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    terraricca
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    Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,10:49)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,19:52)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 08 2013,21:08)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,01:42)
    Okay.  So now tell me how the throne on which God sits can exist WITHIN the God who sits on it.


    Mike,

    You have already answered that question when you answered how God exists within the throne he is said to sit upon.  

    The throne of the federal US government is Washington DC and its footstool is the states and territories of the United States.   It exists within them and they exist within it.


    Kerwin,

    I'm hearing:  The throne of an entity exists within the territory that entity rules.  With this I agree.

    But does the throne of any king exist within THE KING who sits on that throne?


    Mike,

    You already stated that God's throne is heaven means God rules from heaven and not that he sits on heaven.  Earth is his footstool similar in that it is lower than the seat of the throne but still connected.

    Paul's words at Athens remain that in God we live, move, and have our being.


    K

    Paul says ;that a true believer lives according to God's law and obey Christ set rules ,and so as life according to it ,

    but God does not live in them nor Christ but it is their WAYS AND rules THAT LIVES IN THEM ,RIGHT ??? YES TO MY UNDERSTANDING ,

    #347212
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ June 10 2013,19:00)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,10:49)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,19:52)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 08 2013,21:08)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,01:42)
    Okay.  So now tell me how the throne on which God sits can exist WITHIN the God who sits on it.


    Mike,

    You have already answered that question when you answered how God exists within the throne he is said to sit upon.  

    The throne of the federal US government is Washington DC and its footstool is the states and territories of the United States.   It exists within them and they exist within it.


    Kerwin,

    I'm hearing:  The throne of an entity exists within the territory that entity rules.  With this I agree.

    But does the throne of any king exist within THE KING who sits on that throne?


    Mike,

    You already stated that God's throne is heaven means God rules from heaven and not that he sits on heaven.  Earth is his footstool similar in that it is lower than the seat of the throne but still connected.

    Paul's words at Athens remain that in God we live, move, and have our being.


    K

    Paul says ;that a true believer lives according to God's law and obey Christ set rules ,and so as life according to it ,

    but God does not live in them nor Christ but it is their WAYS AND rules THAT LIVES IN THEM ,RIGHT ??? YES TO MY UNDERSTANDING ,


    T,

    It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers so they love as God loves. I do not see evidence that God's presence dwells in them.

    #347219
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Kerwin……..Paul said know you not that your bodies are the temple of the LIViNG GOD God's fullness dwelt in Jesus Christ, and Just as Jesus said, “GOD is a SPIRIT”, and His Spirit is Holy. Where God's Spirit is So is God's Pesence there also. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours……………………………………….gene

    #347223
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 10 2013,20:26)
    Kerwin……..Paul said know you not that your bodies are the temple of the LIViNG GOD God's fullness dwelt in Jesus Christ, and Just as Jesus said, “GOD is a SPIRIT”,  and His Spirit is Holy. Where God's Spirit is So is God's Pesence there also. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours……………………………………….gene


    Gene,

    You may be correct but I perceive God's presence being in someone when he literally speaks through them. I have only known him to do it through angels and other things. For example.

    Job 38:1
    King James Version (KJV)

    38 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

    #347230
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,19:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 10 2013,19:00)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,10:49)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,19:52)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 08 2013,21:08)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,01:42)
    Okay.  So now tell me how the throne on which God sits can exist WITHIN the God who sits on it.


    Mike,

    You have already answered that question when you answered how God exists within the throne he is said to sit upon.  

    The throne of the federal US government is Washington DC and its footstool is the states and territories of the United States.   It exists within them and they exist within it.


    Kerwin,

    I'm hearing:  The throne of an entity exists within the territory that entity rules.  With this I agree.

    But does the throne of any king exist within THE KING who sits on that throne?


    Mike,

    You already stated that God's throne is heaven means God rules from heaven and not that he sits on heaven.  Earth is his footstool similar in that it is lower than the seat of the throne but still connected.

    Paul's words at Athens remain that in God we live, move, and have our being.


    K

    Paul says ;that a true believer lives according to God's law and obey Christ set rules ,and so as life according to it ,

    but God does not live in them nor Christ but it is their WAYS AND rules THAT LIVES IN THEM ,RIGHT ??? YES TO MY UNDERSTANDING ,


    T,

    It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers so they love as God loves.  I do not see evidence that God's presence dwells in them.


    KERWIN

    show me that the holy spirit dwells in men ???

    and that we also can have the same holy spirit dwell in us as mare believers ,???

    #347232
    terraricca
    Participant

    K

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    It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers so they love as God loves

    CAN YOU LOVE AS GOD LOVES Kerwin ???

