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Quote (abe @ June 11 2013,03:31) Hi Kerwin, (Quote)
Please explain your understanding of what you perceive is two Spirits and I perceive to be one.Amen.
Is the spirit God breathed into Adam “the Holy Spirit”?I say “NO”, meaning there is more than one spirit.
Quote (kerwin @ June 12 2013,07:05) Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2013,05:54) Quote (abe @ June 11 2013,15:31) Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,00:08) Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,07:07) Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,05:49) Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,04:41) Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,19:33) Quote (terraricca @ June 10 2013,19:00) Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,10:49) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,19:52) Quote (kerwin @ June 08 2013,21:08) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,01:42) Okay. So now tell me how the throne on which God sits can exist WITHIN the God who sits on it.
Mike,You have already answered that question when you answered how God exists within the throne he is said to sit upon.
The throne of the federal US government is Washington DC and its footstool is the states and territories of the United States. It exists within them and they exist within it.
Kerwin,I'm hearing: The throne of an entity exists within the territory that entity rules. With this I agree.
But does the throne of any king exist within THE KING who sits on that throne?
Mike,You already stated that God's throne is heaven means God rules from heaven and not that he sits on heaven. Earth is his footstool similar in that it is lower than the seat of the throne but still connected.
Paul's words at Athens remain that in God we live, move, and have our being.
KPaul says ;that a true believer lives according to God's law and obey Christ set rules ,and so as life according to it ,
but God does not live in them nor Christ but it is their WAYS AND rules THAT LIVES IN THEM ,RIGHT
YES TO MY UNDERSTANDING ,
T,It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers so they love as God loves. I do not see evidence that God's presence dwells in them.
KERWINshow me that the holy spirit dwells in men
and that we also can have the same holy spirit dwell in us as mare believers ,???
T,Ezekiel 37:14
King James Version (KJV)14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.
1 Corinthians 2:12
King James Version (KJV)12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
kBUT THAT SPIRIT IS NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT , it is the knowledge of God's way and how to please him ,
what is contrary to the world and the flesh ,
it seems you do not know what his the holy spirit right
T,Please explain your understanding of what you perceive is two Spirits and I perceive to be one.
Hi Kerwin,(Quote)
Please explain your understanding of what you perceive is two Spirits and I perceive to be one.Amen.
Peace brother.
abebefore God almighty their are only two spirit in humanity that can be seen and practice ;
1) the truth of God
2) the spirit of the world (Satan spirit of adversary to all what God stands for )
T,You seem to be saying that the Holy Spirit is not the Spirit we are instructed to live by. How do you come up with that or am I misunderstanding you?
KQuote You seem to be saying that the Holy Spirit is not the Spirit we are instructed to live by show me in scriptures that it is the HOLY SPIRIT that we are instructed to live by
Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,15:54) Quote (abe @ June 11 2013,15:31) Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,00:08) Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,07:07) Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,05:49) Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,04:41) Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,19:33) Quote (terraricca @ June 10 2013,19:00) Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,10:49) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,19:52) Quote (kerwin @ June 08 2013,21:08) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,01:42) Okay. So now tell me how the throne on which God sits can exist WITHIN the God who sits on it.
Mike,You have already answered that question when you answered how God exists within the throne he is said to sit upon.
The throne of the federal US government is Washington DC and its footstool is the states and territories of the United States. It exists within them and they exist within it.
Kerwin,I'm hearing: The throne of an entity exists within the territory that entity rules. With this I agree.
But does the throne of any king exist within THE KING who sits on that throne?
Mike,You already stated that God's throne is heaven means God rules from heaven and not that he sits on heaven. Earth is his footstool similar in that it is lower than the seat of the throne but still connected.
Paul's words at Athens remain that in God we live, move, and have our being.
KPaul says ;that a true believer lives according to God's law and obey Christ set rules ,and so as life according to it ,
but God does not live in them nor Christ but it is their WAYS AND rules THAT LIVES IN THEM ,RIGHT
YES TO MY UNDERSTANDING ,
T,It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers so they love as God loves. I do not see evidence that God's presence dwells in them.
KERWINshow me that the holy spirit dwells in men
and that we also can have the same holy spirit dwell in us as mare believers ,???
