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Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.(Isaiah 53:12)
High Nick,
You: Hi C,
Have you always just applied logic to scriptures to interpret them?
Me: With your question above, it is quite clear to me that you are preoccupied to
comment specifically on what I posted.
Here is the first part of my Post again!
YOU: Hi Carmel,
The understanding of a pious 12 yo student of the anointed Word cannot be compared with a man in whom the living Spirit dwells and teaches and through whom speaks.
Me: And according to you what was Jesus referring to with His enigmatic words:
that I must be about MY FATHER’S business?
Have you got a glimpse of WHAT THE FATHER’S BUSINESS IS?THE BUSINESS WHICH ACCORDING TO JESUS STARTED AT THE AGE OF THIRTEEN AND ENDED AT THE AGE OF THIRTY?
EIGHTEEN YEARS BY WHICH JESUS EMPOWERED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT SINCE HIS BIRTH, ESTABLISHED HIMSELF OFFICIALLY THE SON OF GOD WHEN HE
WAS READY TO FULFILL ALL JUSTICE!
IT IS THROUGH THOSE MYSTERIOUS EIGHTEEN YEARS, THE FATHER’S BUSINESS, THAT JESUS CONFIRMED THAT
HE WAS THE TRUTH!
THE SON OF GOD, NOT ON HIS BAPTISM.
HE WAS BAPTIZED IN ORDER TO BE DECLARED
OFFICIALLY THE SON OF GOD BY
THE TESTIMONY OF THE FATHER HIMSELF!
I expect your comment, please!
Logic or not our aim is the truth!
“Come now, and let us reason together,” Says the LORD. Isaiah 1:18
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
Hi C,
HE WAS BAPTISED IN ORDER TO BE DECLARED OFFICIALLY THE SON OF GOD.
Really?
your statements are didactic and seem to disallow reasoning.po
Hi C,
Surely his Father’s business was to preach the gospel to the poor, to proclaim release to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to set free the oppressed, to proclaim the favourable year of the Lord as he said in Lk 4.
Such are the ways of his Father. Useless theology and theory are not His ways so have you listened to His son and found safety in him?
Hi C,
God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself. 2 Cor 5.19
Do you believe this?
Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making as appeal through us;
We beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God.
2 Cor 5.20
such is the gospel.
Of course the door of the kingdom had yet to be opened when Jesus spoke to the woman at the well. He had yet to die and been resurrected and taken to heaven to give the Spirit to others.
Jn 7.38f
God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself. 2 Cor 5.19
Do you believe this?
Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making as appeal through us;
We beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God.
2 Cor 5.20
such is the gospel.
Nick………“perfect”, brother.
peace and love to you and yours………gene
Hi Nick,
You: Hi C,
HE WAS BAPTISED IN ORDER TO BE DECLARED OFFICIALLY THE SON OF GOD.
Really?
Nick,
You put a full stop after the word “God”, something that I never did.
Is that the end of my sentence for you?
Here is what I posted in full:
HE WAS BAPTIZED IN ORDER TO BE DECLARED OFFICIALLY THE SON OF GOD
BY THE TESTIMONY OF THE FATHER HIMSELF!
Isn’t that the truth?
Now, why did say “Really” ?
John5:37 And the Father himself who hath sent me, hath given testimony of me:
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
Hi C,
The Sons of God are led by the Spirit of God.
He was anointed at the Jordan and led by the Spirit after that.
do you agree?
Hi Nick,
You: He was anointed at the Jordan and led by the Spirit after that.
do you agree?
Me: NO!
Scripture does not say that Jesus was anointed at the Jordan!
Matthew 3:16 And Jesus being baptized, forthwith came out of the water: and lo,
the heavens were opened to him:
and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming upon him.
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying,
This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
THE ABOVE CONFIRMS THAT JESUS OFFICIALLY IS REVEALED
THE SON OF GOD!
JESUS, AS SON OF MAN, PREEXISTED PHYSICALLY AND WAS THE SON OF GOD ETERNALLY BEFORE THE WORLD WAS WITH AND IN THE SAME GLORY OF THE FATHER,
ETERNALLY ANOINTED! John17:5
ASSERTED IN John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will,
but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me,
that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing,
but should raise it up again on the last day.
ANSWER PLEASE: WHEN WAS JESUS’ LAST DAY AS A HUMAN ON EARTH?
ALSO IN:
John 6:But Jesus, knowing in himself, that his disciples murmured at this, said to them:
Doth this scandalize you?
62 If then you shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth:
THE FLESH PROFITETH NOTHING.
GOD IS A SPIRIT!
AND THE FACT THAT JESUS “THE WORD” SPOKEN OF GOD, A SPIRIT OF THE FATHER, BECAME HUMAN AS FLESH, COUNTS FOR NOTHING TO GOD!
IT IS HIS SPIRIT THAT GIVES LIFE /EXISTENCE, TO ALL PHYSICAL EVEN WHEN JESUS BECAME HUMAN,
THE FACT THAT JESUS IS OF THE
HOLY GHOST MORE THAN OF MARY!
JESUS ENTERED THIS WORLD AS A SPIRIT, THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD,
John 12:46 I have come into the world as light, so that whoever believes in me may not remain in darkness.
JESUS HAD NOTHING IN RELATION TO THIS SATANIC PHYSICALLY CURSED WORLD, OR ELSE HE WOULDN’T BE A REDEEMER! Well clear in
John 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh,
and hath nothing in me.