    #347242
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,04:46)
    K

    Quote
    It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers so they love as God loves

    CAN YOU LOVE AS GOD LOVES Kerwin ???


    T,

    Only if you live by his Spirit and that can only be done by faith.

    #347246
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,04:41)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,19:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 10 2013,19:00)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,10:49)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,19:52)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 08 2013,21:08)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,01:42)
    Okay.  So now tell me how the throne on which God sits can exist WITHIN the God who sits on it.


    Mike,

    You have already answered that question when you answered how God exists within the throne he is said to sit upon.  

    The throne of the federal US government is Washington DC and its footstool is the states and territories of the United States.   It exists within them and they exist within it.


    Kerwin,

    I'm hearing:  The throne of an entity exists within the territory that entity rules.  With this I agree.

    But does the throne of any king exist within THE KING who sits on that throne?


    Mike,

    You already stated that God's throne is heaven means God rules from heaven and not that he sits on heaven.  Earth is his footstool similar in that it is lower than the seat of the throne but still connected.

    Paul's words at Athens remain that in God we live, move, and have our being.


    K

    Paul says ;that a true believer lives according to God's law and obey Christ set rules ,and so as life according to it ,

    but God does not live in them nor Christ but it is their WAYS AND rules THAT LIVES IN THEM ,RIGHT ??? YES TO MY UNDERSTANDING ,


    T,

    It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers so they love as God loves.  I do not see evidence that God's presence dwells in them.


    KERWIN

    show me that the holy spirit dwells in men ???

    and that we also can have the same holy spirit dwell in us as mare believers ,???


    T,

    Ezekiel 37:14
    King James Version (KJV)

    14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

    1 Corinthians 2:12
    King James Version (KJV)

    12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

    #347263
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,05:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,04:41)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,19:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 10 2013,19:00)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,10:49)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,19:52)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 08 2013,21:08)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,01:42)
    Okay.  So now tell me how the throne on which God sits can exist WITHIN the God who sits on it.


    Mike,

    You have already answered that question when you answered how God exists within the throne he is said to sit upon.  

    The throne of the federal US government is Washington DC and its footstool is the states and territories of the United States.   It exists within them and they exist within it.


    Kerwin,

    I'm hearing:  The throne of an entity exists within the territory that entity rules.  With this I agree.

    But does the throne of any king exist within THE KING who sits on that throne?


    Mike,

    You already stated that God's throne is heaven means God rules from heaven and not that he sits on heaven.  Earth is his footstool similar in that it is lower than the seat of the throne but still connected.

    Paul's words at Athens remain that in God we live, move, and have our being.


    K

    Paul says ;that a true believer lives according to God's law and obey Christ set rules ,and so as life according to it ,

    but God does not live in them nor Christ but it is their WAYS AND rules THAT LIVES IN THEM ,RIGHT ??? YES TO MY UNDERSTANDING ,


    T,

    It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers so they love as God loves.  I do not see evidence that God's presence dwells in them.


    KERWIN

    show me that the holy spirit dwells in men ???

    and that we also can have the same holy spirit dwell in us as mare believers ,???


    T,

    Ezekiel 37:14
    King James Version (KJV)

    14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

    1 Corinthians 2:12
    King James Version (KJV)

    12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.


    k

    BUT THAT SPIRIT IS NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT , it is the knowledge of God's way and how to please him ,

    what is contrary to the world and the flesh ,

    it seems you do not know what his the holy spirit right ???

    #347264
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Kerwin,

    In the last two to three years, I've sadly watched you go from a student seriously searching for truth to a man that just makes up his own truth as he goes – when the scriptural truth doesn't suit him.  There are SO MANY scriptures that say God dwells in heaven (not “heaven dwells in God”).  There are many that say God looks upon us humans FROM His dwelling place IN HEAVEN.  There are so many that ask God to hear FROM HEAVEN when they cry out to Him IN HEAVEN.

    You are very close to becoming Charles, Kerwin.

    Your latest claims make me think that your sanity is slipping away.  I will pray for you.

    #347265
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,05:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,04:46)
    K

    Quote
    It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers so they love as God loves

    CAN YOU LOVE AS GOD LOVES Kerwin ???


    T,

    Only if you live by his Spirit and that can only be done by faith.


    K

    does God as faith ??? no

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    Only if you live by his Spirit

    living by the spirit is what to you kerwin ???

