Hi Berean,

Thanks for proving my point to Danny, where you COMPLETELY IGNORE clear scriptures and then go about interpreting other passages WITHOUT them!

Let’s first acknowledge that you completely ignore the context given, the fact that Paul is telling folks that they need to be like minded with “Christ”.  You ignore the passages where Jesus…[Read more]

Hi Danny and All,

YOU:

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
Who dwelt among us?
Jesus Christ!

ME:

Yes indeed, Jesus Christ dwelt among the people, having been sent by God out into the world upon the Spirit of God having come to abode in him.

Verse 14 of John speaks exactly to my position.

The Word is the WORD of God…[Read more]

@DT

The TRUE Israël IS those “they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.(Rev.14:12)

Rom.9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

Rom.2:28] For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
But he is a…[Read more]

DT…….where does it say that the “Messiah” would do all his work at his “FIRST” APPEARANCE, that is you adding to the text, it simply say that he will perform those things , and he will at his return, which is soon to come.  You’re putting your own times of complete accomplishments,  when scripture does not .
Jesus’ first appearance as the Messiah…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: but you disagree with him being the true “Messiah” something I know he was and is.

Me: How do you “know” Jesus is? What facts can you give? What proofs are available to support your “belief”? Since the Messiah was first spoken of in the Tanakh one must begin looking here and anything spoken of the Messiah in the Tanakh MUST have be…[Read more]

@ Jodi

Below speaks to the Messiah, he is begotten by God becoming a Son, he is a king inheriting the earth for his possession and he destroys the wicked. Blessed are them who trust in the Son.

Me

The truth is that Jesus was already THE SON OF GOD AND HE WAS GOD 👉BUT TO SAVE HUMANITY “HE WAS MADE FLESH” AND THUS HE BECAME BY HIS BIRTH, LIF…[Read more]

@jodi

Hi Jodi,

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
Who dwelt among us?
Jesus Christ!

Anyway, I need to rest.

God bless you and take care.

Hi DT,

YOU: Where did God say HE was going to become a father unto the seed of David? What verse are you citing?

ME: Below speaks to the Messiah, he is begotten by God becoming a Son, he is a king inheriting the earth for his possession and he destroys the wicked. Blessed are them who trust in the Son.

Psalms 1:1 Blessed is the man that walketh…[Read more]

DT……Yes , but you disagree with him being the true “Messiah”  something I know he was and is.  I believe exactly what Paul said,…….> “but unto us,  (true believers) , there is but “ONE” God, and one mediator, between  God and men, the “MAN” JESUS CHRIST.”

And Jesus himself said , …..>“Father that they might come to know you,” THE ONLY”  true GO…[Read more]

@Gene,

All those who have made Jesus into their GOD, and worship him as their God, are liars – – TRUTH!!

and are committing “IDOLATRY ” – – YES!! BY NOT WORSHIPING GOD ALONE!!

Will parish, unless they repent – – MOST LIKELY NOT WITH THE SAME UNDERSTANDING, BUT THE BASIC PREMISE, YES!!

They preach Jesus as a “DIVINE PREEXISTING” being as a God…[Read more]

Jodi…..You are absolutely right,  anyone with the SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD DWELLING IN THEM , should clearly see that.

All those who have made Jesus into their GOD, and worship him as their God, are liars, and are committing “IDOLATRY “, and Will parish, unless they repent. They preach Jesus as  a “DEVINE PREEXISTING” being  as a God and are wors…[Read more]

The easiest observation to disprove Flat Earth?

@ Jodi

Why do you deny the divinity and therefore the pre-existence of Jesus which is clearly shown in the Bible. This is what I can’t understand.
And you say you have the Spirit,…but what spirit?
I pray that someone wiser than me guides you into this truth which I believe escapes you for the moment.
With hope in my heart.

@Jodi,

You: You can’t assure anything, you can’t even acknowledge the clear simple truth that God promised that He WAS GOING TO BECOME a Father unto a seed of David.

Me: Where did God say HE was going to become a father unto the seed of David? What verse are you citing?

Hi Berean,

You can’t assure anything, you can’t even acknowledge the clear simple truth that God promised that He WAS GOING TO BECOME a Father unto a seed of David.

You go about interpreting passages making this word of God into a lie saying the opposite, not that a man of flesh (a seed of David) became a Son but rather you teach that an…[Read more]

@Gene

Concerning the pre-existence of Christ, I assure you that you are telling a big lie.
And I hope DD never swallows this snake that constantly appears on this thread.

Danny you said……..”Doesn’t this mean that Jesus was already the Christ before coming in the flesh?”

Danny, no it does not mean Jesus was Christ before his birth on this earth, he single did not exist before he was born on this earth.   But “YES”, he was already in the plan and Will of God the Father, from the foundations of the earth, and at the…[Read more]

Hi Danny,

Your view is very refreshing I must say, and I have most certainly over the years changed my position on things when presented with passages and then being mindful of the sum of all scriptures. When interpretations don’t cause contradictions but rather make things make more sense, to me that identifies what is true.

1 John 4:2, glad…[Read more]

@Berean,

Once again you have given nothing to refute or explain why I am wrong. I have explained why you’re wrong and have shown why you’re wrong; and every time you “counter” with cherry picked verses taken out of context. If you cannot substantiate what you believe, why do you believe it?

Because Jesus claimed Isa 61:1 was about himself,…[Read more]