Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 7 months ago
Sunsets can’t happen on a flat earth
Prove me wrong!
To scared>
I can’t quite tell if this one is a matter of your stupidity or your dishonesty. Sometimes it’s very hard to tell when someone is equally stupid and dishonest.
A scientific model is never said to “PREDICT” a phenomenon that is already known, often observed, and well studied.…
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike,
YOU: Great. I read all your scriptures, and didn’t see any of them that refer to Abraham rejoicing to see Jesus’ day. Just like you finally acknowledged that there are no prophesies to Abraham about a future ruler, you’ll have to honestly acknowledge that there are no scriptures that say Abraham rejoiced to see Jesus’ day.
Me: That is wr…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike,
You don’t think that the day Jesus was talking about that the prophet Abraham saw, was the day spoken of in the below passages?
Malachi 4:1-2 “For behold, the day is coming, burning like a furnace; and all the arrogant and every evildoer will be chaff; and the day that is coming will set them ablaze,” says the Lord of hosts, “so tha…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike,
YOU: Great. I read all your scriptures, and didn’t see any of them that refer to Abraham rejoicing to see Jesus’ day. Just like you finally acknowledged that there are no prophesies to Abraham about a future ruler, you’ll have to honestly acknowledge that there are no scriptures that say Abraham rejoiced to see Jesus’ day.[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike,
Sorry but you failed again.
PLEASE directly speak to these words,
Matthew 1:1 1 The book of the generation(Genesis/origin) of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob and Jacob begat Judas…..and Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob; And Jacob…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 7 months ago
The point is that YOU keep thinking that the raqia OF heaven is the entirety of heaven when it’s not. The raqia OF heaven is NOT the first heaven where the clouds are. The raqia OF heaven is not the third heaven where God dwells – outside of the physical world He created for us. The raqia is ONLY the second heaven, where the sun, moon and st…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike,
Worry I forgot to include at the beginning of my past post NO, so I went back up and added it.
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 7 months ago
Mike: A model that came thousands of years AFTER a phenomenon that had already been witnessed by BILLIONS of people cannot possibly be said to “PREDICT” that phenomenon.
Pretender: Reality check.
Tomorrow, the sun will set according to the heliocentric model so yes it predicts.
I can’t quite tell if this one is a matter of your stupi…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 7 months ago
Pretender: I am not sure of the point being made.
Of course you’re not, because Danny didn’t take you by the hand and dumb things down for you, or make you a cartoon.
The point is that YOU keep thinking that the raqia OF heaven is the entirety of heaven when it’s not. The raqia OF heaven is NOT the first heaven where the clouds are. The ra…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 7 months ago
Pretender: Moon cartoon clearly debunked.
Well, you certainly posted a lot of nonsensical words about it, but no, you didn’t debunk it. I don’t know if I can make it easier for you than a cartoon, but here’s an attempt…
Pretender, the next time the moon is DIRECTLY above you, look at it while facing east. Then turn around and look at it fr…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike,
YOU:
“In which part of Jesus’ response, exactly, is Jesus saying he is greater than Abraham? Which exact words?”
“Do you acknowledge that IF we translated the last part of 8:58 as a historical present, the EXACT phrase would be, “before Abraham existed, I existed”? Yes or No, please?”
ME:
Before Abraham was (Ginomai), I am (Eimi…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 7 months ago
You recently implied in 3 different posts that the writers of the Bible were lacking in knowledge about how our world really is.
Is that truly what you believe? Yes or No?
*Honest and respectful questions deserve honest and respectful answers from people who are sincerely seeking nothing but the truth.
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 7 months ago
Mike: 1. ARE THE SUN, MOON, AND STARS IN THE RAQIA? YES OR NO?
2. ARE THE WATERS ABOVE THE RAQIA? YES OR NO?
3. DOES THIS REQUIRE THE WATERS TO BE ABOVE THE SUN, MOON, AND STARS? YES OR NO?
Proclaimer: 1. Not sure. If the bible absolutely says IN then it is yes.
2. Not sure. If the bible absolutely says ABOVE then it is yes.
3. No.
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 7 months ago
Gene: Mike……Lets boil this down to a simple experment anyone here can do ok? , let all take a pair of cheep benouclars and and see for “ourselve” The ISS, “INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION”, and then go to the internet and find it, and the pictures it is transmitting to us 24 hours a day 365 days a year, and all see for ourselves if the earth is flat…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 7 months ago
Jodi: I will address, “before Abraham was, I am” in my next post.
Great. I read all your scriptures, and didn’t see any of them that refer to Abraham rejoicing to see Jesus’ day. Just like you finally acknowledged that there are no prophesies to Abraham about a future ruler, you’ll have to honestly acknowledge that there are no script…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike ,
YOU: So I’m not really sure which prophecy specifically about Jesus that Abraham supposedly rejoiced over.
ME:
John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
Abraham was called a prophet by God in Genesis 20, surely the day that he rejoiced over is the very day we read about in a great number of p…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 7 months ago
Jodi: Mike, unless I have missed it, you have not directly addressed the direct text of Matthew 1, please explain how you can reach the conclusion that Matthew is not actually giving us Jesus’s genetic origin, even though he clearly states that is exactly what he is doing.
I can’t imagine that you’ve missed it, since I’ve addressed it multiple ti…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 7 months ago
Gene
If Christ were only a man, HE WOULD BE A SINNER LIKE ALL MEN
“FOR ALL HAVE SINNED AND HAVE BEEN DEPRIVED FROM THE GLORY OF GOD”AND THEREFORE A SINNING CHRIST NEEDS A SAVIOUR…
BUT THE BIBLE LET US KNOW WE ARE SAVED BY GOD “THROUGH THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS CHRIST (THE SON OF GOD MADE MAN)
👇
JESUS SAVIOUR
1John.4
And we have se…[Read more]mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 3 years, 7 months ago
Jodi: Hi Mike,
There is a lot to clear up! I want to start with this,
YOU: 4. And is that because the “origin” of an event is not normally counted as the time the event was planned for the future, but the time the event actually began to occur? Yes or No, please?
ME:
My primary stance that I have given concerning Micah 5:2, is the truth that…
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 7 months ago
Mike……Lets boil this down to a simple experment anyone here can do ok? , let all take a pair of cheep benouclars and and see for “ourselve” The ISS, “INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION”, and then go to the internet and find it, and the pictures it is transmitting to us 24 hours a day 365 days a year, and all see for ourselves if the earth is flat…[Read more]
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