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    Mike: Genesis 1:1… In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.

    GENE, DOES GEN 1:1 MENTION A PERSON?  YES OR NO?

     

    Gene:  Mike,  No,  it dosen’t , mention a person…

    Interesting.  Okay then… Gene, did a person create the heaven and the earth?

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    Yes Gene, I said and proved through scripture that the gods Jesus referred to in John 10 were real, actual gods.

    No Gene, since the gods of Psalm 82 are not men, I did not in any way imply or say that men are gods.

    No Gene, I have never believed or said that Jesus was a “God-Man”.

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    Mike,  No,  it dosen’t , mention a person, it mentions a God beings,  relationship with us humans .  The scriptures were written to people who knew who God was, why because HE was ,   “THE”  ONLY ‘TRUE” GOD,  that,  ever existed and ever will exist.  His “Name” is CALLED , yehweh, or Yohovah,   as far as SOME  scriptures goes.  But to me and Jes…[Read more]

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    Mike……So it really wasn’t, you, that wrote and  implied that the people Jesus mentioned as being god’s,  were real,  god’s beings right? ,  YOU DIDN’T SAY THAT OR IMPLY THAT ?  Mike, not only is Jesus not a “God/Man   he is not a “Man/God” either.   If you will admit,  there is “ONLY” ONE “TRUE” GOD/god to, all, “true” (believers) , then we a…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer:  Surely he is a threat to the globalist overlords…

    @admin  Will you please block Pretender (aka Proclaimer) from posting on the site until he fulfills your Hot Seat rules, and directly answers the question waiting for him in the “Bible Vs Scientism” private thread?  It has been about 2 months since he has answered a single qu…[Read more]

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    Thanks for your direct answer, Gene.  That’s how discussions should ALWAYS be done, how differences can finally be resolved, and how learning can finally take place.  Continually talking past each other without directly addressing the other guy’s arguments is an exercise in futility.

    2 Peter 3:18… But grow in the grace and knowledge of our L…[Read more]

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    Gene:  Hope you were able to follow that Mike…  Jesus is not a God/man…

    Gene, you really need to stop misrepresenting me in your long, convoluted, babbling pontifications, dude.  I have argued for years here that Jesus is NOT a “God-Man”.  So why would you write something that implies that I believe something that I most definitely don’t bel…[Read more]

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    Mike:  Is there a LIVING BEING (an ALIVE ENTITY) mentioned anywhere in Gen 1:1?  Yes or No?

    LU: No. there are two.

    Thank you for your direct answer! 👍

    Now… by which particular WORD in Gen 1:1 are these “two” living entities mentioned?

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    LU:  “each side is a coin” 

     

    Also LU: “each side of the coin is not itself a coin”

    Well I’m glad we got that worked out.

    LU:  Showing me a picture of a coin cut in half is showing me that you don’t understand what a side of a coin is. 

    I knew exactly what you meant by “each side of a coin”.  I showed the coin cut in half the way I did on p…[Read more]

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    Hi LU,

    Is Jesus the Son of the God in Deuteronomy 10:17
    Yes or No?

    I already answered some of your questions.
    Please go back in the thread and you will find them.
    Thanks.

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    Mike……..YES I DO,  with  “ALL” MY HEART , ”ALL” MY SOUL, “ALL” MY MIND,  ALL, MY STRENGTH .  How God the Father does it, is another subject. Makes no difference to me it still is him and him “alone” that is doing it, and I give “ALL” the glory of  my salvation to him and him alone.

    Peace and love to you and yours Mike……..gene

     

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    Mike…….My understading of scriptures is “not lacking”  I knew you would quote that scripture,  but my point was and is,  that even if we bow our knee to Jesus, it’s not to the “GLORY” OF Jesus, ‘it’s “TO”,   the “GLORY OF “God the Father of “ALL” CREATION.  

    So it seems your lack of actually understanding scripture and believing what they <…[Read more]

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    Surely he is a threat to the globalist overlords. I wonder if he will be taken out or if there will be an attempt. His fortune of $268 billion gives him immense power. problem for the elites is that it appears that Musk cares about ordinary people and their wellbeing and freedom. He has many powerful enemies including Bill…[Read more]

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    Miia replied to the topic Who is Elon Musk? in the forum The Hot Seat 4 years, 5 months ago

    Lightenup, Yes he is interesting.

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    Mike,

    Is there a LIVING BEING (an ALIVE ENTITY) mentioned anywhere in Gen 1:1?  Yes or No?

    No. there are two.

     

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    Mike,

    You said: No Kathi, each side of a coin is not itself a coin.

    Exactly, each side of the coin is not itself a coin. Both sides are together a coin. Yet, when you look at one side of the coin, you recognize that as a coin and you wouldn’t even have to see the other side. When you look at the other side of the coin, you recognize that as a…[Read more]

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    LU: Mike,

    What is your definition of a living being?

    Again… are you serious?

    Living = Alive

    Being = Existing Entity

    Now will you answer the question?

    Is there a LIVING BEING (an ALIVE ENTITY) mentioned anywhere in Gen 1:1?  Yes or No?

     

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    LU:  …each side is a coin in a unique way to the other but they are not two different coins.

    No Kathi, each side of a coin is not itself a coin.  I’m praying that you are making a joke here.  I can’t bring myself to imagine the implications if you are being serious here.  In what world would anybody in their right mind think that one half of a s…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    What is your definition of a living being?

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    Mike,

    In the beginning, “the Only Begotten God” was with “the God whom no one has seen”.

    Neither one is God apart from the other. They are not two separate gods. The Son is the “only begotten God part of the Unity of Yahweh and the Father is “the God whom no one has seen” part of the Unity of Yahweh.

    Like two sides of the coin make up one coi…[Read more]

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