Great additional support, Berean!  Here’s some more…

Psalm 148 is broken into 2 parts The first part deals with heaven and the things associated with heaven…

1Hallelujah!

Praise the LORD from the heavens; praise Him in the highest places.

2Praise Him, all His angels; praise Him, all His heavenly hosts.

3Praise Him, O sun and moon; praise…[Read more]

YOU and I, and many other videos,  you have posted, have shown him hundreds of proof that his “flat earth” bs,  is wrong, and is being proven constantly wrong by “true” science every single day,  for all to see for themselves. He refuses to accept he is wrong, no matter how much proof is given him.

That’s right gene.

He is not interested…[Read more]

Jodi: Yes, I can concede that is not how people speak or write when they are saying someone is the father of someone, but as said, Luke isn’t talking about just any father and son.

Who or what the person is talking about doesn’t matter, Jodi.  Let’s suppose for argument’s sake that Jesus was God’s literal firstborn son – higher than any being who…[Read more]

@dannyd @berean

Ahhh, dabbs, you are getting it now. Berean missed the point.

There are three heavens.

This solves your waters above the stars problem.

So there is raqia between the water on the surface of our planet and in the sky as clouds that condense as rain and snow.

And then there are stars in the raqia which is probably the second…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of/ek/from/by the Holy Ghost.

Would not Joseph assume that Mary had laid with another man, which would be the reason why…[Read more]

Mike,

I have made it very clear that 1. Mary was a virgin when she conceived and 2., she was FOUND with child ek/by the Holy Spirit. How else is a virgin going to conceive if not by the power of the Highest?

Matthew gives us the BOOK of Jesus’s GENESIS, his GENETIC LINE and that book goes from Abraham to Joseph, you are just going to deny this,…[Read more]

Jodi:  Mary became pregnant by the seed of Joseph where the Holy Spirit came upon her and the power of the Highest  Spirit overshadowed whereby Matthews words true.

I don’t understand.  Walk me through your idea, keeping in mind that Joseph didn’t sleep with Mary until after Jesus was born, and that the angel CLEARLY told Joseph that the child in…[Read more]

Jodi: Here is one,

Romans 15:12 And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.

In the OT in Isaiah 11:10 this word root/ sheresh figurately means, of people involving firmness or permanence.

Try this version…

New American Standard Bible
Again Isa…[Read more]

Jodi: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Hi Mike,</span>

<span style=”color: #ff0000;”>The fact of the matter is Luke 3:23 is saying that Jesus is the son of Joseph and Mathew makes it certain that we are to believe that he is a bio son of Joseph. Don’t lose sight of that.</span>

Hey Jodi.  Mary became pregnant with Jesus before Joseph ever tou…[Read more]

@t8 @genebalthrop

Yes, God called the raqia heaven. But there are three heavens. (2 Corinthians 12:2)
I agree with Mike and Berean that the raqia is not the highest heaven.

Proclaimer:  You forgot one other point, your God is in the raqia

Mike: No, God is not in the raqia.   

Berean :On this point Mike is correct. 

I also say:

ACCORDING TO THESE TEXTS BELOW

We can believe that GOD WITH CHRIST IS IN HEAVEN (Third Heaven), IN PARADISE (NOT THE RAQIYA) 

1Kgs.8

Then hear thou
in heaven thy dwelling place
, and fo…[Read more]

Hi to all

Hère is the Daily Devotional

Love That Is Measureless, January 4
The Lord hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with loving kindness have I drawn thee. Jeremiah 31:3. 

Those who know not God cannot by their learning or science find out God. Christ does not try to prove the g…[Read more]

Thats correct Proclaimer, God called the firmament, “heaven”, or sky. IN SHORT,  EVERYTHING ABOVE THE EARTH,  IS HEAVEN OR HEAVENS.. ie, SKY. 

What Mike does is try to change a common understood wording and complicate it,   then make up his own rendition for it, this is his common deception process,  not only with his “flat earth” , BS,   but wi…[Read more]

The alleged tilt brings the North Pole 3000 miles CLOSER to the sun at the very time the earth itself is 3,000,000 miles FARTHER from the sun… yet the tiny tilt is supposed to overcome the HUGE increase in distance from the heat source, and somehow make it WARMER? Only an idiot would believe such nonsense.

Mike, stop peddling this lie as it i…[Read more]

Simple Version for Mike

No, God is not in the raqia.

Just in case my post above is too complex for you to comprehend, I offer this trimmed down explanation.

God called the raqia heaven and God dwells IN heaven.

Something is awry with your model.

Lol.

No, God is not in the raqia.  Your diversion has been debunked by me at least 4 different times now.

Your statement doesn’t align with scripture.

You can point out this or that, but you haven’t answered why your version of heaven / raqia contradicts scripture.

Easy. Let me explain.

Your model is wrong.

Therefore, you lose Mike.

You see…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  You forgot one other point, your God is in the raqia

No, God is not in the raqia.  Your diversion has been debunked by me at least 4 different times now.  Please either debunk my debunk, or stop claiming the thing that I already debunked.

We all realize that this is just your way of diverting attention away from your “cloud th…[Read more]

Gene:  Mike…..your drawing has nothing to what i believe or have ever said,  so that is a lie…

Boy, your buddy Tater is really teaching you all his bad habits, isn’t he?  Now YOU’RE accusing me of lying too?

Okay.  But let’s see if I really WAS lying to you.

1.  Scripture says God created the raqia to divide the waters above the raqia from t…[Read more]

A picture is worth a thousand words, but will it be worth an apology from Pretender?  He posted this yesterday…

His false accusations against me stem from the part underlined in red at the top.  He somehow has it in his mind that the statement from Eric Dubay that I posted for Berean either directly states or implies that the “scientific c…[Read more]