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Can an eternal existence (both past and future) be inherited?
No.
Let me explain my beliefs.
I don’t believe that Jesus is a co-eternal Person alongside the Father.
But im not a JW. Jesus was not created.
I believe that Jesus was literally ‘born’ of God as a literal Son in eternity past.
So in his very nature He is equal to His Father.
What God begets is God; just as what man begets is man.
Jesus is God by nature, of the same essence with the Father.AMEN!
Berean…..Jesus took on him nothing himself that made him a man, that is not what the true texts says, in fact that whole thing is improperly translated from the original, according to some scholars. It should read Jesus did not try to make himself equal with God, how? By allowing people to think he was the one doing all the miracles, that God the Father was doing through him. He could have robbed God the Father of glory, by allowing people to think he was the one doing them, instead of God the Father?
What does Hebrews say ,“HE WAS “MADE” a little lower then the angels, it also say MANKIND WAS “ALSO” MADE a little lower the the Angels, it say “exactly” the same about him as it does us.
Heb 2:7…..was talking about mankind.
Heb 2: 9 … was Talking about Jesus?
Heb 2: 11-12…..shows we are exactly like him.
All you who want and preach Jesus out to be something different then his human brothers and sisters will get your wish when you become truly seperated from him. To deny Jesus’ “humanity” is denying Jesus.
It’s amazing how you people pick and choose scriptures then add your trinitarian false teachings g to them, while all the time ignoring the rest of the scriptures that show how wrong you really are.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
Gene
YOU DO NOT PREACH THE TRUTH ABOUT WHICH JESUS REALLY IS.
YOU SET OFF LOTS OF CHRIST’S WORDS …. IT IS DISHONEST ON YOUR PART
Jesus bears the NAME of His Father Yahweh God.
Jesus is Yahweh God by nature, not identity.
I have to agree with you here.
But I have to add that divine nature doesn’t make you God because God is an identity or person, although person seems wrong given it breaks down to ‘one son’. That is why I say identity. Maybe ‘being’ is a better word.
In another example, there is one Adam (technically 2) but all are adam due to nature. But not all people are Adam, except one. That is because Adam is the Word for man which is our nature or natural state.
Likewise, we may inherit divine nature, but there is still one who is God. One God the Father. He is the one true God.
Nature doesn’t define God. God is a specific being who is the source of all, hence the Father. God is not a partnership or a divine family as many strange doctrines teach.
Berean…..Jesus took on him nothing himself that made him a man, that is not what the true texts says, in fact that whole thing is improperly translated…
The antichrist Spirit denies that Jesus Christ came in the flesh.
He emptied himself, came in the flesh, served God as an obedient man, was sinless, was sacrificed for our sakes, rose from the dead, and is seated to the right hand of God in the glory he had with him before the cosmos.
Your choice to believe the written word or not. You have free will. So your choice.
And no matter what happens, there is no one to blame but yourself.
Jesus bears the NAME of His Father Yahweh God.
Same with many others too. And none of these are God himself or necessarily God in nature for that matter.
Yeshua (Joshua), Elijah, Judah, Jonah, Emanuel, Malkiel, Michael, Penuel, Zechariah, Josiah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Zephaniah, Zechariah, Obadiah, Eliav, etc.
I scraped this list from here and there without checking that each name actually has the name of God in them due to time constraints. But many do if not all of them have the name of God in them. The list is obviously bigger than this, even if some of the names listed do not have God’s name in them.
As you can see, having God’s name embedded in your name doesn’t make you God.
hI gENE,
YOU: Berean…..Jesus took on him nothing himself that made him a man,
Gene, I TOLD YOU MANY TIMES THAT
A PERSON LIKE YOU WITH A CARNALLY MINDED INTELLIGENCE,
EARTHLY
NOT OF GOD!
CAN NEVER PERCEIVE GOD’S
TRUE SPIRITUAL PROCESS!
ESPECIALLY THE FACT THAT YOU REJECT ENTIRELY THAT
JESUS PRE-EXISTED!!!
IT IS THE FACT THAT JESUS PRE-EXISTED, THAT
HE WAS
SLAIN LIKE A LAMB FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD Rev13:8
BY WHICH TASK HIDDEN AS A SPIRIT,
ETERNAL LIFE
JESUS TOOK ONTO HIM PRECISELY
THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE
IN THEIR CURSED STATE FROM CAIN SPECIFICALLY, THE FIRSTBORN OF SATAN
LIGHT SHINES IN DARKNESS ……..
