Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 8 months ago
Using “expanse”, Genesis 1 says God created the expanse to separate the waters below the expanse from the waters above the expanse.
You say that this refers to the space between the sea and the clouds. Okay.
A few verses later we’re told that God created the sun, moon and stars and placed them in THAT expense.
God separated the waters with an ex…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 8 months ago
So your understanding, where the clouds are the waters above the expanse, requires the sun, moon and stars to be in the raqia that is between the sea and the clouds, since it is the ONLY raqia God ever created.
God called the raqia – heaven. How many heavens are there again?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 8 months ago
But The throne of God is not in the raqyia*, that’s for sure.
He was on His throne, in His Heaven BEFORE creating our Raqyia called “Heaven”
Maybe. But is heaven created or not. Does God live in heaven like we live on earth, or did he create heaven. If the latter, then God was outside creation when he made creation which includes heaven. Commo…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 8 months ago
Thanks gene. Mike is definitely batting for the other team.
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 8 months ago
Gene
He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath…[Read more]GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 8 months ago
Proclaimer…….Mike is still trying to play his smoke and mirror games with you, the true fact is that the word raqia, simply means, in English, the Sky, or Heavens, which simply means whats out or up there, from the earth, we live on.
But you see, he has us talking about his stupid ideas, which are only destractions from more impor…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 8 months ago
Berean……Actually is should read , “Jesus, thought not to rob God , by making himself equal with him , but humbled himself and became obedient unto him , even to the death on the cross” . But even if you read the way you do, it still shows Jesus’, “first love” Was God the Father , not himself, or anyone else either. If we don’t develope the…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 8 months ago
Proclaimer: The bible translates raqia as expanse and sky.
The Bible uses the Hebrew word raqia. It doesn’t “translate” that word as anything. But let’s run with your misinformation to see where it leads…
Using “expanse”, Genesis 1 says God created the expanse to separate the waters below the expanse from the waters above the expanse.
You s…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi to all
Here is the Daily Devotional
WAS JESUS HUMAN OR DIVINE WHEN HE WAS ON THIS EARTH?
Some find it difficult to harmonize the idea that Jesus was both human and divine. “If Christ was human, then how could He “see” Nathaniel praying under a fig tree?” (John 1:46–49). Yet the Bible is full of statements that emphasize the divinity…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 8 months ago
And it is true that God called the raqia – heaven.
And God dwells in heaven
Me
But The throne of God is not in the raqyia*, that’s for sure.
He was on His throne, in His Heaven BEFORE creating our Raqyia called “Heaven”
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 8 months ago
Sunsets are impossible on a flat earth
#bringbackthesun
#flerfscantdomath
#mikeisscaredofsunsetsProclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 8 months ago
Bahahaha! Great comeback Berean. You roasted me.
Seriously though, I’m betting even your SDA doesn’t teach the flat earth.
You may need to make a decision about which cult / denomination to take orders from.
If Genesis teaches that there is a sky, then birds fly there, clouds are there, stars are there etc.
Still works on a globe Berean.
Berean replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 8 months ago
This is what Genesis 1 teaches.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 8 months ago
What is the main proof you have to support this? Keep it simple please.
Berean replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 8 months ago
The raqyia of Genesis 1 IS SPECIFIC AND FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE 👉 THE SUN, THE MOON AND THE STARS EVOLVE ON IT (UPPER LAYER) AND THE BIRDS ALSO. NOT FORGETTING THE CLOUDS (BOTTOM LAYER)
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike. How many skies are there in the bible. Perhaps one. How many heavens – maybe one. But you can also reference the sky between two layers of water – clouds and sea. You can reference the heaven where the birds fly. Common sense is lacking in your understanding.
The bible translates raqia as expanse and sky. And God called it heaven. Get use…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 8 months ago
Mike……You said, “NO”, to my question about the ISS “INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION” that anyone can see for themselves traveling around our earth 24/7 , 365 days a year , transmitting it’s view of this earth to us, EVERY SECOND of every day . NOW sense your a real “honest person” as you present yourself, then please proceed to tell us , what…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 8 months ago
Good Morning Mike,
I am really glad that I caught what you said in your last post before I went to post what I had intended to post because it wouldn’t have sat well due to your lack of knowledge or belief in something clearly laid out as a fundamental truth. I’ve got to change up a bit what I was originally going to post.
Last night I gave…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 8 months ago
Carmel……..Until God the Father become you “first love” you will never be excepted by him, or Jesus . Jesus said (not me)……“many in that day will come and say unto me, in “YOUR NAME” we did all these works , and i will profess unto them, depart from me you worker of “iniquity”, i know you not from whence you are”. Yes that was what h…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 8 months ago
Pretender, how many raqias are mentioned in the Bible? Remember that the word is always proceeded by the definite article, (ie: THE raqia), and is always a singular word in the Bible. Remember that it is often called “THE raqia OF heaven” in the Bible.
How many raqias are specifically mentioned in the Bible, Pretender?
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