Hi DT,

YOU: I could careless about everything else you are bringing into this to justify Paul’s wording; his choice of wording for being paid is beyond poor; it’s insulting, to say you “robbed” those who paid you for your teachings!

ME: You say you could care less about everything else, but you yourself said, “the question is why would he refu…[Read more]

Hey there DT.

YOU: I Cor 15:9 “For I am the least of the apostles, who is not worthy to be called an apostle,” and then look at II Cor 11:5 “For I consider myself not at all inferior to those “super-apostles.” You don’t consider this egotistical?

ME: The “super apostles” Paul speaks to in chapter 11 he clearly identifies as FALSE apostles[Read more]

@Carmel,

You posted from Jews for Jesus (sigh):

“The necessity for this exception to the rule became apparent when Isaiah 7:14 prophesied that the Messiah would be born of a virgin:

“Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call his name Immanuel.”

Couple issues with thi…[Read more]

@Danny,

Why don’t you do a big Bible study instead of asking all these questions? You seem like a “young christian.” Instead of telling me to “study”, maybe take your own advice and not rely on the words of those whom you think are telling you truth and verify these words for yourself.

Try using Biblehub. There you can find good comment…[Read more]

@Jodi,

Since we like beating dead horses; who, on payday, says they “robbed” the employer? Most would say their employer “robbed” them looking at the paycheck amount. Who, when providing a legitimate service requiring payment, says they “robbed” the individual? I could careless about everything else you are bringing into this to justify Pau…[Read more]

@Gene,

You preach the law still stands right? Are God’s “laws” not eternal? Jesus seems to think so; didn’t he say that not a stroke or smallest letter will disappear from the “law”?

then when was the last time you sacrifice a lamb for your sins? What did David say concerning sacrifices (Ps 51:16-17); , what did Solomon say concerning…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU: What emotion does the term “robbing” conjure in you? How does it make you feel? Would you call the term positive or negative?

ME: Your questioning of “what emotions” conjure in me when I hear the term “robbing”, all the more tells me you aren’t at all invested in sound reasoning and the context of the situation. We are to find tru…[Read more]

Hi DT, and ALL,

You: Copy and pasting an entire page from a website doesn’t really constitute as research;

it just means you looked something up and re-posted it.

Me: IT ALSO MEANS SOMETHING ELSE! JUST READ WHAT I SAID IN MY POST#946135

I am not that KEEN and as familiar as YOU ARE with the Hebrew scriptures I opted to do some r…[Read more]

@desiretruth

Why don’t you do a big Bible study instead of asking all these questions?
Try using Biblehub. There you can find good commentaries on every Bible verse.
Anyway, there are no contradictions in the Bible.

God bless

Hey there DT,

This is a sticking point to me because you assert your position completely ignoring the surrounding text and the circumstances therein.

As you yourself have said, churches paid for Paul to travel to serve other churches giving the gospel. Churches also gave charity to support the needs of other churches and for Paul to also give…[Read more]

DT……You preach the law still stands right? , then when was the last time you sacrifice a lamb for your sins?   When is the last time you kept all “SEVEN”  of the “Holy Days”.  I doubt you even know what they are much less keep then.  If you’re going to be a person, under the works of law, then you better be doing it all yourself , not just mout…[Read more]

@Jodi,

You keep bringing up “donations”; God says charity is good, DO IT!! I’m speaking of Paul being paid and using the word “robbing” to describe being paid but refusing payment from Corinth even though it’s his “right” to be paid as he teaches the gospel.

What emotion does the term “robbing” conjure in you? How does it make you feel? Would…[Read more]

I can’t disagree with what you have wrote.

I think his love is unconditional, but legally, he is also just and there are requirements, legally speaking.

For example. You might have a son or daughter that you love with all your heart no matter what. But you are not going to give them a free pass on lying to others or killing someone.

Even if…[Read more]

DT,

Let each accusation you have against Paul have sound scriptural proof.

YOU: Who are we to love first? This statement is a false teaching, you can’t possibly know how to love your neighbor without loving God first. So it’s not one command as Paul says; there are two and there’s a reason why the first command of loving God is first. How are w…[Read more]

Hey there DT!

You believe Paul is a liar a deceiver and that he even boldly states that he is a thief…, whatever else you want to accuse him of, let each accusation have sound scriptural proof. 

YOU:

I don’t recall ever reading such statements to other churches. The point was why did Paul unashamedly use the term “robbing” other church…[Read more]

@Jodi,

I suppose we could go back and forth with our understanding on what these passages say/mean and will never come to an agreement; we view the NT differently. The change for me began with Paul saying according to scripture the messiah was to die for the sins of mankind and be buried and raised up on the third day. The statement “according t…[Read more]

Hi DT,

I couldn’t help but notice the conversation going on between you and Carmel involving the curse given to Jeconiah. I am going to post on the “Conception” thread to speak about this and hope that you will reply there.

Hey there DT!

YOU: You then site I John as proof to Paul’s understanding, except Paul was gallivanting all over eastern Rome would he have received this letter John wrote? Upon further investigation we find the letter to Galatians was written around AD 48 and it’s believed John wrote his letter around AD 95 -110. Unless we have another time tra…[Read more]

Jodi ou said……>”DT it’s like you have no interest in context and understanding whatsoever, and in this negligence you slander Paul making assertions that are far from the truth.”

Jodi, not only does DT, “IGNOR CONTEXT”,  and make false assertions against, Paul, but also against Peter, and the other apostles and even Jesus Christ, himself,  but ev…[Read more]

@Carmel,

I have been to Mechon Mamre, but they use the JPS translation and am not really a fan of it as it reads very similar to the KJV. The positive with the JPS is they haven’t changed the tenses of verbs to make them appear to be referring to the future. Additionally, because I don’t know Hebrew, the site became pointless; so I found ano…[Read more]