AND BECAME A MAN IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN EVEN
RIGHT FROM WITHIN HELL
Ephesians 4:9 Now that he ascended,
what is it,
but because he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
FROM WHERE THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE ORIGINATED
Gene, JESUS WAS IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN
THUS
HE PRE-EXISTED AS A SPIRIT
IN THE SAME WAY
YOU Gene AND ALL THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE
PRE-EXISTED AS SPIRITS, WHO REBELLED IN HEAVEN AS ANGELS!
NEVERTHELESS HE STILL
MAINTAINED HIS DIVINITY!
NOW READ SOMETHING WHICH FOR YOU, WITH EVERY RESPECT,
CONTRADICTS YOU AND YOUR CARNAL MIND UNDERSTANDINGS
TOTALLY FULL OF LIES!
Zechariah 3:1 And
(1) the Lord
shewed me
(2) Jesus the high priest standing before
(3) the angel of the Lord:
and Satan stood on his RIGHT HAND to be his adversary.
(1) 2And the Lord said to Satan:
(A) THE LORD rebuke thee, O Satan:
AND
(B) the Lord that chose
JERUSALEM
REBUKE YOU:
Is not this a BRAND
PLUCKED out of the fire?
3And Jesus was clothed with
FILTHY garments:
and he stood before the face of the angel.
4Who answered, and said to them that stood before him, saying:
Take away the filthy garments from him. And he said to him:
Behold I have taken away thy iniquity, and have clothed thee with change of garments.
5And he said:
Put a clean MITRE upon his head:
and they put a clean mitre upon his head,
and clothed him with garments,
and the angel of the Lord stood.
6And the angel of the Lord protested to Jesus, saying:
7 Thus saith
(C) THE LORD of hosts:
If thou wilt walk in
MY WAYS, and BEEP
MY CHARGE, thou also shalt
JUDGE MY HOUSE,
and shalt keep
MY COURTS,
and I will give thee some of them
that are now present here
TO WALK WITH THEE.
8Hear, O Jesus thou high priest, then and thy friends that dwell before thee,
for they are
PORTENDING men:
for behold I WILL BRING
MY SERVANT THE ORIENT.
9For behold the stone that I have laid before Jesus:
upon one stone there are seven eyes:
behold I will grave the graving thereof, saith
(C) THE LORD of hosts:
and I will take away the iniquity of that land in
ONE DAY
. 10In that day, saith
(C) THE LORD of hosts,
every man shell call his friend under the vine and under the fig tree.
Gene, THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE IT CLEARLY DECLARES,
MIND YOU, NOT FOR YOU AS YOU ARE STILL ON MILK I’M AFRAID!
THE PRE-EXISTENCE OF,
JESUS, AND HIS DISCIPLES!!!
PLUS THERE ‘S ALSO MENTIONED
JESUS’ BAPTISM, HIS TASK ON EARTH, HIS GOSPEL, AND
JESUS’GLORFICATION IN
JESUS CHRIST
WHO INHERITED ALL GOD’S THINGS PLUS HIS OWN AS
GODMAN ON EARTH!
John17:10 And all my things are thine, and thine are mine; and
I am glorified in them.
Peace and Love in Jesus Christ
Carmel……you do a good job preaching false things about Jesus, but a bad job preaching about what he said. You constantly seperate Jesus from the rest of his brothers and sisters, making him out to be your GOD, a human being who worship him as your God also. Something Jesus never did nor ever told us to do either. We do bow to his athuorty but just as it says, “to the glory of God the father”.
True believers worship God the Father “the “ONLY” TRUE GOD” , alongside their brother Jesus, and listen and obey what he tell us, even about the Father. “Idolaters” will not be accepted unless they repent. Do it while you have time Carmel.
Peace and love to you and yours. …………gene
Proclaimer. …..hope your not trying to say I am denying Jesus, came into his only true existence as a human being. That simply would be another of your lies. I apsolutely know Jesus was and is a human being. I have never said differently.
You on the others had say Jedis “really” did not come a a “real” human being , but a “desquished ” being to only took on a human form, but really was something else ( which you never have told us exactly what that something else was), so in that way you are denying Jesus was a second ADAM, exactly as Adam, who came into his “only” true existence as a human being.
