carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 5 months ago
Hi Berean, and MIKE:
Me:
I will give you specifically my answers and questions ONE BY ONE IN REPET OF YOUR POSTS!
The first one:
You: IF THERE HAD BEEN A PRECEDENT ON OUR EARTH, GOD WOULD HAVE INDICATED IT TO US…
IN A VERY CLEAR WAY.
Scripture:
All things are hard: man cannot explain them by word.
The eye is not filled with seeing, neither i…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Private thread for Mike and Proclaimer only: "The Bible vs Scientism" in the forum The Hot Seat 4 years, 5 months ago
PROCLAIMER: ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE, GOD MADE THE SUN, MOON AND STARS AND PLACED THEM IN HEAVEN ON THE FOURTH DAY OF CREATION.
KNOWING NOW THAT THE EARLIEST EXISTENCE OF HEAVEN DOESN’T PRESUPPOSE THE SIMULTANEOUS EXISTENCE OF THE SUN, MOON, STARS OR ANY OTHER THING CURRENTLY IN IT ANY MORE THAN THE EARLIEST EXISTENCE OF EARTH PRESUPPOSES…mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private thread for Mike and Proclaimer only: "The Bible vs Scientism" in the forum The Hot Seat 4 years, 5 months ago
Nope. Please answer my last question before posting anything else. Thanks.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Private thread for Mike and Proclaimer only: "The Bible vs Scientism" in the forum The Hot Seat 4 years, 5 months ago
Proclaimer: We both agree that day is not always 24 hours just like the Hebrew dictionaries state.
This applies to the days of creation. And a day to the LORD is not a day like ours. And man and the sun were not created according to you, so the creation days are not 24 hours.
This is settled right?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 5 months ago

Berean replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 5 months ago
Amen Danny !
Danny Dabbs replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 5 months ago
Hi Adam,
There are no two Gods (YHWH vs EL)
YHWH is God!It was shown to you so that you might know that Yahweh is God.
There is no one else besides him. Deuteronomy 4:35Know therefore today, and take it to heart, that Yahweh himself is God
in heaven above and on the earth beneath.
There is no one else. Deuteronomy 4:39God bless
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 4 years, 5 months ago
Hi LU
Glad to see you enjoyed this story….I didn’t want to miss this one. have a nice day and good courage with everything.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 5 months ago
Mike…..I also agree with LU, IF David meant god’s, the Greek word “theos” would have been used there.
Mike, the question is do you “truly”, believe what Jesus said, “this is eternal life, that they might know “YOU” , the “ONLY” “TRUE” God”…….Why would Jesus use the word “only” , if there were other “true” God’s, common sense questi…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 4 years, 5 months ago
Thanks for posting these devotions, Berean. Interesting stories! YHVH is amazing.
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 4 years, 5 months ago
Hi to all
Daily Devotional
Concert for a dead man
An Amazing Fact: One stormy night in 1910, a group of traveling musicians arrived at the city of Riga, on the Baltic Sea, to fulfill a concert engagement. The weather was so bad, however, that the conductor of the orchestra tried to persuade the manager of the hall to cancel the concert. He…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 5 months ago
If David meant “gods” then the Greek would have been “theos.”
It seems to me that David meant angels in general.
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 5 months ago
Mike,
This is what I said:
I believe that the Father gives the vision and the Son does what He has seen in the vision. The Son formed man. All things are made by the only begotten God, apart from the only begotten God, nothing has been made that has been made. John 1:3, even the heavens and the earth ;).
The Father gives the vision, the Son…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 5 months ago
Kathi, you said very recently that the Father said the words of Gen 1:26, and Jesus is the one who actually created man. Are you trying to double-talk your way out of that now?
And yes, many scriptures say God (as in the Father) created all things THROUGH Jesus. (John 1:3, Heb 1:2, Col 1:16)
There are also many other scriptures that make it…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 5 months ago
The Greek “aggelos”, like the Hebrew “malak”, means messenger. When the messenger in question is deemed to be a spirit being by English translators, many of them use the English word angel – which is not in any Biblical text. There is no such Hebrew or Greek word that designates a spirit messenger of God, like the English word angel does.
In both…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 5 months ago
Mike,
You said YOU say that Jesus is the one who actually did the creative work.
The Father created through Jesus. The Father provided the vision and anything needed (whatever that would have been) and the Son took what He was given and brought the vision into reality, as I understand it. So neither person created independently of the other, both…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 5 months ago
Look at Heb 2:9 in the interlinear and you will see that David was talking about the “angelous” (strongs #32) often translated as angels but not translated as “gods.”
mikeboll64 replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 5 months ago
Okay Kathi, but if not “all spirit sons of God”, then which particular spirit sons of God was David talking about when he said, “You have made mankind a little lower than the gods”?
Was mankind made a little lower than some of the “angels”, but higher than others? I don’t get it. Which of these gods, exactly, was David talking about if not a…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 5 months ago
LU: Mike,
I just have a tiny amount of time to spend here due to my college work and family time. I might have more time for a dedicated thread after the semester, middle of May.
👍🙂
Mike: WHY is Moses under the impression that our Creator is the Father – a single male entity?
LU: The Arm/Word of the LORD “Jesus” was not revealed yet as Je…
Lightenup replied to the topic The Many Gods of the Bible in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 5 months ago
Mike, Off the top of my head, Hebrews 1 and 2 has reference to this and I have always understood that as angels. I do not agree that all spirit sons of God are considered as, and explicitly called gods in scripture.
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