Yes, God named the raqia heaven

Awesome. And Paul was caught up to the third heaven.

So if God was in heaven, then he can easily create an expanse or space for the stars and also space or an expanse to divide the waters to below and above. That is, seas, lakes, rivers, etc from clouds which are the same waters in gas form.

Bada bing bada…[Read more]

PROCLAIMER, DOES THE PLURAL WORD “DAYS” EVER REFER TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN LITERAL DAYS IN THE BIBLE?  YES OR NO?  AND IF YES, SHOW THE SCRIPTURE(S) IN WHICH IT IS EXPLICITLY AND UNDENIABLY MADE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT THESE DAYS ARE INDEED SOMETHING OTHER THAN LITERAL DAYS.
The first time I asked it, you ignored it.

The second time I asked it, y…

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Pretender, since you refused to honor the previous question by producing any scripture that makes it explicitly clear that the days in Gen 1 are anything other than regular 24 hour days (each with a single morning and a single evening, and equated to literal days by God Himself in Ex 20:11 and 31:17), I will accept this refusal as a direct answer…

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If i were Proclaimer, i would have changed the title  to, “The Flat Earth BS”  by MIKE ,   so everyone could see that it was your doing,  not this site.  Changing it to “Biblical Cosmology”  only helped you out,  by making it apear as  if  your  flat earth,   “stupidy”, ever really had any real true importance in the first place?

It wil…[Read more]

Proclaimer, would you like me to directly address your sun challenge again? Or would you like some time to let my moon cartoon sink in first?

Moon cartoon clearly debunked.

Yes, show me an instance where the sun has set and then bring it back again.

Just like those boats that have set so to speak and are brought back.

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@Proclaimer

Here is the post again for the second time, please answer:

Would you agree that the Father and the Word are uncreated spirit beings of the same type? Would you agree that they are of a different type to the created spirit beings?

Do you believe that the Father and Son act as two opposing gods

OR

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NOPE.

Look at your own FE model. Your moon is close and small. Not far away as the heliocentric model says.

So stand facing another person across a room. Suspend a basketball to the ceiling in the middle of the room.

You will be looking at different sides of the ball.

PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY YOUR INTERPRETATION OF GENESIS 1 HAS GOD CREATING LIGHT AFTER IT ALREADY EXISTED, CREATING HEAVEN AFTER IT ALREADY EXISTED, CREATING EARTH AFTER IT ALREADY EXISTED, AND CREATING THE LUMINARIES AFTER THEY ALREADY EXISTED.

Already answered this multiple times. Please pay attention.

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1. ARE THE SUN, MOON, AND STARS IN THE RAQIA? YES OR NO?
2. ARE THE WATERS ABOVE THE RAQIA?  YES OR NO?
3. DOES THIS REQUIRE THE WATERS TO BE ABOVE THE SUN, MOON, AND STARS? YES OR NO?

1. Not sure. If the bible absolutely says IN then it is yes.

2. Not sure. If the bible absolutely says ABOVE then it is yes.

3. No.

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Jodi: Jesus response in verse 58, is STILL in the context of their prior question, is he greater than Abraham…. He responds to their entirely stupid question remaining  still in the context of if he is greater than Abraham and how is he exactly greater than Abraham. 

In which part of Jesus’ response, exactly, is Jesus saying he is greater th…[Read more]

GENE AND PRETENDER:
IF YOU GUYS ARE TRULY TRUTH SEEKERS, AND THERE’S NO REASON TO HIDE FROM THE TRUTH, PROVE IT BY ADDRESSING THIS REQUEST THAT I’VE MADE MANY TIMES ALREADY…
PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY YOUR INTERPRETATION OF  GEN 1 HAS GOD CREATING LIGHT AFTER IT ALREADY EXISTED, CREATING HEAVEN AFTER IT ALREADY EXISTED, CREATING EARTH AFTER IT ALREAD…[Read more]

GENE AND PROCLAIMER:
IF YOU GUYS ARE TRULY TRUTH SEEKERS, AND THERE’S NO REASON TO HIDE FROM THE TRUTH, PROVE IT BY ANSWERING ALL 3 OF THESE QUESTIONS DIRECTLY, WITH A YES OR A NO.
1. ARE THE SUN, MOON, AND STARS IN THE RAQIA? YES OR NO?
2. ARE THE WATERS ABOVE THE RAQIA?  YES OR NO?
3. DOES THIS REQUIRE THE WATERS TO BE ABOVE THE SUN, MOON, AN…[Read more]

PRETENDER AND GENE:
GOD CREATED THE RAQIA ON DAY 2.
1.  WHERE WAS GOD LIVING BEFORE THEN?
2.  DID GOD MOVE INTO THE RAQIA AFTER HE CREATED IT?
3.  OR DOES GOD STILL DWELL WHERE HE ALWAYS DID… OUTSIDE OF OUR PHYSICAL REALM?
HONEST AND RESPECTFUL QUESTIONS DESERVE HONEST AND RESPECTFUL ANSWERS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE SINCERELY SEEKING NOTHING BUT THE…[Read more]

Proclaimer, would you like me to know directly address your sun challenge that also doesn’t prove we live on a ball?  Or would you like some time to let my moon cartoon sink in first?

Oh, and if we DO discuss your sun challenge, are you going to participate in a fair and open dialogue about it?  Or just ignore my posts and keep on posting lies a…[Read more]

Proclaimer: Yes gene, Mike ignores truth. Take this one fact. It disproves the earth is flat and proves it is a globe.

But Mike has shown zero interest in doing this simple experiment just like he is not interested in using his camera to zoom in after sunset to bring the sun back into view. He ignores proof and continues to peddle lies.

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Hi Mike,

John 8:53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? 54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: 55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I…[Read more]

Btw Proclaimer, there’s a new question for you in our private thread. Chop chop.

And don’t forget about the three posts in a row with easy questions for you on the previous page of this thread. Chop chop.

Another case in point is your moon argument. The very first time you brought it up, I told you I was willing to do it and I asked you to set it up.

Did you do that?  Of course not, because it’s much easier for people with your mentality to just keep shouting it as if it is something I am running away from and have not already directly…[Read more]

The problem is that I’ve already shown you the flaw in your “bring back the sun” argument.  In fact, I’m very happy to do it again. There’s only one question… will you be honorable enough to actually participate in a discussion about it?

That means making your own arguments (“this proves a ball earth”)… but also directly addressing my…[Read more]

Mike simply ignores truth

Take this. It disproves the earth is flat and proved it is a globe.

But Mike has shown zero interest in doing this simple experiment just like he is not interested in using his camera to zoom in after sunset to bring the sun back into view.

Whrn s man cares not for truth he becomes by default a tool for the father of lies.