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    @Gene,

    In post 946453 you say we are in agreement with the term “because”, except we’re not. You believe Jesus created a “bridge” between you and God in his death; but, God said I’M right here – come.

    You keep talking about the terms “for” and “because” and claiming “for” can mean “because”; except grammatically, “for” introduces a purpose…[Read more]

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    Danny……yes it is speaking of the LORD,  our,  and Jesus’, GOD.

    Peace and love to you and your Danny………gene

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    There was an error again. This is frustrating.

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    Gene and all, I did copy and paste that Psalm but instead of LORD it incorrectly showed Lord.

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    Gene and all, I did copy and paste that Psalm but instead of LORD it incorrectly only showed Lord. It was an error. So I will copy and paste that Psalm again:
    Psalm 89
    1{Maschil of Ethan the Ezrahite.} I will sing of the mercies of the LORD for ever: with my mouth will I make known thy faithfulness to all generations.

    2For I have said, Mercy…[Read more]

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    Danny, AMEN to that post brother.

    peace and love to you and yours………gene

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    Atheist goes to hell & heaven Even if you’ve heard Howard Storm’s story before, this four-part series on “BEYOND with Heather Tesch” is a must-watch. Heather asks questions that delve

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    @all

    Psalm 89
    Maschil of Ethan the Ezrahite.

    1
    I will sing of the mercies of the Lord for ever:
    with my mouth will I make known thy faithfulness to all generations.
    2
    For I have said, Mercy shall be built up for ever:
    thy faithfulness shalt thou establish in the very heavens.

    3
    I have made a covenant with my chosen,
    I have sworn unto David my…[Read more]

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    Berean…..What you quoted is correct , Jesus did die for all mankind,  because God chose him to  “demonstrate” to all mankind, What is required to live right with God the Father. He  did not  to take our place and pay off our sins. But to “demonstrate”  and show us all what is required of us all to be forgiven our sins by God the Father, and inter…[Read more]

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    @ Gene

    You write 👉The concept that Jesus died and paid off our sin debt himself is a “LIE”.👈

    Me 👉If Jesus had not died for all out of love for us, to pay our debt to God, and to be our example, we would not even be able to repent of our sins, we would be lost and without hope in this world.

    For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thu…[Read more]

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    First of all the word “for”. In English  can mean “because”  of. Now let’s get the picture of what that means>. God wanted to show mankind what it takes to live right with him. Jesus demonstrated the “WAY”, to do that. The only way he paid for our sins is in “DEMONSTRATING”.  to us all , what is required to have a true and right relationship wit…[Read more]

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    Hi DT and all,

    I did discuss the case of Isaac’s birth well back on this thread with Jodi once.

    FINALLY THANKS TO THE HOLY SPIRIT I AM BACK TO ANSWER YOUR SPIRITUALLY DEAD POST IN GENERAL.

    TODAY IS THE FEAST OF THE PENTECOST AND I AM MORE THAN CONVINCED THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT FURNISHED ME WITH MORE LIGHT, AND I AM IN THE POSITON TO SHARE W…[Read more]

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    DT, you said…….>To say Jesus died “because” of our sins is to call God a liar; it was God who said in Deut 24:16 “Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, and children shall not be put to death because of their fathers; each one shall be put to death for his own sin.” If God says the innocent will not be put to death for t…[Read more]

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    Jodi, you said…….>God brought forth times and seasons to prove to man that we need God’s Spirit dwelling in us, man can do nothing of himself.

    That’s absolutely right,  Jesus said,….> the son of man can do, “nothing” of himself, And that it was God who was in” him doing the works.  This is the exact same thing that must happen to us.  Just as it…[Read more]

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    @Gene,

    You: Jesus did not die “for” our sin, he died “because” of our sins

    Me: There is so much wrong with this statement; John the baptizer says in John 1:29 “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!” Don’t you also believe Isa 53 is speaking of the messiah and this “servant” was to die for the transgressions of…[Read more]

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    @proclaimer and all,

    Updated info about the workers of iniquity aka freemasons.
    They are trying to move us to commit the blasphemy against the Spirit of the Father and the Son.
    Because the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.
    (Mark 3:28-30)
    The solution is simple just accept the whole Bible.

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    Danny you quoted……> 1John.4
    In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent 👉his only begotten Son👉 into the world, that we might live through him.

    Let’s think about that ok,  Who sent his only begotten son, was it the Son who sent himself, or was it God who sent him?   And in what way are we to live through him? ,  by h…[Read more]

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    @Gene

    REV.19:13. And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
    His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
    And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in…[Read more]

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    Jodi replied to the topic Sin debts in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 11 months ago

    Hi Gene,

    Important topic thanks for creating it!

    My understanding,

    Are sins are forgiven in Christ.

    Christ = a man who has been born of the Spirit called to righteousness.

    No other man received God’s Spirit as Jesus did being called to righteousness, we were all bound to sin and death.

    God forgives us through Christ and what does Christ…[Read more]

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