Truth is anyone who does not see Jesus as another human being who God the Father “perfected” and exhulted, does not see the “real” Jesus at all.
Your she’ll game will not work Proclaimer, God was not working, in the man Jesus to perfect a preexisting being , he was working in a man from mankind, perfecting him. To give us an example of what he can do in us also. Jesus ..was the first “perfected human being”. Not a preexisting perfect being of somekind, that was morphed into a human body, as you people falsely preach.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………….gene
@t8
One God the Father. He is the one true God.
Finally, something we agree on.
But Jesus can be called God because He inherited His Father’s name and divine nature in the same way a human son inherits the human nature and name of his parents.
So it is perfectly fine to call Jesus God just as Thomas did.Hi Gene,
YOU: Carmel……you do a good job preaching false things about Jesus,
but a bad job preaching about what he said.
Gene, I WILL REPEAT WHAT I POSTED IN THE LAST POST AND MANY TIMES BEFORE!
YOU ARE NOT IN THE POSITION TO UNDERSTAND WHAT JESUS PREACHED,
SINCE YOU ARE
A CARNAL MINDED PERSON!
STILL LIVING ON MILK!
SIMPLY AS JESUS IN HIS CARNAL LIFE ON EARTH
MANIFESTED
GOD ALMIGHTY IN THE FLESH AND
HE MANIFESTED HIM,
ATTENTION Gene HERE IT COMES:
THROUGHOUT SPIRITUALLY IN WHATEVER HE SAID and DID!
DESPITE YOU AND Jodi, SIMPLY PROCLAIM JESUS AND HIS TEACHING ONLY
CARNALLY!
NOW JESUS SIMPLY DESTROYED HIS OWN FLESH BODY AND MANIFESTED THAT HE IS
THE TRUTH!
AS GOD THE FATHER WAS NOT IN THE POSITION TO MANIFEST HIMSELF IN HIS
SPIRITUAL STATE
ON THIS PHYSICAL TANGIBLE WORLD!
WHERE TRUTH IS ACCEPTED AS SUCH ONLY
PHYSICALLY!
HOW ON EARTH GOD COULD BE THE TRUTH IF HE IS
MYSTERIOUS, HIDDEN AND UNKNOWN???
IN THE SAME WAY, SATAN IS, WHO ALSO CONSIDERED HIMSELF GOD, AND
LIKE THE MOST HIGH!
NOW, SINCE FOR GOD THE FATHER
FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING!
AND
IT IS HIS SPIRIT WHICH GIVES LIFE TO ALL GOD’S WORK,
JESUS PRECISELY
ON THE CROSS!
MANIFESTED BOTH
THE TRUTH in His flesh
ONCE HE DIED!
AND
A SPIRIT “THE WORD” MADE FLESH,
ON HIS DEATH, SIMPLY AS JESUS
THOUGH DEAD, GUESS WHAT Gene,
GLORIFIED in HIS SPIRIT
1 Peter 3:18 Because Christ also died once for our sins,
the just for the unjust: that he might offer us to God,
being put to death indeed in the flesh,
but enlivened in the spirit,
ONE SUBSTANCE WITH
THE HOLY GHOST in Jesus’soul
Isaiah 42:1, John13:32-33 John17:1-2 John4:36-37
JESUS CHRIST
GODMAN ON EARTH!
THUS WHILE FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD EVEN UP TO THIS DAY FOR MOST OF HUMANITY!!!
OF WHICH YOU AND JODI ARE PART OF,
JESUS SIMPLY DIED!
IN ACTUAL FACT
JESUS LIVED AND ABIDED IN THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE!
AS THE SUPREME RULER OF THIS WORLD AT LEAST
TILL PENTECOST!
WHERE HE AS
THE SOLE SOVEREIGN SPIRIT ON THIS PLANET
IMPLANTED THE SEED OF HIS FIRST FRUIT,
IN EVERY CONCEPTION OCCURRED ON EARTH!
CHILDREN WERE BORN OF GOD IN EVERY BIRTH OCCURRED ON EARTH!
