Simple Version for Mike

No, God is not in the raqia.

Just in case my post above is too complex for you to comprehend, I offer this trimmed down explanation.

God called the raqia heaven and God dwells IN heaven.

Something is awry with your model.

Lol.

No, God is not in the raqia.  Your diversion has been debunked by me at least 4 different times now.

Your statement doesn’t align with scripture.

You can point out this or that, but you haven’t answered why your version of heaven / raqia contradicts scripture.

Easy. Let me explain.

Your model is wrong.

Therefore, you lose Mike.

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Proclaimer:  You forgot one other point, your God is in the raqia

No, God is not in the raqia.  Your diversion has been debunked by me at least 4 different times now.  Please either debunk my debunk, or stop claiming the thing that I already debunked.

We all realize that this is just your way of diverting attention away from your “cloud th…[Read more]

Gene:  Mike…..your drawing has nothing to what i believe or have ever said,  so that is a lie…

Boy, your buddy Tater is really teaching you all his bad habits, isn’t he?  Now YOU’RE accusing me of lying too?

Okay.  But let’s see if I really WAS lying to you.

1.  Scripture says God created the raqia to divide the waters above the raqia from t…[Read more]

A picture is worth a thousand words, but will it be worth an apology from Pretender?  He posted this yesterday…

His false accusations against me stem from the part underlined in red at the top.  He somehow has it in his mind that the statement from Eric Dubay that I posted for Berean either directly states or implies that the “scientific c…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

Back to Luke,

Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. 23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

24 the son of…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

If you could please address the below,

Matthew 1 is giving us the BOOK of Jesus’s origin, his genetic line of whom he was begotten from to establish that he is thus a bio son of Abraham and David, that BOOK OF JESUS’s origin goes from Abraham to Joseph. Joseph is without question the bio father of Jesus according to Matthew. Mary became…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

Here is one,

Romans 15:12 And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.

In the OT in Isaiah 11:10 this word root/ sheresh figurately means, of people involving firmness or permanence, in Isaiah 11:1

Rev 221:6 I Jesus have sent mine angel to…[Read more]

Mike…..your drawing has nothing to what i believe or have ever said,  so that is a lie, but it is more like your “flat earth” BS,  WHERE “YOU” BELIEVE,  THE SUN AND MOON ARE WITHIN “THE DOME”.  Don’t try to pass if of on something i said. Because that, is a lie.

What you only  prove is this, “it’s hard to catch a snake, in a brair patc…[Read more]

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You forgot one other point

The graphic Danny posted explains clearly what the scriptures teach – with the exception that the artist put the sun, moon and stars just below the raqia, when they are actually IN the raqia.

God called the raqia heaven. And God dwells in heaven. So you and Danny also need to place God below the waters where the stars a…[Read more]

Stop lying Mike

Clearly you were misleading berean about the sun distance being the consensus on these varying temperatures. Grow up and own it Mike. You live in a fantasy pizza world where lies are truth and truth are lies. You even lie about the very statement you were clearly making. You said:

If the heat from the Sun traveled 93,000,000 miles…

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Proclaimer: Danny God called the raqia heaven and scripture is clear that God is in heaven. So you need to place God below the waters if you are sticking to your definition of raqia / dome. Please amend. If not,then you do not really believe this and you should be honest about that.

The graphic Danny posted explains clearly what the scriptures…[Read more]

Proclaimer: Which you are using as YOUR argument to convince berean. So take responsibility.

Yes, I clearly used a few paragraphs from Eric Dubay’s “200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball”.

Proclaimer:  If not the scientific consensus, then who exactly is Eric and yourself trying to debunk in this 200 BS proofs?

This is a real question Mike. W…

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Mike:  That was my point, Gene.  The waters above the firmament are ABOVE the sun, moon, and stars.  

Berean:  Hi Mike,

Biblically that is correct.
AND clouds are BELOW THE SUN, MOON AND STARS…RIGHT?

Yes Berean… that is Biblically and scientifically correct.  The Bible doesn’t lie about the age of our world or the shape of it.  Real science…[Read more]

Jodi: The fact of the matter is Luke 3:23 is saying that Jesus is the son of Joseph and Mathew makes it certain that we are to believe that he is a bio son of Joseph.

How many times do we have to go through this?  Jodi, did Mary become pregnant by Joseph?  Yes or No please.

Jodi:  …wouldn’t people have just supposed that Joseph, being Mary’…

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Jodi: This was THE WORD that was made true in the flesh of Jesus of Nazareth…

You listed an Isaiah passage in which Yahweh prophesied about a coming PERSON, and then concluded that this PERSON was the word(s) that Yahweh spoke.  🤔

By the way, John doesn’t say the Word came to be “made true IN the flesh of Jesus”, Jodi.  He says the Word BE…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

The fact of the matter is Luke 3:23 is saying that Jesus is the son of Joseph and Mathew makes it certain that we are to believe that he is a bio son of Joseph. Don’t lose sight of that. But with that being said, I am wondering if it crossed your mind, that the author of Luke is saying that people thought Joseph was Jesus’s father just…[Read more]

Jodi: The bible doesn’t contradict, you just misinterpret.

You haven’t mentioned a single contradiction in my interpretation of scripture – and so I don’t know why you would even say such a thing.  Maybe expose one of my contradictions first, and then we can talk about who is misinterpreting what.

Thanks.

Jodi: As far as Jesus being the root of David,

Rev 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the of…

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