T,Ezekiel 37:14
King James Version (KJV)14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.
1 Corinthians 2:12
King James Version (KJV)12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
kBUT THAT SPIRIT IS NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT , it is the knowledge of God's way and how to please him ,
what is contrary to the world and the flesh ,
it seems you do not know what his the holy spirit right
T,Please explain your understanding of what you perceive is two Spirits and I perceive to be one.
Hi Kerwin,(Quote)
Please explain your understanding of what you perceive is two Spirits and I perceive to be one.Amen.
Peace brother.
abebefore God almighty their are only two spirit in humanity that can be seen and practice ;
1) the truth of God
2) the spirit of the world (Satan spirit of adversary to all what God stands for )
Hi T,(Quote)
before God almighty their are only two spirit in humanity that can be seen and practice ;1) the truth of God
2) the spirit of the world (Satan spirit of adversary to all what God stands for )
Do you have a Scripture for this?
Peace.
Quote (abe @ June 12 2013,08:14) Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,15:54) Quote (abe @ June 11 2013,15:31) Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,00:08) Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,07:07) Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,05:49) Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,04:41) Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,19:33) Quote (terraricca @ June 10 2013,19:00) Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,10:49) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,19:52) Quote (kerwin @ June 08 2013,21:08) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,01:42) Okay. So now tell me how the throne on which God sits can exist WITHIN the God who sits on it.
Mike,You have already answered that question when you answered how God exists within the throne he is said to sit upon.
The throne of the federal US government is Washington DC and its footstool is the states and territories of the United States. It exists within them and they exist within it.
Kerwin,I'm hearing: The throne of an entity exists within the territory that entity rules. With this I agree.
But does the throne of any king exist within THE KING who sits on that throne?
Mike,You already stated that God's throne is heaven means God rules from heaven and not that he sits on heaven. Earth is his footstool similar in that it is lower than the seat of the throne but still connected.
Paul's words at Athens remain that in God we live, move, and have our being.
KPaul says ;that a true believer lives according to God's law and obey Christ set rules ,and so as life according to it ,
but God does not live in them nor Christ but it is their WAYS AND rules THAT LIVES IN THEM ,RIGHT
YES TO MY UNDERSTANDING ,
T,It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers so they love as God loves. I do not see evidence that God's presence dwells in them.
KERWINshow me that the holy spirit dwells in men
and that we also can have the same holy spirit dwell in us as mare believers ,???
T,Ezekiel 37:14
King James Version (KJV)14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.
1 Corinthians 2:12
King James Version (KJV)12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
kBUT THAT SPIRIT IS NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT , it is the knowledge of God's way and how to please him ,
what is contrary to the world and the flesh ,
it seems you do not know what his the holy spirit right
T,Please explain your understanding of what you perceive is two Spirits and I perceive to be one.
Hi Kerwin,(Quote)
Please explain your understanding of what you perceive is two Spirits and I perceive to be one.Amen.
Peace brother.
abebefore God almighty their are only two spirit in humanity that can be seen and practice ;
1) the truth of God
2) the spirit of the world (Satan spirit of adversary to all what God stands for )
Hi T,(Quote)
before God almighty their are only two spirit in humanity that can be seen and practice ;1) the truth of God
2) the spirit of the world (Satan spirit of adversary to all what God stands for )
Do you have a Scripture for this?
Peace.
abe
Job 1:1 In the land of Uz there lived a man whose name was Job. This man was blameless and upright; he feared God and shunned evil.do you have one that says it is not so
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2013,07:28) Quote (abe @ June 11 2013,03:31) Hi Kerwin, (Quote)
Please explain your understanding of what you perceive is two Spirits and I perceive to be one.Amen.
Is the spirit God breathed into Adam “the Holy Spirit”?I say “NO”, meaning there is more than one spirit.
Mike,God states it is his Spirit that strives against the flesh to maintain life. It would seem his Spirit has more than one aspects.
T,
The holy spirit is the Spirit God gives believers.
1 Thessalonians 4:8
King James Version (KJV)8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.
Ephesians 4:30
King James Version (KJV)30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Quote (kerwin @ June 12 2013,09:27) T, The holy spirit is the Spirit God gives believers.