AND SOULS WERE GIVEN LIFE ON EVERY DEATH OCCURRED ON EARTH! John5:25 Matthew 27:52
GOD’S KINGDOM CAME, GOD’S WILL WAS ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN, SIMPLY
AS SINS WERE NOT SINS ANYMORE
in relation to Mose’ law, of which law Jesus fulfilled up to Pentecost, and Satan had no cause. Simply locked in hell.
Luke 23:34 And Jesus said: Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do….
SATAN WAS REMOVED FROM THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF THE WORLD! Luke 17:20-36
ATTENTION Gene again:
FROM THE OTHER HAND,
“THE WORD” JESUS THE SON OF MAN
RESTORED
HIS ORIGINAL SPIRIT “THE WORD” THE SON OF MAN,
BOTH IN ALL HEARTS, and
SEALED in the entire process of the world John6:27 Luke 17:34-37
FOR ETERNITY:
ETERNAL LIFE!!!
AT ALL COSTS NO MATTER WHOM AND WHAT! John8:35-36
YOU:You constantly seperate Jesus from the rest of his brothers and sisters, making him out to be your GOD, a human being who worship him as your God also.
Something Jesus never did
nor ever told us to do either.
Gene READ THE PURE TRUTH FROM THE MOUTH OF JESUS, ONLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN THE SPIRIT OF JESUS!
John4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is,
when the true adorers shall adore the Father
ATTENTION Gene;
in spirit and in truth.
ANSWERE Gene:
WHO IS SPIRIT AND TRUTH ON EARTH?
GOD IS ONLY A SPIRIT DECLARED BY JESUS HEREUNDER NO???
ALSO, NOTICE JESUS DIDN’T SAY :
THE FATHER IS SPIRIT, BUT
GOD IS SPIRIT
BY WHICH WORDS JESUS INCLUDED HIMSELF AS
THE ONLY TRUTH OF GOD!
MANIFESTED ON EARTH!
READ AND CHEW THE WORDS Gene!!!!
For the Father also seeketh such
to adore him.
24God is a spirit;
and they that adore him, must adore him
in spirit and in truth.
JESUS CHRIST
WHETHER YOU and Jodi ACCEPT IT OR NOT IT’S YOUR PIGEON!
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
Gene NOW, THANKS TO THE HOLY SPIRIT WHO GUIDED ME ,
I RECALL TO YOUR OWN WORDS FULL OF MISUNDERSTANDINGS AND LIES WHICH YOU
POSTED WELL BACK ON
FEBRUARY 18, 2020 AT 3:59 AM#850225
YOU: TO ALL ….God and his word are one
and the same being
Scripture: John 10:30 I and the Father are one.
Gene READ NOW WHAT JESUS HIMSELF DECLARED:
But I say unto you,
that every idle word that men shall speak,
they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment.
37For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
YOU: God is spirit and
Gene YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT I’M AFRAID!
GOD ‘S SPIRIT Gene, AS AN ELEMENT, IS THE TINIEST SPIRIT WHICH NO MICROSCOPE COULD BE INVENTED IN ORDER TO BE DETECTED. HIS SPIRIT IS THE SOURCE OF ALL, AND AS A SPIRIT
HE IS IN ALL WHATEVER HE CREATES BOTH GODD AND EVIL!
HE IS RIGHT NOW JUDGING HUMANITY IN THIS COVID, AS HE SEEMS FIT!
AS YOU WELL SAID HEREUNDER!
YOU: can indwell his whole creation.
THE ONLY TRUTH WHICH YOU SIMPLY REJECT IS THE ACTUAL PROCESS BY WHICH GOD
INDWELL IN HIS WHOLE CREATION!
AS I POSTED MANY TIMES, GOD COULD IN NO WAY ABIDES
DIRECTLY
WITHIN HIS CREATION, OR TO BE MORE PRECISE
IN EVERY CREATURE
NO MATTER WHOM AND WHAT,
ATTENTION PLEASE:
WITHOUT ABIDING IN HIS OWN SPIRIT AND SUBSTANCE, DISTINCT AND IN THE SAME TIME,
ONE SUBSTANCE WITH CREATURES!
FOR THE SAKE OF THE CREATURES’ FREE WILL!
NOW THIS SPIRIT, AS YOU ALSO SAID ABOVE IS CALLED
“THE WORD”
SIMPLY AS UNLESS FOR MANY REASONS WITHIN GOD’SOWN WISDOM,
THERE’S A SHIELD BETWEEN GOD AND HIS CREATURES, BOTH TO PROTECT GOD FROM BEING CONTAMINATED AND ALSO TO PROTECT CREATURES FROM BEING DESTROYED BY GOD BY THE LEAST INTENTION OF SIN!
