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Quote could you translate the first part of your sentence It is clear enough you should understand.
Quote if someone as a soul he must have some kind of body and God as a soul ,and your comment in your last sentence is ridicule ; God is not created. Among the created I am not sure demons have bodies.
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the one that create his not what he create ;the inventor is not the invention,I agree.
Quote (kerwin @ June 06 2013,06:33) Quote could you translate the first part of your sentence It is clear enough you should understand.
Quote if someone as a soul he must have some kind of body and God as a soul ,and your comment in your last sentence is ridicule ; God is not created. Among the created I am not sure demons have bodies.
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the one that create his not what he create ;the inventor is not the invention,I agree.
kerwinQuote According to you angels are in very body God this i can not understand ,missing some thing
Quote God is not created. Among the created I am not sure demons have bodies. your respond is declaring that God as no soul,and by accepting my last comment you contradict your believe that WE ALL LIVE IN GOD AND THAT ALL IS CREATED IN GOD,
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 05 2013,11:24) Quote (terraricca @ June 03 2013,18:56) Quote (kerwin @ June 04 2013,08:33)
T,It seems to be saying that creation exists,lives, and moves in God and would not exist, live,or move outside of God. I know he is our life as when God's Spirit stops striving with our flesh we die the first death.
KSo wen scriptures says that God's spirit was moving upon the earth he was actual moving inside of himself
And wen he said about the days of creation ,that he saw it was good ,he was also looking at his inside
It seems to me that you would do all thing in opposition to the logic of created nature ,like building a house starting from the inside and finish through the outside ,I mean you would set the furniture and appliances first then build the basement walls and floor……….
Funny stuff, Pierre!
Hi Mike,You're right, I was laughing pretty hard reading Pierre's post.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,10:03) Should we be surprised, Pierre? After all, we are dealing with four people who believe so many of the same unscriptural things, right? So why then would we be surprised that all four of them also agree that all of creation exists INSIDE OF the God who created it? peace and love to you my friend,
mike
Hi Mike,Although I don't agree with their cockamamie wording,what
they are proposing is not as far fetched as you are making it.“If” GOD is everywhere, which I believe he is, then it cannot be outside, because there is no outside.
I guess what you are proposing is: creation was made outside of GOD, but do you have any Scriptural evidence for this premise?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,10:03) I thank God that there are people on this site like you and t8………. people who actually have a grasp of what the scriptures teach.
Hey, what about me?Quote (terraricca @ June 06 2013,06:56) Quote (kerwin @ June 06 2013,06:33) Quote could you translate the first part of your sentence It is clear enough you should understand.
Quote if someone as a soul he must have some kind of body and God as a soul ,and your comment in your last sentence is ridicule ; God is not created. Among the created I am not sure demons have bodies.
Quote
the one that create his not what he create ;the inventor is not the invention,I agree.
kerwinQuote According to you angels are in very body God this i can not understand ,missing some thing
Quote God is not created. Among the created I am not sure demons have bodies. your respond is declaring that God as no soul,and by accepting my last comment you contradict your believe that WE ALL LIVE IN GOD AND THAT ALL IS CREATED IN GOD,
T,You believe angels and God have the same kind of body.
God is not created and so may not require a soul and a body or he may be the equivalent of love with a soul and intellect.
Do demons have a body?
Mike……….Here is one for you to chew on, i gave it to Pierre in the Spirit thread.,
Job 34:14-15…> If he (God) set his heart upon man, if he gathered unto “HIMSELF” “HIS” Spiirt and “HIS” Breath; “ALL” flesh shall “PARISH” together, and man shall turn again unto dust.
So how is it God is not Present in all creation Mike? If all creation is existing and is sustained by him?
peace and love to you and yours……………………gene
I never said God isn't present in His creation, Gene. What I've said is that God's creation doesn't exist WITHIN the being of God.
I realize that the spirit we have on loan from God is what animates us. I also realize that spirit goes back to Him who gave it upon our deaths.
In fact, I used this example as ONE of the MANY meanings of “spirit” in a post for you, not too long ago.
Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2013,20:39) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,10:03) Should we be surprised, Pierre? After all, we are dealing with four people who believe so many of the same unscriptural things, right? So why then would we be surprised that all four of them also agree that all of creation exists INSIDE OF the God who created it? peace and love to you my friend,
mike
Hi Mike,Although I don't agree with their cockamamie wording,what
they are proposing is not as far fetched as you are making it.“If” GOD is everywhere, which I believe he is, then it cannot be outside, because there is no outside.