    #347270
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2013,04:18)

    Quote (abe @ June 07 2013,10:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,19:40)

    Quote (abe @ June 07 2013,14:11)
    Hi T,

    (Quote)
    PS 148:13
    Let them praise the name of the LORD,
    For His name alone is exalted;
    His glory is above earth and heaven.

    look here the last verse THIS IS WERE THE GLORY OF GOD EXALTED AN ALSO HIS .

    You say the Glory   of   God    is God?

    Peace.


    Hi Abe,

    Does that mean “God's Glory” is in a different place?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed,

    1Jn.1:5   This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.

    that God is Light,

    Rev.21:23   And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God is its light, and the Lamb is its lamp.

    the glory of God is its light,

    Rev.22:5    And there will no longer be any night; and they will not have need of the light of a lamp nor the light of the sun, because the Lord God will illumine them; and they will reign forever and ever.

    not have  Need  of the     * Light of a Lamp*

    because the Lord God will   *illumine*   them;

    Gen.1:3   And God said, Let there be    light:   and there was    light.

    Peace brother….


    abe

    religion as blind you ,your answer is proof of that ,

    the glory of God is not light  ,and God is not created as you seem to believe ,

    the glory of God is its light,

    Gen.1:3   And God said, Let there be    light:   and there was    light.

    Quote
    not have  Need  of the     * Light of a Lamp*

    because the Lord God will   *illumine*   them;

    those quotes do not mean light as the brightness of some thing ,BUT THE TRUE KNOWLEDGE THAT SUSTAINS LIFE

    JUST AS ; Jn 1:9 The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.


    Hi T,

    Reread the verses.

    This time ask your God and Father through His Son to give you Understanding.

    Peace.

    #347279
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (abe @ June 11 2013,07:28)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2013,04:18)

    Quote (abe @ June 07 2013,10:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,19:40)

    Quote (abe @ June 07 2013,14:11)
    Hi T,

    (Quote)
    PS 148:13
    Let them praise the name of the LORD,
    For His name alone is exalted;
    His glory is above earth and heaven.

    look here the last verse THIS IS WERE THE GLORY OF GOD EXALTED AN ALSO HIS .

    You say the Glory   of   God    is God?

    Peace.


    Hi Abe,

    Does that mean “God's Glory” is in a different place?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed,

    1Jn.1:5   This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.

    that God is Light,

    Rev.21:23   And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God is its light, and the Lamb is its lamp.

    the glory of God is its light,

    Rev.22:5    And there will no longer be any night; and they will not have need of the light of a lamp nor the light of the sun, because the Lord God will illumine them; and they will reign forever and ever.

    not have  Need  of the     * Light of a Lamp*

    because the Lord God will   *illumine*   them;

    Gen.1:3   And God said, Let there be    light:   and there was    light.

    Peace brother….


    abe

    religion as blind you ,your answer is proof of that ,

    the glory of God is not light  ,and God is not created as you seem to believe ,

    the glory of God is its light,

    Gen.1:3   And God said, Let there be    light:   and there was    light.

    Quote
    not have  Need  of the     * Light of a Lamp*

    because the Lord God will   *illumine*   them;

    those quotes do not mean light as the brightness of some thing ,BUT THE TRUE KNOWLEDGE THAT SUSTAINS LIFE

    JUST AS ; Jn 1:9 The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.


    Hi T,

    Reread the verses.

    This time ask your God and Father through His Son to give you Understanding.

    Peace.


    abe

    1Jn 1:5 This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.
    1Jn 1:6 If we claim to have fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the truth.
    1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
    1Jn 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

    what is it that John talks about and what do you think the light means because it is a metaphor and so is the darkness,right so what does it mean ???

    #347300
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,07:10)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,05:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,04:46)
    K

    Quote
    It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers so they love as God loves

    CAN YOU LOVE AS GOD LOVES Kerwin ???


    T,

    Only if you live by his Spirit and that can only be done by faith.


    K

    does God as faith ??? no

    Quote
    Only if you live by his Spirit

    living by the spirit is what to you kerwin ???


    T,

    God does not have free will in his choice to live by the Spirit.

    Those that live by the Spirit fulfill the law of love.

    #347301
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2013,07:09)
    Kerwin,

    In the last two to three years, I've sadly watched you go from a student seriously searching for truth to a man that just makes up his own truth as he goes – when the scriptural truth doesn't suit him.  There are SO MANY scriptures that say God dwells in heaven (not “heaven dwells in God”).  There are many that say God looks upon us humans FROM His dwelling place IN HEAVEN.  There are so many that ask God to hear FROM HEAVEN when they cry out to Him IN HEAVEN.

    You are very close to becoming Charles, Kerwin.

    Your latest claims make me think that your sanity is slipping away.  I will pray for you.


