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GB,
So man is born without a mind, no intellect.
Then we pour into ourselves understandings and these become intellects in us that can be removed.
This is fantasyland. Why not let Jesus teach you?GB,
The words of Jesus are indeed Spirit and truth.
They were given to him by God and correctly reported
Your words can also be if you just share his words with us.But when you speak your thoughts from your carnal mind they are not Spiirt and truth
Just dead intellect.NIck…it you word that are dead intellect and you come from a Carnal mind set not me. Why can you quote someone accurately are you trying to deceive people. Maybe your not trying you just don't know what spirit you are from. When did i say we pour into ourselves good or evil when we are born, not we recieve that from the world, as John plainly said all thats in the world the lust of the flesh the lust of the eyes and the pride of life (ARE FROM THE WORLD) and that is what goes into us from berth on. And what do you think Paul meant when He said (SOW) unto the flesh and you will reap death, (SOW) unto the Spirit of GOD and you shall reap life. There is both good and evil and we can take them into us. Again you don't understand what a SPIRIT IS> imo
GB,
So is it these carnal thoughts that Jesus cast out our the actual intellects of people-in your opinion?Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 24 2008,02:26) Nick…..free intellects are the intellects of good and evil, and they go freely in and out of everyone that has a mind.
GB,
This is a cute idea
but it lacks any scriptural substance.
Intellectual rubbish?Nick…..What do you think Jesus was talking about referring to when a unclean spirit leaves a man it goes out into arid places looking for rest and later returned into the man taking more with it. Many people in life get cleaned up and later return back and the last state of that man is worse then the first. The big Problem Here Nick is you do not understand what Spirit is ( i told you before it's Intellect and is express in words) it what we are thinking and that is what defiles a man, not some demon jumping in and out of Him, But intellects or thoughts about things, these are the spirits and are expressed by words. Jesus said the WORDS) I am telling you (ARE) Spirit. So what spirit , it's WORDS and Whats WORDS it the EXPRESSION of INTELLECT> Think about it Brother. That how come we can try the Spirits to see if they are of GOD. Its not a cute idea or intellectual rubbish Nick. It's truth rather yu see it or not.
peace Nick……………..gene
GB,
A free intellect?
No.
Such things are not written of in the wisdom of God.
Speculation.Find it written and then tell us but do not take us through a three stage logic exercise as that is of man.
GB,
You said this in another thread
“Nick………Life is thoughts and is intellect,…Lets say God removed all thought and intellect from you. do you really think you would be alive? You would be dead not alive. While a persons body can be keep alive for a time and often is without consciousness, Their aware of nothing and are not in a conscious state. So in effect they are dead.”Sleep is not death is it?
Nick………Sleep is a state of the dead, Jesus told His disciples our friend Lazarus sleeps and then had to tell them because they thought he was resting and still alive, that he was dead. Sleep and death because there is no awareness in the sleep state and that also applies with with death state. They are synonymous. If i removed all you intellect and thoughts, you would be as good as dead. a sombre at best.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 08 2008,12:09) GB,
A free intellect?
No.
Such things are not written of in the wisdom of God.
Speculation.Find it written and then tell us but do not take us through a three stage logic exercise as that is of man.
If we are free to choose Christ, then do we not have a free intellect?Nick ….why does it say for he came and lead captive a host of captives, and again what soever a man is overcome by he is a slave to. And why did Jesus come to set the (CAPTIVES) FREE the seeing they has a SO-CALLED “FREE WILL” and are able to make (FREE) right Choices. And what of YOU (shall Know) the TRUTH and THE truth shall set you free, Seeing according to you we are ALL FREE TO Chose anyway. Scriptur does not support you philosophy of “FREE WILL” at all. There is a will in man but it is far influenced WILL far from FREE.
peace……………………gene
GB,
So these free intellects you say jump in and out of people who are not careful about what they hear and read, do they causes multiple personality disorders do you think?Nick………who said they jump in and out of people, that what you believe about Satan remember, not me. But we certainly can take into us Evil intellects or GOOD by exposing ourself to them, and yes these intellects or Spirits can cause multiple personality disorders. All life is a function of the MIND and the MIND is a function of the SPIRIT (though expressing it intellect) in it. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that just plain simple (LOGIC). Of course you have expressed Logic has nothing to do with SCRIPTURE RIGHT.
love and peace to you and yours………………………gene
Nick….even Bacteria show the intellect of God in them, Bacteria or you don't have to agree with anything as far as i am concerned. You or bacteria can't change the truth that God's intellect is in all his creation. only the blind can't see that. Are you so blind you can't understand that. I thought you believed in scripture Nick.
peace ………..gene
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