CREATION IS NOT POSSIBLE,
IN RELATION TO GOD’S LOVE AS GOD
NEVER DESTROYS WHATEVER HE CREATES TOTALLY BUT TEMPORARY IN ORDER TO RESTORE BACK TO PERFECTION, IN THE SAME WAY, HE THROUGH HIS CHARITY, ALREADY IN
JESUS CHRIST
PERFECTED OUR FILTHY CORRUPTED FLESH BODY AND IS IN HEAVEN, AFTER ALL
ALL CREATION IS
GOD’S SPIRIT AD EXTRA
WHILE JESUS IS
GOD’S SPIRIT AD INTRA!
THUS THIS SPIRIT AUTOMATICALLY MAINTAINS IN EXISTENCE ALL WHATEVER
GOD’S CREATES !
HE IS ETERNAL LIFE
SINCE ONLY HE IS
DIRECTLY ATTACHED ONE SUBSTANCE WITH ALL CREATURES, AND ONLY BY HIM, THAT CREATURES LIVE, EVEN SATAN HIMSELF. HE IS THE SOURCE BY WHOM GOD ESTABLISHES ALL WHATEVER HE CREATES ACCORDINGLY IN
FULL JUSTICE!
HE IS THE ONLY SOURCE BY WHOM GOD COMMUNICATES IN RELATION TO THE STATE OF LOVE CREATURES ARE WITH GOD, SIMPLY AS GOD ENGRAFTED ETERNALLY THIS SPIRIT IN
THE HEART OF EVERY CREATURE!
PRECISELY
THE ACTUAL LIFE OF ALL PHYSICAL!
Jame 1:21 Wherefore casting away all uncleanness, and abundance of naughtiness, with meekness receive
the ingrafted word,
which is able to save your souls.
NOW BETWEEN GOD AND “THE WORD” THERE’S
THE HOLY GHOST, the voice, and the love of God,
THE LIFE OF ALL SPIRITS,
BOTH TO STRENGTHEN “THE WORD” BY THE FATHER AND ALSO TO PASS ONTO THE FATHER BACK HIS SPIRIT
ENRICHED BY ALL THE GOOD ACHIEVED BY THE PROCESS OF CREATION.
NOW READ, UNAWARE OF WHAT YOU SAID:
YOU: There is only one God and one mediator between God and men
the “MAN” Jesus Christ.
Just that simple
nothing difficult about it.
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???
HOW ON EARTH YOU DON’T ACCEPT
THE TRUTH MENTIONED ABOVE ???
WHAT I EXPLAINED IS NOT MY IMAGINATION, OR INVENTION, THESE ARE ALREADY DECLARED IN SCRIPTURE AND ALSO REVEALED BY OTHERS DURING THESE 2000 YEARS THAT PASSED FROM JESUS REDEMPTION!
GOD IN HIS FIRST EVER ACT
ESTABLISHED HIS OWN WORD,
A SPIRIT ETERNALLY AS HIS ABODE IN
JESUS CHRIST,
GOD’S KINGDOM YET TO BE!
THE HOUSE OF GOD!
John 14:1LET not your
HEART
be troubled.
WHY DID JESUS SAY THE ABOVE???
SIMPLE: AS JESUS FROM THE CROSS
REMOVED SATAN, AND RESTORED AND
JUSTIFIED HIS ORIGINAL PLACE PRECISELY
IN THE HUMAN HEART OF STONE, AND TRANSFORMED IT INTO
ONE NEW HEART OF FLESH!
Ezekiel 36:25 And I will pour upon you clean water,
WHAT IS THIS CLEAN WATER Gene? ISN’T JESUS’BAPTISM SIMPLY TO BAPTIZE
THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE ALL IN HIM! OF WHICH HE COLLECTED FROM THE PROCESS OF THE WORLD, SLAIN LIKE A LAMB FROM THE BEGINING OF THEWORLD Rev.13:8
and you shall be cleansed from all your filthiness, and I will cleanse you from all your idols.
26And I will give you a new heart,
and put a new spirit within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh,
and will give you a heart of flesh.