I guess what you are proposing is: creation was made outside of GOD, but do you have any Scriptural evidence for this premise?
Well Ed,God dwells in heaven, not “everywhere all the time”. So we disagree on the claim that God is omnipresent.
And unless every bit of God's creation also dwells in heaven, where God is, then all of creation is NOT within the being of God.
As for a scripture:
Job 1
6 One day the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them.7 The Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”
Ed, how can the angels COME TO God if they are all already inside of Him to start with? How could they COME TO Him if He was already everywhere they could have possibly been?
And why wouldn't God have known where Satan had been, if the earth and Satan have always remained inside of God?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,16:47) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2013,20:39) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,10:03) Should we be surprised, Pierre? After all, we are dealing with four people who believe so many of the same unscriptural things, right? So why then would we be surprised that all four of them also agree that all of creation exists INSIDE OF the God who created it? peace and love to you my friend,
mike
Hi Mike,Although I don't agree with their cockamamie wording,what
they are proposing is not as far fetched as you are making it.“If” GOD is everywhere, which I believe he is, then it cannot be outside, because there is no outside.
I guess what you are proposing is: creation was made outside of GOD, but do you have any Scriptural evidence for this premise?
Well Ed,God dwells in heaven, not “everywhere all the time”. So we disagree on the claim that God is omnipresent.
And unless every bit of God's creation also dwells in heaven, where God is, then all of creation is NOT within the being of God.
As for a scripture:
Job 1
6 One day the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them.7 The Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”
Ed, how can the angels COME TO God if they are all already inside of Him to start with? How could they COME TO Him if He was already everywhere they could have possibly been?
And why wouldn't God have known where Satan had been, if the earth and Satan have always remained inside of God?
Hi Mike,Acts7:49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
and earth is my footstool:
Why do you say God only dwells in heaven?
Peace brother…
Matthew 6:9
“This, then, is how you should pray: “‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name…………Where is our Father, Abe? Do a word search of “father in heaven”, and see how many times Jesus referred to our Father, who is IN HEAVEN.
Also, how can the earth be God's footstool if the earth resides WITHIN the being of God?
Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,08:39) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,10:03) Should we be surprised, Pierre? After all, we are dealing with four people who believe so many of the same unscriptural things, right? So why then would we be surprised that all four of them also agree that all of creation exists INSIDE OF the God who created it? peace and love to you my friend,
mike
Hi Mike,Although I don't agree with their cockamamie wording,what
they are proposing is not as far fetched as you are making it.“If” GOD is everywhere, which I believe he is, then it cannot be outside, because there is no outside.
I guess what you are proposing is: creation was made outside of GOD, but do you have any Scriptural evidence for this premise?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjQuote “If” GOD is everywhere, which I believe he is, then it cannot be outside, because there is no outside.
I guess what you are proposing is: creation was made outside of GOD, but do you have any Scriptural evidence for this premise?Ge 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
was not hovering OVER THE WATER AND NOT IN THE WATERS ,AND NOT INSIDE HIMSELF ,
YOU CAN BE MADE THROUGH God's created way, in the womb of your mother but you are not your mother and has to come out of it if you want to live,and only then you are considered an human being,
so it is with God' he create then wen it is produced and finish it is on is own according to the ways that God as plan it ,
Quote (abe @ June 07 2013,07:03) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,16:47) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2013,20:39) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,10:03) Should we be surprised, Pierre? After all, we are dealing with four people who believe so many of the same unscriptural things, right? So why then would we be surprised that all four of them also agree that all of creation exists INSIDE OF the God who created it? peace and love to you my friend,
mike
Hi Mike,Although I don't agree with their cockamamie wording,what
they are proposing is not as far fetched as you are making it.“If” GOD is everywhere, which I believe he is, then it cannot be outside, because there is no outside.
I guess what you are proposing is: creation was made outside of GOD, but do you have any Scriptural evidence for this premise?
Well Ed,God dwells in heaven, not “everywhere all the time”. So we disagree on the claim that God is omnipresent.
And unless every bit of God's creation also dwells in heaven, where God is, then all of creation is NOT within the being of God.