    Mike,

    The seat of God's power is in heaven and his presence is where he chooses it to be whether in a fiery bush, in a whirlwind, or in an angel who walks within Eden.

    #347302
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,07:07)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,05:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,04:41)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,19:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 10 2013,19:00)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,10:49)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,19:52)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 08 2013,21:08)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,01:42)
    Okay.  So now tell me how the throne on which God sits can exist WITHIN the God who sits on it.


    Mike,

    You have already answered that question when you answered how God exists within the throne he is said to sit upon.  

    The throne of the federal US government is Washington DC and its footstool is the states and territories of the United States.   It exists within them and they exist within it.


    Kerwin,

    I'm hearing:  The throne of an entity exists within the territory that entity rules.  With this I agree.

    But does the throne of any king exist within THE KING who sits on that throne?


    Mike,

    You already stated that God's throne is heaven means God rules from heaven and not that he sits on heaven.  Earth is his footstool similar in that it is lower than the seat of the throne but still connected.

    Paul's words at Athens remain that in God we live, move, and have our being.


    K

    Paul says ;that a true believer lives according to God's law and obey Christ set rules ,and so as life according to it ,

    but God does not live in them nor Christ but it is their WAYS AND rules THAT LIVES IN THEM ,RIGHT ??? YES TO MY UNDERSTANDING ,


    T,

    It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers so they love as God loves.  I do not see evidence that God's presence dwells in them.


    KERWIN

    show me that the holy spirit dwells in men ???

    and that we also can have the same holy spirit dwell in us as mare believers ,???


    T,

    Ezekiel 37:14
    King James Version (KJV)

    14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

    1 Corinthians 2:12
    King James Version (KJV)

    12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.


    k

    BUT THAT SPIRIT IS NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT , it is the knowledge of God's way and how to please him ,

    what is contrary to the world and the flesh ,

    it seems you do not know what his the holy spirit right ???


    T,

    Please explain your understanding of what you perceive is two Spirits and I perceive to be one.

    #347304
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,00:08)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,07:07)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,05:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,04:41)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,19:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 10 2013,19:00)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,10:49)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,19:52)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 08 2013,21:08)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,01:42)
    Okay.  So now tell me how the throne on which God sits can exist WITHIN the God who sits on it.


    Mike,

    You have already answered that question when you answered how God exists within the throne he is said to sit upon.  

    The throne of the federal US government is Washington DC and its footstool is the states and territories of the United States.   It exists within them and they exist within it.


    Kerwin,

    I'm hearing:  The throne of an entity exists within the territory that entity rules.  With this I agree.

    But does the throne of any king exist within THE KING who sits on that throne?


    Mike,

    You already stated that God's throne is heaven means God rules from heaven and not that he sits on heaven.  Earth is his footstool similar in that it is lower than the seat of the throne but still connected.

    Paul's words at Athens remain that in God we live, move, and have our being.


    K

    Paul says ;that a true believer lives according to God's law and obey Christ set rules ,and so as life according to it ,

    but God does not live in them nor Christ but it is their WAYS AND rules THAT LIVES IN THEM ,RIGHT ??? YES TO MY UNDERSTANDING ,


    T,

    It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers so they love as God loves.  I do not see evidence that God's presence dwells in them.


    KERWIN

    show me that the holy spirit dwells in men ???

    and that we also can have the same holy spirit dwell in us as mare believers ,???


    T,

    Ezekiel 37:14
    King James Version (KJV)

    14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

    1 Corinthians 2:12
    King James Version (KJV)

    12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.


    k

    BUT THAT SPIRIT IS NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT , it is the knowledge of God's way and how to please him ,

    what is contrary to the world and the flesh ,

    it seems you do not know what his the holy spirit right ???


    T,

    Please explain your understanding of what you perceive is two Spirits and I perceive to be one.


    Hi Kerwin,

    (Quote)
    Please explain your understanding of what you perceive is two Spirits and I perceive to be one.

    Amen.

    Peace brother.

    #347327
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,13:58)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,07:10)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,05:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,04:46)
    K

    Quote
    It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers so they love as God loves

    CAN YOU LOVE AS GOD LOVES Kerwin ???


    T,

    Only if you live by his Spirit and that can only be done by faith.


    K

    does God as faith ??? no

    Quote
    Only if you live by his Spirit

    living by the spirit is what to you kerwin ???


    T,

    God does not have free will in his choice to live by the Spirit.

    Those that live by the Spirit fulfill the law of love.