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
Carmel……The very word MESSIAH, CHRIST, means the , “ANOINTED ONE”. but you say he wasn’t anointed at the River Jordan. But scripture says he was , and the spirit descended from heaven on him like a dove. and after that he was led into the wilderness “by the Spirit”. Jesus is also called the “anointed one of God” , the very nam Christ means the anointed one. If Jesus were a God why would he even “need to be anointed” in the first place?
I realize you don’t understand this now, but what you and most others in “fallen Christianity” are doing, is always trying to make Jesus appear different then his human brothers and sisters, so that we can’t truly identify ourselves with him, be “exactly as he is”, and that is exactly what Satan want’s you to do. You teaching discourages people from the truth, that God the Father want’s us all to see , a teaching that Jesus himself will destroy at his return , 2Ths 2. It’s all there for those who have eyes to see.peace and love to you and your Carmel………gene
Hi Carmel,
You: Scripture does not say that Jesus was anointed at the Jordan!
Me: Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Hi Danny,
You: Hi Carmel,
You: Scripture does not say that Jesus was anointed at the Jordan!
Me: Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Me: I said:
Scripture does not say that Jesus was anointed AT THE RIVER JORDAN!
HE WAS BAPTIZED IN ORDER TO BE DECLARED OFFICIALLY THE SON OF GOD
BY THE TESTIMONY OF THE FATHER HIMSELF!
ONCE JESUS ACCOMPLISHED HIS FATHER’S BUSINESS!
Matthew 2:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to the Jordan, unto John, to be baptized by him. 14But John stayed him, saying:
I ought to be baptized by thee,
and comest thou to me?
15 And Jesus answering, said to him:
Suffer it to be so now.
For so it becometh us to fulfill all justice.
Then he suffered him.
Jesus was baptized to be OFFICIALLY DECLARED WHO HE WAS IN ISRAEL!
JESUS WAS ETERNALLY THE SON OF GOD/SON OF MAN AND FULL OF THE HOLY GHOST ONE SUBSTANCE AND DISTINCT BEFORE THE WORLD WAS! John 17:5
THEN HE EMPTIED HIMSELF IN ORDER TO BE BORN AS A HUMAN BEING LIKE US, BUT HE STILL REMAINED FULL OF THE HOLY GHOST BUT DISTINCT.
THE CARRIER OF THE HOLY GHOST, THE SOUL OF GOD!
Isaiah 42:1 BEHOLD my servant, I will uphold him: my elect,
MY SOUL delighteth in him:
I HAVE given my spirit upon him,
he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
PRESENT PERFECT TENSE used for past actions that are related to or continue into the present.
Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me,
and hear this:
I have not spoken in secret from the beginning:
from the time before it was done,
I was there,
and now the Lord God hath sent ME, and his SPIRIT.
WE AS HUMANS IN MORTAL FLESH ARE CARRIERS OF OUR SOULS!
NOW, AS CHRISTIANS, THROUGH OUR LIVES “IN CHRIST” WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BECOMING ALSO ONE SUBSTANCE SPIRITUALLY, IN THE SAME WAY JESUS DID TO HIS FLESH BODY BEFORE HIS PASSION! Luke 13:32
HE DID SO FOR OUR SAKE IN ORDER TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO
SPIRITUALIZE OUR BODIES, AND BECOME ONE SUBSTANCE ONCE WE LIVE A SPIRITUAL LIFE IN CHRIST.
BUT NOT BEFORE JESUS THE MAN, THE FIRST, THE BEGINNING, SPIRITUALIZED HIS BODY AS A HUMAN WHILE ON EARTH THROUGH HIS HOLY LIFE,
THE FATHER’S BUSINESS
ANNULLED THE SEXUAL REPRODUCTIVE PROCESS OF THIS SATANIC WORLD, AND ERADICATED SATAN FROM THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF THE HUMAN RACE!
John 16:33 These things I have spoken to you,
that in me you may have peace.
In the world you shall have distress: but have confidence,
I have overcome the world.
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
Hi C,
Conception in humans – Jesus began life and was conceived in Mary- requires contribution of an egg from the woman and a sperm from the male source.
how do you see it again?
Hi C,
We know from Ps 104 that the Spirit creates.
We know that Jesus was conceived in, and born of Mary.
No suggestion in scripture that she was not the mother of the Lord Jesus.
Are you telling us a conceptus was placed in the womb and she was only a surrogate mother?
Nick……Yea that is what Carmel would like you to believe. But we know from scripture that Jesus was born into his only existence as a 100% human being , Just as scripture says, and even Jesus himself said it,……>I “AM” the root and “OFFSPRING” of David. Not to even mention scriptures that says he was from the root of Jesse even as King David was also, and Jesus is declared as the “offspring” of David. God promised to David that he would raise up to him a Son from his loins to rule to rule. Just as scriptures says……..…>Acts 2:30 …..> “Therefore being a prophet, and knowing God had sworn with an oath to him (David), that of the fruit of “HIS” (David’s) LOINS, according to the flesh, he (God) would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;” he (David) seeing this before spake of the resurrection of “Christ ” (the anointed one) , that his “SOUL” was not left in hell , neither his flesh did see corruption”. “This Jesus has God raised up, whereof we are witnesses. ”
peace and love to you and yours Nick……..gene
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