1 Thessalonians 4:8
King James Version (KJV)8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.
Ephesians 4:30
King James Version (KJV)30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Kerwindid you received it ? and if yes tell me what it is
To all………The HOLY (set aside) Spirit was not given to man in the begining it was poured out in a general sense after the Day of Pentocost on those God has Chosen to recieve it, through Christ Jesus. Not all have it, but those who do, reconize the Truth when they Hear it, becasue that Spirit giving us, gives us (cognate intellect) to percieve the Truth when we hear it. Therefore it says ,
1Cor 2:12-15
Now we hacve recieved not the spirit of the world. but the spirt of God: (why) that we might “KNOW” the things that are freely given to us of, or, from God. (13) which things also we speak, not in the words which mans wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Spirit teaches: comparing spiritual things with spritiual. (14) But the natural man recieves not the things of the Spirit of GOd: for they are foolishness unto him: neither “CAN” he know them , because they are “spiritually” decerned. (15) But he that is “spiritual” judges “all” things, yet he himself is judged of “no” man.
peace and love to you all………………………..gene
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2013,12:28)
Is the spirit God breathed into Adam “the Holy Spirit”?I say “NO”, meaning there is more than one spirit.
Hi Mike,I say “Yes”, because Jesus restores us to our pre-fallen state. “The key” is found in John 20:22…
“he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the HolySpirit:” (John 20:22)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ June 12 2013,17:39) Quote (kerwin @ June 12 2013,09:27) T, The holy spirit is the Spirit God gives believers.
1 Thessalonians 4:8
King James Version (KJV)8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.
Ephesians 4:30
King James Version (KJV)30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Kerwindid you received it ? and if yes tell me what it is
T,Scripture teaches us that those that are living by the Spirit do not sin. It is also called the Councilor, which teaches us to obey all things.
As for me, by their fruits you will know them.
Quote (kerwin @ June 12 2013,23:18) Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2013,17:39) Quote (kerwin @ June 12 2013,09:27) T, The holy spirit is the Spirit God gives believers.
1 Thessalonians 4:8
King James Version (KJV)8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.
Ephesians 4:30
King James Version (KJV)30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Kerwindid you received it ? and if yes tell me what it is
T,Scripture teaches us that those that are living by the Spirit do not sin. It is also called the Councilor, which teaches us to obey all things.
As for me, by their fruits you will know them.
kerwinso by your words I assume you do not have the holy spirit ,
and at what point you think someone can receive it ,
is it after he acknowledge the scriptures to be the true words of God or before
is it while he contest the written word of God ,and follow old religion opinions
or is it after people have accepted the written word of God for what it is really ,and so believe it with all their heart ,mind and actions ,??? and so the holy spirit give accordingly become an comforter to those who have the true faith,
Quote (terraricca @ June 13 2013,04:09) Quote (kerwin @ June 12 2013,23:18) Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2013,17:39) Quote (kerwin @ June 12 2013,09:27) T, The holy spirit is the Spirit God gives believers.
1 Thessalonians 4:8
King James Version (KJV)8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.
Ephesians 4:30
King James Version (KJV)30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Kerwindid you received it ? and if yes tell me what it is
T,Scripture teaches us that those that are living by the Spirit do not sin. It is also called the Councilor, which teaches us to obey all things.
As for me, by their fruits you will know them.
kerwinso by your words I assume you do not have the holy spirit ,
and at what point you think someone can receive it ,
is it after he acknowledge the scriptures to be the true words of God or before
is it while he contest the written word of God ,and follow old religion opinions
or is it after people have accepted the written word of God for what it is really ,and so believe it with all their heart ,mind and actions ,??? and so the holy spirit give accordingly become an comforter to those who have the true faith,
T,Briefly,
You must believe God can, is willing, and will make you righteous as he righteous.
You must believe God gave the power and authority to do so to Jesus Christ and that Jesus will do it.
You must believe God's promise that you will become righteous as he is righteous.
You must enter, sign, a contract with God though complete immersion of water via the authority of Jesus.Quote (kerwin @ June 13 2013,06:39) Quote (terraricca @ June 13 2013,04:09) Quote (kerwin @ June 12 2013,23:18) Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2013,17:39) Quote (kerwin @ June 12 2013,09:27) T, The holy spirit is the Spirit God gives believers.