    Kerwin

    so we do not worship the same God ,because your god as no free will ,on the other hand Jehovah God my God as free will ,

    Quote
    Those that live by the Spirit fulfill the law of love.

    this is true ;but it is for men alone not animals

    #347328
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (abe @ June 11 2013,15:31)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,00:08)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,07:07)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,05:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2013,04:41)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,19:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 10 2013,19:00)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2013,10:49)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,19:52)

    Quote (kerwin @ June 08 2013,21:08)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2013,01:42)
    Okay.  So now tell me how the throne on which God sits can exist WITHIN the God who sits on it.


    Mike,

    You have already answered that question when you answered how God exists within the throne he is said to sit upon.  

    The throne of the federal US government is Washington DC and its footstool is the states and territories of the United States.   It exists within them and they exist within it.


    Kerwin,

    I'm hearing:  The throne of an entity exists within the territory that entity rules.  With this I agree.

    But does the throne of any king exist within THE KING who sits on that throne?


    Mike,

    You already stated that God's throne is heaven means God rules from heaven and not that he sits on heaven.  Earth is his footstool similar in that it is lower than the seat of the throne but still connected.

    Paul's words at Athens remain that in God we live, move, and have our being.


    K

    Paul says ;that a true believer lives according to God's law and obey Christ set rules ,and so as life according to it ,

    but God does not live in them nor Christ but it is their WAYS AND rules THAT LIVES IN THEM ,RIGHT ??? YES TO MY UNDERSTANDING ,


    T,

    It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers so they love as God loves.  I do not see evidence that God's presence dwells in them.


    KERWIN

    show me that the holy spirit dwells in men ???

    and that we also can have the same holy spirit dwell in us as mare believers ,???


    T,

    Ezekiel 37:14
    King James Version (KJV)

    14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

    1 Corinthians 2:12
    King James Version (KJV)

    12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.


    k

    BUT THAT SPIRIT IS NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT , it is the knowledge of God's way and how to please him ,

    what is contrary to the world and the flesh ,

    it seems you do not know what his the holy spirit right ???


    T,

    Please explain your understanding of what you perceive is two Spirits and I perceive to be one.


    Hi Kerwin,

    (Quote)
    Please explain your understanding of what you perceive is two Spirits and I perceive to be one.

    Amen.

    Peace brother.


    abe

    before God almighty their are only two spirit in humanity that can be seen and practice ;

    1) the truth of God

    2) the spirit of the world (Satan spirit of adversary to all what God stands for )

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    kerwin
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    Okay.  So now tell me how the throne on which God sits can exist WITHIN the God who sits on it.


    Mike,

    You have already answered that question when you answered how God exists within the throne he is said to sit upon.  

    The throne of the federal US government is Washington DC and its footstool is the states and territories of the United States.   It exists within them and they exist within it.


    Kerwin,

    I'm hearing:  The throne of an entity exists within the territory that entity rules.  With this I agree.

    But does the throne of any king exist within THE KING who sits on that throne?


    Mike,

    You already stated that God's throne is heaven means God rules from heaven and not that he sits on heaven.  Earth is his footstool similar in that it is lower than the seat of the throne but still connected.

    Paul's words at Athens remain that in God we live, move, and have our being.


    K

    Paul says ;that a true believer lives according to God's law and obey Christ set rules ,and so as life according to it ,

    but God does not live in them nor Christ but it is their WAYS AND rules THAT LIVES IN THEM ,RIGHT ??? YES TO MY UNDERSTANDING ,


    T,

    It is my understanding that the Holy Spirit dwells in believers so they love as God loves.  I do not see evidence that God's presence dwells in them.


    KERWIN

    show me that the holy spirit dwells in men ???

    and that we also can have the same holy spirit dwell in us as mare believers ,???


    T,

    Ezekiel 37:14
    King James Version (KJV)

    14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

    1 Corinthians 2:12
    King James Version (KJV)

    12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.


    k

    BUT THAT SPIRIT IS NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT , it is the knowledge of God's way and how to please him ,

    what is contrary to the world and the flesh ,

    it seems you do not know what his the holy spirit right ???


    T,

    Please explain your understanding of what you perceive is two Spirits and I perceive to be one.


    Hi Kerwin,

    (Quote)
    Please explain your understanding of what you perceive is two Spirits and I perceive to be one.

    Amen.

    Peace brother.


    abe

    before God almighty their are only two spirit in humanity that can be seen and practice ;

    1) the truth of God

    2) the spirit of the world (Satan spirit of adversary to all what God stands for )


    T,

    You seem to be saying that the Holy Spirit is not the Spirit we are instructed to live by. How do you come up with that or am I misunderstanding you?

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