
The Son's divine nature is from the Father, the Son's human nature is from Mary. Mary is not the mother of the divinity of the Son. He was divinity long before Mary came along.
Amen!Hope you are well teacher!
In his Love!
Hi Keith.Are you guys mixing up God sent His Son to die as atonement with God Himself came to die at the hands of humans?
It seems you are confused as to what the scriptures really teach.
Btw Kathi, “divinity” is not exclusive to just the Father and His servant Jesus, who is the Christ of God.
Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 15 2012,20:44) Mike,
I don't recall MRYA being used for a disciple. Do you know where?
Look on your Peshitta thread – where we were discussing the things said on that other forum.I linked the thread where one of the posters said the word was used of Thomas, or one of the Apostles.
I can't verify the truth of that claim, but I know a poster made that claim, and that I pointed it out to you in that thread.
Quote (jammin @ Nov. 16 2012,00:13) the word ONE has a meaning of united.
It also has a meaning of “singular”.Quote (jammin @ Nov. 16 2012,00:13) are you saying that PAUL is lying when he said that Christ is God in phil 2.6?
Paul never said the Christ (anointed one) OF God was God, jammin.He said God's servant Jesus was existing in the form OF God, but didn't consider equality with [HIS OWN] God something to be grasped.
How you and your bogus Trinitarian translators can take such an obvious statement of subservience, and try to FORCE it into a statement of equality, is beyond me.
The bad news is that you guys will never stop trying.
The good news is that none of that stuff really matters anymore, because the bottom line is that our ONE God is also the God of Jesus.
jammin, WHO do you think Jesus meant by the words “my God” in John 20:17?
A. The Father?
B. A combination of Father and Son?
Which one please?
Quote (carmel @ Nov. 17 2012,00:21) IF JESUS AS MAN WAS A THIRD OF HIS OWN SPIRITUAL GOD???
Charles,If it makes sense to you that Jesus is a third of his own God, then go with it. It doesn't make sense to me, so I will continue to believe the words of my Lord that OUR one God is ALSO the same God Jesus has.
If Jesus' God is NOT a combo of Father and Son, then neither is our God.
To all………God was in .Jesus he in dwelt him, just as Jesus said over and over, but that in no way made the man Jesus a God or god or angel of a preexistent. origin . No morE then it would make you or I prexistent , while the “spirit” or the Christo's was preexistent while the man Jesus who that Spirit was in was not prexistent . Therefore where it is said my lord “and ” my God is true. there were two beings spirits present in Jesus' body he was one and God the Father was the other . Just as Jesus said there were two that bore wittnes he was one and the Father was then other.
And again where it says God was reconciling the whole world unto himself through Jesus the Christ or anointed one. Jesus said over and ove God the Father was in him, when are people going two start to believe him? But because the Father who is a Spirit is in some one does not make that person themselves a God or demigod, or a preexistent person .
Peace and love to you all…………………………………….gene
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 15 2012,18:21) Quote (carmel @ Nov. 15 2012,08:01) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 13 2012,20:13) Quote Jesus lineage explained “Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5 and Luke 1:36)
“Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
“Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)At birth: Jesus was 50%(HolySpirit)God (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25%(Levite)Priest and 25%(Judah)King!
At baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)Edj,
It seems to me from those calculations, that Jesus neither is a complete man, nor a complete God!!!
Now we are at least complete humans!!!
think about that!!!
Tell me why we were complete humans before Jesus came, and we as Christians became split after Jesus redemption 50% man, and 50% God's spirit???
I will join you in the other thread!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi Charles,Someone who is 50% White and 50% black is called “BLACK”.
Jesus is called a man for this very reason; but he is also
called “The Son of God” because God is his FATHER.
(See Matthew 1:18, 20, and Luke 1:35)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote Someone who is 50% White and 50% black is called “BLACK”. Edj,
What the 50% represents in each case?
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
mikeboll64,Nov. wrote:[/quote]
Quote He said God's servant Jesus was existing in the form OF God, Mike,
THE ONLY FORM GOD HAS IS JESUS'
GOD IS A SPIRIT THEREFORE FORMLESS.
