Gene and Jodi

Many have given you enough proof of the pre-existence of Christ, BUT YOU CONTINUE TO DENY THE TRUTH…. HOW SAD.

Mike……Explaine how the seasons are different at the same time,  in different places in your “flat earth” BS ?  The earth tilted on its axes explanes it “perfectly,”  as it travels around the Sun.  How do you get the change of seasons “at the same time”? All over the world at the same time? 

If anyone is truly interested , you can prove this…[Read more]

Hi to all

Daily Devotional

Fire walking is the act of walking barefoot over a bed of hot coals or stones. It has been used as a rite of passage to test a person’s strength, courage, or faith. Some believe it requires supernatural power, but modern physics has debunked this idea. Can a person walk barefoot over hot coals and not burn their f…[Read more]

Mike…….did you read what Jodi just wrote?   While your at it please notice that all of those words are speaking in a “future tense” , in case your not following, that means it had not happened yet!,  now if Jesus was already alive and existing as you falsely suppose,  and Jesus was already the Son of God, “why would God have said ………[Read more]

Hi Mike,

I hope you’ve had a good week!

ME:

This is what I was first addressing in my next post leading up to Proverbs 8.

1 Chronicles 17, “I will be his father, and he shall be my son…”

Psalms 89, “I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth.”

YOU: These words were originally said about Solomon, right?

ME: No, 1 Chr…[Read more]

Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.

Interesting, Proclaimer, because I have DIRECTLY addressed all 3 of the points you listed.  I guess that means all those condescending words you intended for me, God put right back onto your own head… just like the curse of Balaam.

Chop, chop, Tiger.  The questions are NOT going away.

What is your NEW explanation for the waters above the s…[Read more]

Hey Kathi, I have a lot of posts to you on page 25 when you get back to the thread.  Thanks.

I was just scrolling through some of the posts on that old database.  They are from 12 years ago, and I was enjoying the blast from the past.  But look at me and Gene – even 12 years ago…

We could have had that exchange just yesterday!  Some things never change.  Gene is still wrong after all these years, and I’m still right.  😉

Mike:
Anyway, time’s a wastin’, dude.

It sure is, I’m waiting on 3 things Mike. So far it seems mostly one way traffic. Remember this:

1. Bring back the sun. If the sun goes out of range (sunset) then bring it back like you bring back those small boats that are not over the horizon but go out of visual range.
2. Explain why God is in heaven / raq…

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You’re welcome, Berean.  Keep the questions coming.  I certainly don’t know everything about how our world works, but I know enough to conclude that it certainly isn’t a spinning ball orbiting the sun in an elliptical pattern.

As for the sun reflection post I just made for Proclaimer, I messed the graphic up.  Here it is again – the right wa…[Read more]

Jodi:  I have started a chart that I have titled The Pre-existence Debate and of course John 8 is on there. I am hoping to share it soon and as debate continues I can always add to it.

You’re welcome to use the Preexistence Scriptural Database that I began right here 12 years ago if you want.  I just kept editing the first post as people p…[Read more]

Mike

Thank You for your documentation…

I’ve seen a little, but it’s not clear yet….

🙏

Oh, just thought of an English example of a “historical present” that was described in my previous post.  Picture a 14 year old girl talking to her BFF…

And then she goes, well I liked Brian first!  And so I say, that doesn’t matter, because he likes me, not you!  And then she is all like, I hate you!

The bolded words are all English present te…[Read more]

Berean: No Jodi, I’m not fooled.
Before Abraham WAS, THE SON OF GOD EXISTED!
IT’S NOT COMPLICATED.

THIS IS CONFIRMED BY JOHN 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. 

…..with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

SIMPLICITY JODI

That is 100% scriptura…[Read more]

Jodi:  From atoms, to cells, to looking at entire eco systems, we see creations of God’s wisdom.

Sounds to me like you’re conflating “the wisdom IN God’s creation” with various different “creations OF God’s wisdom” – as if God created different “wisdoms” with each thing He created.

But I’m sure we’ll touch on Prov 8 again in the new thread whe…[Read more]

Jodi:  We all just keep going around in circles and I think this will stop that where I have hopes that people will finally give explanations to scriptures that I see are being ignored.

Amen!  That’s precisely the reason I urged Kathi to start this thread, and the reason we now have our own preexistence thread.  Enough circling already! 😎

Carmel: Christ of God – Luke 9:20  JESUS, THE MIGHTY GOD, Isaiah 9:6, THE HIGHEST, NOT THE FATHER,

GODMAN! 

Christ and Messiah both mean refer to someone who was anointed by God for a specific task/purpose.  The Bible includes many different christs/messiahs – Jesus being one of them.

So the title “Christ/Messiah of God” simply means that Jesus…[Read more]

Jodi:  You are removing words of the text to show me that my interpretation doesn’t match the text? That sounds odd my friend.

I was trying to make it easier for you to see that Jesus is the firstborn of ALL creation…. AND ALSO the firstborn from among the dead.  But I’m going to defer to our new private thread for this and all other pre…[Read more]

Jodi: Hi Mike,

This is what I was first addressing in my next post leading up to Proverbs 8.

1 Chronicles 17, “I will be his father, and he shall be my son…”

Psalms 89, “I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth.”

These words were originally said about Solomon, right?

Jodi:  There was NO SON YET and NO FIRSTBORN…

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