As for a scripture:
Job 1
6 One day the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them.7 The Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”
Ed, how can the angels COME TO God if they are all already inside of Him to start with? How could they COME TO Him if He was already everywhere they could have possibly been?
And why wouldn't God have known where Satan had been, if the earth and Satan have always remained inside of God?
Hi Mike,Acts7:49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
and earth is my footstool:
Why do you say God only dwells in heaven?
Peace brother…
JOB 22:12
“Is not God in the height of heaven?
Look also at the distant stars, how high they are!PS 11:4
The LORD is in His holy temple; the LORD'S throne is in heaven;
His eyes behold, His eyelids test the sons of men.
PS 14:2 The LORD has looked down from heaven upon the sons of men
To see if there are any who understand,
Who seek after GodPS 20:6
Now I know that the LORD saves His anointed;
He will answer him from His holy heaven
With the saving strength of His right hand.Whom have I in heaven but You?
And besides You, I desire nothing on earth.
PS 76:8PS 124:8 Our help is in the name of the LORD,
Who made heaven and earth.PS 148:13
Let them praise the name of the LORD,
For His name alone is exalted;
His glory is above earth and heaven.look here the last verse THIS IS WERE THE GLORY OF GOD EXALTED AN ALSO IS .
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2013,07:17) Matthew 6:9
“This, then, is how you should pray: “‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name…………Where is our Father, Abe? Do a word search of “father in heaven”, and see how many times Jesus referred to our Father, who is IN HEAVEN.
Also, how can the earth be God's footstool if the earth resides WITHIN the being of God?
Mike,Given God is in all places is one of those places heaven.
Mike……….. Jesus said Even the Son of Man who is”IN” Heaven He said that while being still on earth> What your take on that Mike? How could he say he was in Heaven while he wa sstill on earth? If you look up the word Heave it comes from Sky or high place. Heaven is anywhere above the earth, according to Genesis, God seperated the Heavens above from the heavens below. So heaven could be just the atmosphere right here on earht right? IMO
peace and love to and yours……………………………..gene
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,17:17) Matthew 6:9
“This, then, is how you should pray: “‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name…………Where is our Father, Abe? Do a word search of “father in heaven”, and see how many times Jesus referred to our Father, who is IN HEAVEN.
Also, how can the earth be God's footstool if the earth resides WITHIN the being of God?
Hi Mike,2Sam.7:1 And it came to pass, when the king(David) sat in his house, and the LORD had given him rest round about from all his enemies; 2That the king said unto Nathan the prophet, See now, I dwell in a house of cedar, but the ark of God dwelleth within curtains. 3And Nathan said to the king, Go, do all that is in thine heart; for the LORD is with thee.4And it came to pass that night, that the word of the LORD came unto Nathan, saying, 5Go and tell my servant David, Thus saith the LORD, Shalt thou build me an house for me to dwell in? 6Whereas I have not dwelt in any house since the time that I brought up the children of Israel out of Egypt, even to this day, but have walked in a tent and in a tabernacle. 7In all the places wherein I have walked with all the children of Israel spake I a word with any of the tribes of Israel, whom I commanded to feed my people Israel, saying, Why build ye not me a house of cedar?
but have walked in a tent and in a tabernacle. 7In all the places wherein I have walked with all the children of Israel,
Eph.4:6 One God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all.
Peace.
Quote (terraricca @ June 06 2013,17:48) Quote (abe @ June 07 2013,07:03) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,16:47) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2013,20:39) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,10:03) Should we be surprised, Pierre? After all, we are dealing with four people who believe so many of the same unscriptural things, right? So why then would we be surprised that all four of them also agree that all of creation exists INSIDE OF the God who created it? peace and love to you my friend,
mike
Hi Mike,Although I don't agree with their cockamamie wording,what
they are proposing is not as far fetched as you are making it.“If” GOD is everywhere, which I believe he is, then it cannot be outside, because there is no outside.
I guess what you are proposing is: creation was made outside of GOD, but do you have any Scriptural evidence for this premise?
Well Ed,God dwells in heaven, not “everywhere all the time”. So we disagree on the claim that God is omnipresent.
And unless every bit of God's creation also dwells in heaven, where God is, then all of creation is NOT within the being of God.
As for a scripture:
Job 1
6 One day the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them.7 The Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”
Ed, how can the angels COME TO God if they are all already inside of Him to start with? How could they COME TO Him if He was already everywhere they could have possibly been?