SO GOD SENT (EMANATED) A SPIRIT OF HIS OWN SPIRIT, AS HIS SON IN FLESH TO BE HIS EVER FIRST GENUINE UNIQUE VISIBLE FORM ON EARTH FULLY GOD AND FULLY MAN
FULLY GOD FROM THE SPIRIT POINT OF VIEW
FULLY MAN FROM THE BODY POINT OF VIEW (SOUL AND FLESH)
SO JESUS SERVED GOD, HIS OWN SUBSTANCE,BY BEING GOD'S CARRIER IN FLESH AND BLOOD!!!
THE ONLY WAY TO BE THE TRUTH.
1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, Jesus Christ: not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit which testifieth,
THAT CHRIST IS THE TRUTH .
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (carmel @ Nov. 17 2012,11:10) SO JESUS SERVED GOD, HIS OWN SUBSTANCE
I don't think God served Himself, Charles. You are, of course, entitled to any belief that makes you happy.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 18 2012,02:35) To all………God was in .Jesus he in dwelt him, just as Jesus said over and over, but that in no way made the man Jesus a God or god or angel of a preexistent. origin . No morE then it would make you or I prexistent , while the “spirit” or the Christo's was preexistent while the man Jesus who that Spirit was in was not prexistent . Therefore where it is said my lord “and ” my God is true. there were two beings spirits present in Jesus' body he was one and God the Father was the other . Just as Jesus said there were two that bore wittnes he was one and the Father was then other. And again where it says God was reconciling the whole world unto himself through Jesus the Christ or anointed one. Jesus said over and ove God the Father was in him, when are people going two start to believe him? But because the Father who is a Spirit is in some one does not make that person themselves a God or demigod, or a preexistent person .
Peace and love to you all…………………………………….gene
Quote No morE then it would make you or I prexistent Gene,
WRONG!
WE PREEXISTED AS ANGELS!
WE JOINED LUCIFER IN THE REBEL!
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and do need the glory of God.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
mikeboll64,Nov. wrote:[/quote]
Quote I don't think God served Himself, Charles. Mike,
AS MAN:
HE LOWERED HIMSELF!
THE FLESH SERVED THE SPIRIT.
THE FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING EXCEPT TO SERVE.
THE SPIRIT GIVES LIFE TO THE FLESH.
EVEN WITH US:
UNLESS WE LIVE IN THE SPIRIT OF JESUS.
UNLESS WE SERVE THE SOUL ( JESUS' SPIRIT, GOD'S ABODE)
WE WILL DIE FOR EVER!
THE SPIRIT TRANSFORMS THE FLESH AND MAKE IT SPIRITUAL WHILE ON EARTH.
DESTROY THIS TEMPLE AND I WILL RAISE IT UP IN THREE DAYS! SIMPLY BECAUSE JESUS LIVED A PERFECT SPIRITUAL LIFE ON EARTH! OBVIOUS GOD IN HIM!!! NO HUMAN CAN ACHEIVE THIS.
SATAN WAS CONVINCED ABOUT IT.
BUT HE NEVER BELEIVED THAT GOD HIMSELF WOULD BECOME MAN.
THE SPIRIT OF THE FATHER TRANSFORMED THE FLESH OF THE SON AND GLORIFIED HIM AND HIMSELF.
BUT AFTER THE SON TRANSFORMED HIS SPIRIT BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT FROM THE FATHER INTO MATTER, THEREFORE CREATION, THEREFORE FLESH AND GLORIFIED THE FATHER ON EARTH.
SO THE SON SUPPLIED THE FLESH.
THE FATHER SUPPLIED THE POWER, THE LIFE!
THEY WERE TWO TO BECOME ONE WITH THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT!
BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT.
BOTH GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST. THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT
THE TRUE GOD,AND JESUS CHRIST. THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT.
Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the
HOLY GHOST
, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (carmel @ Nov. 17 2012,13:38) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 18 2012,05:41) I don't think God served Himself, Charles. Mike,
AS MAN:
HE LOWERED HIMSELF!
THE FLESH SERVED THE SPIRIT.
THE FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING EXCEPT TO SERVE.
Jesus is still a servant of his God, Charles. (Acts 4:30, etc.)Also, “the flesh”, as you call it, had his own mind and will. Can God's will be divided? Can God be sent down from heaven (by whom?) not to do His own will, but the will of God?
God sent God to earth, not to do God's will, but to do God's will. Does that really make sense to you, Charles?
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