Jodi, I, transfered this from your last post to Mike, because i thought it is so important for everyone to read…….Micah 5:2 But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel, whose coming forth is from of old, from ancient days. 3 Therefore will…[Read more]

Mike:  Would you agree that the most straightforward reading of Micah 5:2 tells of a future ruler who has already been around for a long time? 

 

Jodi:  Actually no, reading it straight forward I see,

from you  (Judah) shall “come forth” a ruler in Israel, which would be a prophecy, then reading,  “whose coming forth” is from of old, from an…

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Jodi……Sorry to but in Sis, but you are apsolutely 100% right.  Hope Mike and others are able to follow and understand your last post clearly.

Peace and love to you and yours……….gene

Would you agree that the Father and the Word are uncreated spirit beings of the same type? Would you agree that they are of a different type to the created spirit beings?

Do you believe that the Father and Son act as two opposing gods

OR

two beings who are both in the form of God acting interdependently towards the same purpose?

Mike,

You asked:

If the Father ALONE can be “God” for John, then there’s no reason that the Father ALONE can’t ALWAYS be “God” for everyone.

John 1:18:

How many are called “God” here, Mike:

No one has ever yet seen God. The only begotten God, the One being in the bosom of the Father, He has made Him known.

Is John referring to two persons as…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

Micah 5:2 But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel, whose coming forth is from of old, from ancient days. 3 Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his bre…[Read more]

Mike,

You said:

Is my last statement above correct, Kathi?

NO. Start from the first page of the topic. Count the verses.

Mike,

Regarding Israel as a “him,” if I remember right, Jerusalem is being referred to within Israel (him/he) and Jerusalem is a “her/she.”

Hi Danny,

You said: If Jesus is Yahweh then Jesus is His own Father.

OR

Jesus was given His Father’s name.

John 17:11…Holy Father, protect them by Your name, the name You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one. 12While I was with them, I protected and preserved them by Your name, the name You gave Me. 

Jeremiah 23:5 Behold, the da…[Read more]

Alrighty, so if I am hearing you right you see Jesus as being born of God as a Son of God 3 times, first overall of the creation that God says will pass away, second when he was born of Mary, and lastly when he rose from the dead.

As you could probably figure at this point, I believe Jesus was born a human, then he was born of the Spirit at the…[Read more]

Oh gosh, I haven’t ever talked to text, lol, that was just my own error. I think it’s weird because I am so use to writing these things and not speaking much that I would almost prefer to write to someone and have them read it and then discuss it, than speak to them directly about it. It comes out clearer and more in depth if I am writing it out.…[Read more]

Jodi:  This man from the tribe of Judah whose origin is from ancient of days being of the seed of Abraham would come forth to be a ruler in Israel according to God’s word from ancient of days, from the time of Abraham and even before, from the beginning.

Notice that, even according to your own words above, it is the MAN whose origin is from an…[Read more]

Jodi:  lol I just realized that I said out ways instead of out weighs, oops. I am sure you knew what I meant

Yeah, I knew.  I just figured you were doing talk-to-text and that’s how your phone spelled it. 😅

Jodi: Mike, which is it? He was conceived by the Holy Spirit or he was a spirit entity being sent down from heaven into a woman’s uterus being transformed into a human? These seem like two different things to me so please explain. What does that even mean, being conceived by the Holy Spirit?

I believe that Jesus existed in the form of a god, th…[Read more]

lol I just realized that I said out ways instead of out weighs, oops. I am sure you knew what I meant 😉

Micah 5:2 But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel, whose coming forth is from of old, from ancient days. 3 Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren shall…[Read more]

Jodi:  Second, the Gospel writers wrote after the Son of Man ascended to sit at God’s right hand right?

This is another point of disagreement between us that has no bearing on whether or not Jesus existed in heaven before existing on earth as a human being.  Therefore I have no interest in this particular point at this time.  Maybe some other time…[Read more]

Jodi: Hi Mike,

First off, you STILL have not addressed Matthew 1 and him giving us the BOOK OF Jesus’s GENESIS/ORIGIN, the BOOK OF his GENEA/GENETIC LINE.

Hi Jodi.  Joseph adopting Jesus as his own son even though Joseph knew that he had nothing whatsoever to do with the existence of this child that was conceived – not by Joseph but by the Hol…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

First off, you STILL have not addressed Matthew 1 and him giving us the BOOK OF Jesus’s GENESIS/ORIGIN, the BOOK OF his GENEA/GENETIC LINE. 

Second, the Gospel writers wrote after the Son of Man ascended to sit at God’s right hand right?

Before he ascended after he rose from the dead Jesus even taught them of the OT scriptures…[Read more]

@t8

You mentioned in 3 recent posts that the writers of the Bible were lacking knowledge about how our world really is.

Do you stand by that statement?  Yes or No?

*Honest and respectful questions deserve honest and respectful answers from people who are sincerely seeking nothing but the truth.