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    Mike: Berean, 👍🙂🙏😁

     

    Proclaimer: Translation:  As long as you support flat earth and myself, I will give you a thumbs up.

    See, this is what 14 years of practice does for me.  I immediately recognize that your mindless insult-laden fluff piece is your way of admitting defeat while trying to keep your prideful superiority complex in…[Read more]

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    Pretender: Yes, the Lord dwells in heaven.

    But are you saying that heaven was not created?

    If it was, then before creation God was not in heaven.

    Simple.

    Yep, it really IS that simple.  That’s why Berean and Danny both posted information on this subject for you… information that you ignored despite Danny throwing it back in the thread and t…[Read more]

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    Berean:  The raqyia of Genesis 1 IS SPECIFIC AND FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE   THE SUN, THE MOON AND THE STARS EVOLVE ON IT (UPPER LAYER) AND THE BIRDS ALSO. NOT FORGETTING THE CLOUDS (BOTTOM LAYER)

     

    Proclaimer:  What is the main proof you have to support this? Keep it simple please.

     

    Berean:  This is what Genesis 1 teaches.

     

    Proclaimer: 

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    Pretender and Gene (As Seen on TV) Balthop…

    FACT #1… The Hebrew word “yowm” – just like our English word “day” – can be used idiomatically to refer to a general, unspecified period of time, ie: “back in the day of Abraham Lincoln”.

    FACT #2…  The plural word “days” has never – in the Bible or in the entire history of mankind – been used in…[Read more]

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    To all…….I believe Jesus’ death is off by 33 years,  notice how they calculate the years , as BC , (BEFORE CHRIST) , and the AD,  (AFTER CHRIST)   what happened to the years of his life , they left it out, Jesus lived 33 years aprox. Between his birth and his death  right.  So we must pick them up some where right , we have to add the 33 years…[Read more]

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    Pretender:  God called the raqia – heaven. Is there just one heaven.

    There is just one raqia.  Stars are IN it, and waters are ABOVE it.  Trying to conflate raqia and heaven exposes your desperation as much as when you try to insert a bunch of illegitimate words for raqia.

    The bottom line is that you can call the raqia “expanse”, “sky”, “hea…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer said……..”I think this might explain berean is in the SDA. Organisations like that do your thinking for you and attract people who want answers, but not have to seek deeply for them, but have them handed on a plate. So they end up with a form of blind faith because is it not written that some will hear the words, “I never knew y…[Read more]

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    LU……Jesus said, (not me) ….“Father this is eternal life, that they may come to know you,  the “ONLY”  true God, ……. and Jesus christ who you have sent. 

    LU, the question is , do you “truly believe Jesus and what he said? 

    Peace and love to you and yours LU………..gene

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    Flat Earth Scientist gives evidence

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    One more

    On a flat earth, how can the Tropic of Capricorn have less circumference than the equator?

    Definitely good night.

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    The Flat earth sun must be travelling at mach 2.7. Lol.
    Flat-earthers like to complain about the equator moving at 1,000 mph due to the earth spinning. of course there is nothing to be concerned about because it only travels at that speed due to the size of the earth. In reality, it does one revolution in 24 hours.

    But here’s the thing. If the…[Read more]

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    This little exchange sums up the entire debate quite nicely. There are people pointing out what God’s written word actually says about a matter, and other people LAUGHING at what God’s written word says about it – as if “this is what the scriptures say” is some kind of a joke or something. Shame.

    Once again you misunderstand. It was his answer, n…[Read more]

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    God is eternal.

    He inhabits creation by his Spirit.

    He is outside creation because not even heaven can contain him.

    His Spirit flows from the throne of God and the river of life through the paradise of God.

    Beyond the throne is God.

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    Proclaimer

    1 Kings 8:27
    But will God really inhabit the earth? behold, heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain you; how much less this house that I built?

    Jeremiah 23:24
    Will anyone stand in a hidden place, Unseen by me? says the Lord. Do I not fill the heavens and the earth? says the Lord.

    How does God fill the heavens and the…[Read more]

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    Yes, the Lord dwells in heaven.

    But are you saying that heaven was not created?

    If it was, then before creation God was not in heaven.

    Simple.

    If heaven always existed and God is inside. Then is heaven bigger than God like earth is bigger than you?

    Something for you to meditate on.

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    One more.

    In a flat earth, how can the Tropic of Capricorn have less circumference than the equator?

    Definitely good night.

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    Therefore, the waters above are not only above the raqia, but also above the luminaries that are IN the raqia.

    It doesn’t matter if you call it “skies”, because then the luminaries would be IN the skies and the waters would still be ABOVE the skies.

    Great, let’s call it skies.

    So there is a sky and a watery planet. God makes some sky betwe…[Read more]

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    The Flat earth sun must be travelling at mach 2.7. Lol.
    Flat-earthers like to complain about the equator moving at 1,000 mph due to the earth spinning. But if the Sun is over one point on Earth and 12 hours later is over another point on the opposite side, something must be traveling thousands of miles per hour.

    Let’s look at the flat-earth model…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic LU/Jodi Discussion in the forum Debates 3 years, 8 months ago

    Jodi,

    You said:

     Jesus is being declared in the book of Matthew a rightful heir to David’s throne through being the bio son of Joseph.

    I say that Jesus is being declared in the book of Matthew, a rightful heir to David’s throne through being the bio son of Mary who is married to Joseph who is of the line of David.

    I do think that Gabriel wo…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    You said:

    IF THE FATHER ALONE CAN BE “GOD” FOR JOHN, THEN THERE’S NO REASON THAT THE FATHER ALONE CAN’T ALWAYS BE “GOD” FOR EVERYONE.

    But John speaks of two who are theos. It is only the Father theos that is unseen. The other theos mentioned is seen and is in the bosom of the Father.

    For John, both the unseen Father and the Son who explain…[Read more]

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