Hi Berean,

You provided passages from 1 John 3 and John 8 that contain the word “devil”.

As provided a number of times now,

DEVIL = DIAOBOS

=SLANDERER/false accuser/liar/DECEIVER

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there…[Read more]

Jodi…..exactly right, the devils are human beings following their own lust working in them.  John said…….>“For “all” that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, the pride of life, are from the world, and the world is passing away and the lust with it.”

peace and love to you and yours………gene

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Good Morning Gene,

Excellent point that it was Cain who was a murder and a liar from the beginning. Looks like this post was from Berean actually, though Danny would have likely brought up these passages as well.

I find it fascinating that Berean highlighted “when he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of…[Read more]

Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.

👉When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of…[Read more]

@ Jodi

He that committeth sin is👉 of the devil; 👈 for  👉the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

1 John 3:8

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
In this the…[Read more]

Hi Danny,

Thanks for your reply keeping the discussion going.

Maybe I have missed it, I am not aware to what your understanding is exactly regarding unclean spirits interchangeably in scripture called devils?

I am not at all in error and let me provide some clarification and further scriptural support along with common sense. 

Mark 9:17 And…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: Devils equate to the deaf and dumb! Even the deaf and dumb believe and tremble, oh vain man.

Me: Matthew 8:31-32 totally destroys what you said.
31 So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine. 32 And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd…[Read more]

Hi Danny,

James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. 16 Do not err,…[Read more]

Good Morning Danny,

James 2: 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

The word devils…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

Did you say that demons are mental disorders???

James 2:19 You believe that there is one God; you do well: the demons also believe, and tremble.

So either you believe the clear given word and apply to all of scripture or you don’t.

H Jodi,

You: As said before there exists no scripture that Jesus received God’s Spirit

here and there.

…. but would leave him and then descend again, is complete garbage.

Me: Scripture again:

Luke 5:17….. the POWER of the Lord was PRESENT to heal them.

Jodi, READING THE ABOVE, CONFIRMS THAT,

THE POWER OF THE FATHER, NOT THE HOLY GHOST,…[Read more]

Thanks Gene!

I remember debating this topic several years ago with a number of members, which you too might likely recall.  I hope the debate can continue, just wish I had more free time to study and post like I use to. I’d like to go back to some of those old posts and relook at them, might save me some time!

Jodi……Yes God the Father is in control of it all,  and it is man’s own Carnal thinking that creates his own demonic views. I also believe God alone is in charge of everything, always has been and always will be .
keep up the Good Work Jodi,  This is an interesting subject you have got going here.

peace a love to you and yours Jodi……….gene

Hi Danny and All,

So either you believe the clear given word and apply to all of scripture or you don’t.

YHVH ALONE DOES ALL THESE THINGS. He brings forth all manner of physical and mental diseases (AKA evil spirits), He raises up kings and makes them fall, He interjects in war and determines outcomes, He brings forth pestilence, hail,…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: You continually add into scripture what is not there and turn the bible into a book of nonsense.

Let’s read the scripture.

Acts 6:3 Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report,

full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom,

whom we may appoint over this business. 4But we will give ourselves continually to prayer,…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

ME:  ONLY JESUS RECEIVED ALL THE ABOVE BY THE POWER OF THE SPIRIT WITHOUT MEASURE, BUT NOT INCESSANTLY POSSESSED!

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>YOU: There exists no scriptural support for what you have stated whatsoever.</span>

ME: WE’LL SEE AS WE PROCEED TILL I ANSWER ALL YOUR FALLACIES.

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>You continually…[Read more]

I am hoping that continuing the discussion of fallen angels and such on here will then lead us back to understanding the below passage.

Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the…[Read more]

I am going to post in the Enmity thread and Berean I see your post with the question about who is the serpent in the garden and so I will answer that there as well.