• Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Berean,

    I just want to say for now that the text does not say that Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit the moment he came out of the water.

    I am wrong ?

    Me: YOU ARE PERFECTLY

    RIGHT!

    THE SPIRIT WAS FULL IN JESUS FROM HIS CONCEPTION AS A HUMAN BEING!

    AT THE RIVER JORDAN JESUS WAS ONLY REVEALED OFFICIALLY WHO HE WAS FOR THE FIRST EVER…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Hi Berean,

    The text of Luke 3 and 4 tell us that at the river Jordan Jesus was baptized and was praying and then the heavens opened up where the Holy Spirit descended in bodily shape like a dove upon him AND that he left the river Jordan “full of the Holy Spirit”.

    The Holy Spirit descended upon him at the river Jordan and he left the river…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi Jodi

    You to Carmel

    Why do you continue to ignore that Jesus left the river Jordan having been filled with the Spirit?

    Me

    And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting 👉upon him:
    And lo a voice from heaven,…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Hi Carmel,

    I thought you had acknowledged that having the power of the Spirit goes without saying when one has been filled with the Spirit?

    Zechariah had been filled with the Spirit to then give prophecy, where it is simply understood and thus goes without saying, he thus had received the power of the Spirit to be able to give the prophecy. It…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Danny Dabbs

    Hi Carmel,

    Acts 6:5 And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the HOLY SPIRIT

    Acts 6:8 And Stephen, full of faith and POWER, did great wonders and miracles among the people.

    Enough said…

    God bless

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Jodi……I agree with Danny, “Amen to your post”.

    John said, “hereby” (this is how we know ) the Spirit or,  (mind of truth) from the Spirit of or,  (mind of error), by the Spirit (mind of truth) which he (God) has given us’.

    peace and love to you and your Jodi……..gene

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Jodi,

    You: Hi Carmel,

    As I said before, pay attention to the context.

    ME: WHAT CONTEXT?

    Read again the scripture:

    Luke 4:14 And Jesus returned IN THE POWER OF THE SPIRIT into Galilee:

     and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.

    READING THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE, FOR THE FIRST-EVER TIME,

    IT CLEARLY SAYS THE MOST VI…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi to all

    Landmark Ruling: The Vatican Officially Authorizes Priests to Begin Blessing Same-Sex Couples

    The movement to force immorality upon the entire world and the church has begun. We are witnessing the complete cancellation of the moral law. The man of sin is doing what he does best—pressuring everyone to live in lawlessness. Pope Francis i…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Danny Dabbs

    AMEN to your last post, Jodi.

    God bless

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Hi Carmel,

    You: ONLY JESUS RECEIVED ALL THE ABOVE BY THE POWER OF THE SPIRIT WITHOUT MEASURE, BUT NOT INCESSANTLY POSSESSED!

    ME: There exists no scriptural support for what you have stated what so ever. You continually add into scripture what is not there and turn the bible into a book of nonsense.

    As said before there exists no scripture that…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi DD,

    You: Hi Carmel,

    So are you saying that the Spirit of God was without power for a short time?

    First and foremost WHO AM I TO DETERMINE THAT?

    WE ONLY HAVE THE SCRIPTURE TO DETERMINE WHAT’S WHAT, THOUGH NOT ALWAYS IN FULL CLARITY, FROM OUR SIDE, THE FACT THAT THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS!

    Just read AGAIN the scriptures I…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Danny Dabbs

    Hi Carmel,

    So are you saying that the Spirit of God was without power for a short time?

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    To all I propose a question,  in what way did JESUS DIE  for the sins of the world? Did his sinless life, pay off yours and mine sin debt, and if so how did it, and in what way did it?

    Is “repentance” a prerequisite in order to have your sins forgiven you, By God the Father,  Or is it just believing that Jesus’s death paid them off for us. One r…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Hi Carmel,

    As I said before, pay attention to the context.

    Luke 4:14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.

    Luke 5:15 But so much the more went there a fame abroad of him: and great multitudes came together to hear, and to be healed by him of their…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi DD,

    You: Hi Carmel,

    The Spirit of God came on Jesus after his baptism. (Matthew 3:16) So for me it is very clear that at that point Jesus had the power of the Spirit.

    ME: THAT DOES NOT EQUATE THAT JESUS WAS IN THE POWER OF THE SPIRIT AT ALL!

    Me: Please read hereunder:

    Luke 4:14 And Jesus returned IN THE POWER OF THE SPIRIT, into…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Danny Dabbs

    Hi Carmel,

    The Spirit of God came on Jesus after his baptism. (Matthew 3:16)
    So for me it is very clear that at that point Jesus had the power of the Spirit.
    Please read Acts 1:8 But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you…
    Well, there you go. It couldn’t be any clearer.

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Carmel…….SATAIN. was trying to deceive Jesus just as you are trying to deceive us.  Jesus did not fall for his deceptions. But you, it seem, have fallen for them, as testified by your words here.  Jesus through the Holy Spirit given him was using the very words of God himself which are written in our scriptures to out smarted Satan, somet…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Jodi,

    You: I have ZERO interest in what you believe the truth is according to your “spiritual mind”.

    If you are not producing a summary from DIRECT passages, 

    then to me you are spewing nothing but lies from your own imagination that is under strong delusion.

    Me: HERE IS A DIRECT PASSAGE READ:

    Luke 4:14 And Jesus returned IN THE POWER…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Hi All,

    Ephesians 3: 1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, 2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: 3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    ADVENT MESSENGER

    News and commentary from a Biblical world view on current events, top stories, social trends and political and religious events.

    The Vatican Representative to the UN tells World Leaders Gathered in Geneva that Laudato Si’ is the “Loud Call” for the Earth

    December 13, 2023

    The United Nations hosted a “high-level event”…[Read more]

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