1 Thessalonians 4:8
King James Version (KJV)8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.
Ephesians 4:30
King James Version (KJV)30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Kerwindid you received it ? and if yes tell me what it is
T,Scripture teaches us that those that are living by the Spirit do not sin. It is also called the Councilor, which teaches us to obey all things.
As for me, by their fruits you will know them.
kerwinso by your words I assume you do not have the holy spirit ,
and at what point you think someone can receive it ,
is it after he acknowledge the scriptures to be the true words of God or before
is it while he contest the written word of God ,and follow old religion opinions
or is it after people have accepted the written word of God for what it is really ,and so believe it with all their heart ,mind and actions ,??? and so the holy spirit give accordingly become an comforter to those who have the true faith,
T,Briefly,
You must believe God can, is willing, and will make you righteous as he righteous.
You must believe God gave the power and authority to do so to Jesus Christ and that Jesus will do it.
You must believe God's promise that you will become righteous as he is righteous.
You must enter, sign, a contract with God though complete immersion of water via the authority of Jesus.
Kbriefly
not even close ,but if this is according to scriptures then where are they I would like to know your foundation
Quote (terraricca @ June 13 2013,07:25) Quote (kerwin @ June 13 2013,06:39) Quote (terraricca @ June 13 2013,04:09) Quote (kerwin @ June 12 2013,23:18) Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2013,17:39) Quote (kerwin @ June 12 2013,09:27) T, The holy spirit is the Spirit God gives believers.
1 Thessalonians 4:8
King James Version (KJV)8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.
Ephesians 4:30
King James Version (KJV)30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Kerwindid you received it ? and if yes tell me what it is
T,Scripture teaches us that those that are living by the Spirit do not sin. It is also called the Councilor, which teaches us to obey all things.
As for me, by their fruits you will know them.
kerwinso by your words I assume you do not have the holy spirit ,
and at what point you think someone can receive it ,
is it after he acknowledge the scriptures to be the true words of God or before
is it while he contest the written word of God ,and follow old religion opinions
or is it after people have accepted the written word of God for what it is really ,and so believe it with all their heart ,mind and actions ,??? and so the holy spirit give accordingly become an comforter to those who have the true faith,
T,Briefly,
You must believe God can, is willing, and will make you righteous as he righteous.
You must believe God gave the power and authority to do so to Jesus Christ and that Jesus will do it.
You must believe God's promise that you will become righteous as he is righteous.
You must enter, sign, a contract with God though complete immersion of water via the authority of Jesus.
Kbriefly
not even close ,but if this is according to scriptures then where are they I would like to know your foundation
T,Which ones do you not believe?
Quote (kerwin @ June 13 2013,11:04) Quote (terraricca @ June 13 2013,07:25) Quote (kerwin @ June 13 2013,06:39) Quote (terraricca @ June 13 2013,04:09) Quote (kerwin @ June 12 2013,23:18) Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2013,17:39) Quote (kerwin @ June 12 2013,09:27) T, The holy spirit is the Spirit God gives believers.
1 Thessalonians 4:8
King James Version (KJV)8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.
Ephesians 4:30
King James Version (KJV)30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Kerwindid you received it ? and if yes tell me what it is
T,Scripture teaches us that those that are living by the Spirit do not sin. It is also called the Councilor, which teaches us to obey all things.
As for me, by their fruits you will know them.
kerwinso by your words I assume you do not have the holy spirit ,
and at what point you think someone can receive it ,
is it after he acknowledge the scriptures to be the true words of God or before
is it while he contest the written word of God ,and follow old religion opinions
or is it after people have accepted the written word of God for what it is really ,and so believe it with all their heart ,mind and actions ,??? and so the holy spirit give accordingly become an comforter to those who have the true faith,
T,Briefly,
You must believe God can, is willing, and will make you righteous as he righteous.
You must believe God gave the power and authority to do so to Jesus Christ and that Jesus will do it.
You must believe God's promise that you will become righteous as he is righteous.
