Gene: Mike…….Do you understand what medaphors are… ?

Yep.

Gene:  Adam and Ever were not told to not “eat” of the fruit of a “real tree”,    but God was telling them not to “Take” to themselves” (as you do when you eat something) , to produce from themselves the knowledge of good and evil.  Like a tree that  produces it’s own fruit… 

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Proclaimer:  Later on a space was created that divided the waters to below and above. As mentioned before, this clear space also placed the sun, moon, and stars into view. It doesn’t have to be a glass dome. It just means an expanse.

But the “clear space” must have the sun, moon, and every single star IN it… and also have waters ABOVE it…[Read more]

Mike:  Can you see that God named the firmament “HEAVEN” – not “the sky”?

 

Proclaimer:  And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.”

And God said, “Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the h…

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Proclaimer: God cleared earth’s atmosphere to make the planet habitable. So that there was a separation of waters below and above. That is, seas  clear air / firmament and clouds above. Even to this day we have water under the earth on the surface, and in the atmosphere. The waters below and above. 

Mike  please read this slowly and multi…

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Proclaimer:  That said, I am not necessarily arguing that Jesus went up a hill and got a 360 degree view of these ancient kingdoms. I’m just making the point that it could be physically possible.

But only on a flat earth… not the ball you believe we live on.

Carmel…….yes the rock was The christos,  but that wasen’t the man Jesus,  he had not even been anointed with the Holy Spirit yet, because he didn’t exist yet.

The Spirit was on Moses   Joshua, Calab, and the Seventy Elders  That God put it on, as acripture clearly says.   Trying to force the text to say that Jesus was there,  is another…[Read more]

This is satire. But FE think this is real.
The sad thing about his video is he makes better points than most flat earthers.

Lol.

Further debunk of the local sun
If this was as FEs say, a local sun, then how is it suppose to light up half of the world. Seriously look at the range of these rays. It only makes sense if the sun is millions of miles away and huge. Then such a small sun can light up the whole planet, except for that part that is not facing it. Further,…[Read more]

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Daily Devotional

EVERY STUDENT IS A TEACHER

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 27 percent of the population over the age of three is enrolled in school. That means there are 76 million students in schools of all kinds, from preschool to university. In comparison, there are 7.2 million teachers in those schools. In our society, the…[Read more]

Hi Jodi

You: Good Morning All,

I want to add a few more,

Being filled with the Spirit does not equate to being born of the Spirit and thus begotten by God?

ME: “BEGOTTEN BY GOD” IS  NOT ONLY A MILE AWAY FROM JOHN’S PROCLAMATION HEREUNDER, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO BE COMPARED WITH:

(A) John1:18 No man hath seen God at any time:
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Thanks for changing the name of the thread to a more appropriate one, since the Biblical earth certainly hasn’t been “challenged” in this thread – as Proclaimer’s title suggested.

Hmmm. Yes your comment has highlighted a potential problem. While the name is better for SEO, I can already see that you are taking advantage of the name change by…[Read more]

If the moon was local and self illuminating, ‘they’ would have advertising on it by now.

Mike…….Do you understand what medaphors are, and why they are used in our scriptures?  They are used to illistrate a “spritual point”,  they must be applied that way in order to get there true meaning.

Adam and Ever were not told to not “eat” of the fruit of a “real tree”,    but God was telling them not to “Take” to themselves” (as you do…[Read more]

Good Morning All,

I want to add a few more,

Being filled with the Spirit does not equate to being born of the Spirit and thus begotten by God?

To have the Spirit of God dwelling in you that does not equate being thus of the Divine nature of God?

When Jesus received the Spirit of God without measure to dwell in him that does not equate to him…[Read more]

New International Version
So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so.

New Living Translation
And that is what happened. God made this space to separate the waters of the earth from the waters of the heavens.

English Standard Version
And God made the expanse and separated the waters that…[Read more]

 Can you see that God named the firmament “HEAVEN” – not “the sky”?

I’ve already said this twice. But I’ve also quoted a scripture that calls the firmament as the sky. I’ll see if I can find that scripture again.

Can you see that the firmament supports waters that are above it?  What exactly are the waters above “the sky” that are being supported by the sky?

I’m pretty sure I’ve answered this multiple times Mike.

I’m not saying I’m right because I haven’t studied this.

Earth was once a water planet with a thick atmosphere. Water exists in solid  liquid,…[Read more]

It is true that the world often means the known world.

But to literally see all of the known world, you may just need to see a part of the four ancient kingdoms around Israel. That said, I am not necessarily arguing that Jesus went up a hill and got a 360 degree view of these ancient kingdoms. I’m just making the point that it could be physically…[Read more]

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Daily Devotional
BY HIS DEATH, THE SAVIOR ENDED SATAN’S POWER
I will hardly speak with you any more; for the prince of the world is coming. He has nothing in me. (John 14.30)

The Commander of the heavenly armies was assailed by the tempter. He did not have a very wide and accessible space to evolve on this earth. He did not have, in…[Read more]

Gene:  Trying to make it about,  did Jesus say that or not, is just another of your usual dervisions from what we are saying…

What?!?!?  😂  So if you and I are arguing some issue, and I quote scripture and say, “Well Gene, here’s what the Bible says about it”, that’s me creating a diversion?

Gene:  Is there an actual “tree” that contains…

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