FROM WHERE HE “THE WORD” SPEAKS FOR NO USE
THE TRUTH
TO YOU Gene, WITH EVERY RESPECT!
Cont.John 14:1
You believe in God,
believe also in me.
2In my Father’s house
there are many mansions.
ALL THE PHYSICAL CREATION, WHICH AT ONE STAGE WERE ALL
SPIRITS AND ALSO PHYSICAL Genesis 1:1
BUT THROUGH THE REBEL THEY
SIMPLY LOCKED THEMSELVES AND COMPRESSED THEMSELVES AND BECAME HARD ACCORDING TO THE LOVE AND RELATION TO GOD THEY WERE/ARE IN!
BY WHOSE SPIRITS,
THE EMBODIMENT OF
“THE WORD” JESUS, THE SON OF MAN, John6:27
ETERNAL LIFE
GOD CREATED THIS WORLD,
WE ARE THE LAST STAGE OF THIS HARDNESS OF THE WORLD, FROM HERE WE RETURN BACK TO
THE JUSTIFIED SPIRIT STATE IN RELATION
TO JESUS’ SPIRITUAL COVENANT!
SINCE FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING…….. AND
GOD IS A SPIRIT and
THANKS TO “THE WORD” JESUS,
THE SON OF MAN!
ALL CREATION IS THE ABODE OF GOD!
YOU: Just believe what Jesus said
ME: NO Gene, NOT JUST BELIEVE BUT
LIVE IN WHAT YOU BELIEVE
John5:23 That all men may honour the Son,
AS
they honour the Father.
He who honoureth not the Son,
honoureth not the Father, who hath sent him.
YOU: and you shouldn’t have any trouble with understanding it.
IMO
HOW ON EARTH CAN’T YOU UNDERSTAND THE
TRUTH???
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
Danny Dabbs,
You said:
Jesus is God by nature, of the same essence with the Father.
I agree with that but I can show you that He has the “identity” as God and also YHVH,
who do you think is being referred to as “God” here:
Psalms 102
24I say: “O my God, do not take me in the midst of my days!
Your years go on through all generations.
25In the beginning You laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of Your hands.
26They will perish, but You remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
Like clothing You will change them,
27But You remain the same,
and Your years will never end.
LU
@Danny Dabbs
You said:
I believe that Jesus was literally ‘born’ of God as a literal Son in eternity past.
I agree with that but I believe the Son has eternally existed before he was born before creation in some manner and is called YHVH because of that.
LU
Berean,
You asked:
What do you think of this new name who is that of Christ?
We aren’t told what the name is in the white stone. Regarding the name for Jerusalem as “YHVH, our Righteousness,” that may be written on the saint’s forehead but it will not be their name.
Proclaimer. …..hope your not trying to say I am denying Jesus, came into his only true existence as a human being. That simply would be another of your lies. I apsolutely know Jesus was and is a human being. I have never said differently.
I say he came in the flesh. You seem to say he is the flesh.
There is a difference.
He existed in the form of God (divine nature), emptied himself, came in the flesh, died, and rose again into the glory he had with the Father before the cosmos
You say he started as flesh. That is not coming in the flesh. That is just flesh full stop.
The antichrist spirit denies Jesus Christ came in the flesh.
Let me explain my beliefs.
I don’t believe that Jesus is a co-eternal Person alongside the Father.
But im not a JW. Jesus was not created.
I believe that Jesus was literally ‘born’ of God as a literal Son in eternity past.
So in his very nature He is equal to His Father.
What God begets is God; just as what man begets is man.
Jesus is God by nature, of the same essence with the Father.I’m on board with this except one point which isn’t a deal breaker for me.
God in the Bible is the Father. If you use the word Jesus in the place of God, then the whole Bible changes. For example:
For Jesus so loved the the world that he gave his only begotten son…
See, now Jesus has a son.
It’s akin to saying we are all Adam when in truth we are adam.
We capitalize to identify and do not do that to qualify. We also add the definite article.
When speaking of nature, we do not generally capitalize or use the definite article. So Eve is not Adam, but she is adam. You are not Adam but you are adam. There’s a difference.
Jesus being divine does not make him God it makes him divine. The Word was God is actually telling us the Word was divine, not The Word was The Theos.
John 1 does not have the definite article preceeding the last mention of God in John 1:1c. All other mentions of God and Word do in John 1:1-3.
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