And why wouldn't God have known where Satan had been, if the earth and Satan have always remained inside of God?
Hi Mike,Acts7:49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
and earth is my footstool:
Why do you say God only dwells in heaven?
Peace brother…
JOB 22:12
“Is not God in the height of heaven?
Look also at the distant stars, how high they are!PS 11:4
The LORD is in His holy temple; the LORD'S throne is in heaven;
His eyes behold, His eyelids test the sons of men.
PS 14:2 The LORD has looked down from heaven upon the sons of men
To see if there are any who understand,
Who seek after GodPS 20:6
Now I know that the LORD saves His anointed;
He will answer him from His holy heaven
With the saving strength of His right hand.Whom have I in heaven but You?
And besides You, I desire nothing on earth.
PS 76:8PS 124:8 Our help is in the name of the LORD,
Who made heaven and earth.PS 148:13
Let them praise the name of the LORD,
For His name alone is exalted;
His glory is above earth and heaven.look here the last verse THIS IS WERE THE GLORY OF GOD EXALTED AN ALSO HIS .
Hi T,(Quote)
PS 148:13
Let them praise the name of the LORD,
For His name alone is exalted;
His glory is above earth and heaven.look here the last verse THIS IS WERE THE GLORY OF GOD EXALTED AN ALSO HIS .
You say the Glory of God is God?
Peace.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2013,11:47) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2013,20:39) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,10:03) Should we be surprised, Pierre? After all, we are dealing with four people who believe so many of the same unscriptural things, right? So why then would we be surprised that all four of them also agree that all of creation exists INSIDE OF the God who created it? peace and love to you my friend,
mike
Hi Mike,Although I don't agree with their cockamamie wording,what
they are proposing is not as far fetched as you are making it.“If” GOD is everywhere, which I believe he is, then it cannot be outside, because there is no outside.
I guess what you are proposing is: creation was made outside of GOD, but do you have any Scriptural evidence for this premise?
Well Ed,God dwells in heaven, not “everywhere all the time”. So we disagree on the claim that God is omnipresent.
And unless every bit of God's creation also dwells in heaven, where God is, then all of creation is NOT within the being of God.
As for a scripture:
Job 1
6 One day the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them.7 The Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”
Ed, how can the angels COME TO God if they are all already inside of Him to start with? How could they COME TO Him if He was already everywhere they could have possibly been?
And why wouldn't God have known where Satan had been, if the earth and Satan have always remained inside of God?
Hi Mike,You bring up a very interesting question, and thanks for asking it!
I hope I can shed some light on the subject for you, with a parable.When people to Church, does the Pastor not say: “we are all gathered here before the LORD?”
This happens in countless Churches ALL at the same time! Now can the “Spirit of God” possibly
be in all these Churches at the same time? That seems like a pretty tall order, wouldn't you say?And did not God ask Adam where he was? Do you think he didn't know where Adam was?
There's no need to answer this, as it is a rhetorical question; but please address the following…When God's voice was heard from out of Heaven (ref. John 12:28),
(1) how did it travel from heaven to earth (since you say they are in different places),
(2) AND how did God know what was happening from heaven? (<– please answer these questions)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ June 07 2013,12:38) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,08:39) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,10:03) Should we be surprised, Pierre? After all, we are dealing with four people who believe so many of the same unscriptural things, right? So why then would we be surprised that all four of them also agree that all of creation exists INSIDE OF the God who created it? peace and love to you my friend,
mike
Hi Mike,Although I don't agree with their cockamamie wording,what
they are proposing is not as far fetched as you are making it.“If” GOD is everywhere, which I believe he is, then it cannot be outside, because there is no outside.
I guess what you are proposing is: creation was made outside of GOD, but do you have any Scriptural evidence for this premise?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjQuote “If” GOD is everywhere, which I believe he is, then it cannot be outside, because there is no outside.
I guess what you are proposing is: creation was made outside of GOD, but do you have any Scriptural evidence for this premise?Ge 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
was not hovering OVER THE WATER AND NOT IN THE WATERS ,AND NOT INSIDE HIMSELF ,
YOU CAN BE MADE THROUGH God's created way, in the womb of your mother but you are not your mother and has to come out of it if you want to live,and only then you are considered an human being,
so it is with God' he create then wen it is produced and finish it is on is own according to the ways that God as plan it ,
PIERREAre you familiar with the formation of a bubble?
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