You must enter, sign, a contract with God though complete immersion of water via the authority of Jesus.
Kbriefly
not even close ,but if this is according to scriptures then where are they I would like to know your foundation
T,Which ones do you not believe?
Kthis part ; and that Jesus will do it.
You must believe God can, is willing, and will make you righteous as he righteous.IS THIS WHAT IT TAKES
You must enter, sign, a contract with God though complete immersion of water via the authority of Jesus.
THIS NEEDS SCRIPTURES
T,
Quote
this part ; and that Jesus will do it..
John 7:37
King James Version (KJV)37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
Matthew 11:28-30
King James Version (KJV)28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.Quote You must believe God can, is willing, and will make you righteous as he righteous.IS THIS WHAT IT TAKES Yes as that is faith and without faith you cannot expect to receive anything.
Quote You must enter, sign, a contract with God though complete immersion of water via the authority of Jesus. THIS NEEDS SCRIPTURES
contract = covenant.
Romans 6:3-5
King James Version (KJV)3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:Quote (kerwin @ June 13 2013,22:57) T, Quote
this part ; and that Jesus will do it..
John 7:37
King James Version (KJV)37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
Matthew 11:28-30
King James Version (KJV)28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.Quote You must believe God can, is willing, and will make you righteous as he righteous.IS THIS WHAT IT TAKES Yes as that is faith and without faith you cannot expect to receive anything.
Quote You must enter, sign, a contract with God though complete immersion of water via the authority of Jesus. THIS NEEDS SCRIPTURES
contract = covenant.
Romans 6:3-5
King James Version (KJV)3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
KerwinJn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”Jas 1:6 But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind.
Jas 1:7 That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord;
Jas 1:8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all he does.Jas 1:12 Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.
Jas 1:14 but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed.
Jas 1:15 Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.Jas 1:18 He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created.
Jas 1:21 Therefore, get rid of all moral filth and the evil that is so prevalent and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save you.
Jas 1:25 But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does.
Jas 1:26 If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthlessJas 2:5 Listen, my dear brothers: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom
he promised those who love him?Jas 2:18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.”
Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.
Jas 2:19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
Jas 2:20 You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless ?
Jas 2:21 Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar?
Jas 2:22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did.
Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called God’s friend.
Jas 2:24 You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.Jas 3:1 Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.
Jas 3:14 But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truth.
Jas 3:15 Such “wisdom” does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, of the devil.Jas 3:17 But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere.
Jas 3:18 Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness.Jas 4:7 Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Jas 4:8 Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,21:19) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2013,07:28) Quote (abe @ June 11 2013,03:31) Hi Kerwin, (Quote)
Please explain your understanding of what you perceive is two Spirits and I perceive to be one.Amen.
Is the spirit God breathed into Adam “the Holy Spirit”?I say “NO”, meaning there is more than one spirit.
Mike,God states it is his Spirit that strives against the flesh to maintain life. It would seem his Spirit has more than one aspects.
So then since EVERYBODY in existence has always had God's Holy Spirit from the moment they existed, what was the big deal with Pentecost?You are saying that the evil men in scripture (and this world) live by the same Holy Spirit that is said to be a GIFT to only certain ones.
Hmmmm…………….
Quote (Ed J @ June 12 2013,10:59) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2013,12:28)
Is the spirit God breathed into Adam “the Holy Spirit”?I say “NO”, meaning there is more than one spirit.
Hi Mike,I say “Yes”, because Jesus restores us to our pre-fallen state. “The key” is found in John 20:22…
“he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the HolySpirit:” (John 20:22)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed,Every human being since Adam has lived by God's spirit. When humans die, that spirit goes back to Him who gave it, right?
Are you saying THAT is the Holy Spirit? The one all men live by? The one that goes back to God when we die?
Are you sure?
Quote (kerwin @ June 12 2013,11:18) T, Scripture teaches us that those that are living by the Spirit do not sin.
But ALL men live by spirit on loan from God, Kerwin. It goes back to God when we die, right? And you seem to be saying this spirit by which we all live is the “Holy Spirit”, right?So how then can you now say only certain people live by this spirit?
What is the spirit by which the REST OF US live? Is it also “the Holy Spirit”?
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