Proclaimer replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
THAT THEY MAY KNOW THEE, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
One is the ONLY TRUE GOD
The other is JESUS CHRIST, the one whom the true God sent.
God and his Son.
carmel replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Hi Berean,
You: The Son IS God in infinity (essence, nature…) BUT NOT IN PERSONALITY.
Only GOD THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN PERSON.
Me: ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT THE FATHER AS A PERSON IS
GOD IN FLESH!
Now read what Jesus Said:
John 17:2 As thou hast given him power OVER ALL FLESH,
that he may give eternal life to all whom thou hast g…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Good Proclaimer ! 🙏
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 5 months ago
I was clear about how we discover truth. I gave a few examples. I still believe what I said. Further I feel that uou have little respect for scripture.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
I agree Berean.
Berean replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
As I understand it…if interdependent, then God is more than one person.
Hi LU
God ( the Father) IS ONE PERSON
it does not matter whether you consider it to be interdependent on the Son or not.
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. (Eph.4:6)
The Son IS God in infinity (essence, nature…) BUT NOT IN…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 5 months ago
LU…….Point is, if Jesus is the “only” begotten” son, Then there could not be any other sons of God, get it! , so when Jesus said, “that we all have ONLY “ONE” father who is in heaven, then he would have been lying, right? SO the “monogenes” scripture has to be talking about him being the only begotten son into the kingdom of God at…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 5 months ago
Hi to all
Here is the Daily Devotional
SINGING TO GOD
We all know that birds, bugs, and frogs are natural singers. But other animals that sing include some fish, mice, and bats—usually too high pitched for human ears—humpbacks whales, belugas, and even certain species of ground squirrels. In most instances, he is a male serenading a fema…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 5 months ago
Hi Proclaimer,
You: Scripture, logic, and history all disprove the Trinity.
Me: Now you deviated from the subject.
We are discussing the verification pf TRUTH in this world.
I gave you a rather childish example to be clear and simple and you ignored it.
I maintain my point and conclude what I started myself.
So the only way for me to make…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 5 months ago
FORGET SCRIPTURE!
Scripture, logic, and history all disprove the Trinity.
You cannot apply much if any physical science to an eternal God who is Spirit.
So science doesn’t have anything to say about the Trinity.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
So, I return the question to you.
Do you really care about the truth?Yes I care about the truth very much.
All the research I have done points to the heliocentric model.
Further, all the so-called flat earth proofs have been debunked.
Nothing is outstanding that I know of.
Flat Earth lost this debate. There is no proof, neither…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
What do you do if you don’t understand a Bible verse?
Throw the whole Bible away? Of course not.What’s your no1 flat earth bible verse.
We will look at it together.Lightenup replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 5 months ago
Gene, this topic is about what “monogenes” means. Some say that it means “unique” and the video shows that it means “only begotten.” It is not about calling anyone else “father.” Please post elsewhere in an appropriate topic. Thanks! LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 5 months ago
. In English, the word prototype is taken from the Greek,
Would you mind showing your source for that statement?
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Danny, you didn’t respond to my last post to you. In fact you have done that several times in other topics as far as I recall. If you consider what I wrote, it could help you understand things a bit better.
carmel replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 5 months ago
Hi Proclaimer,
You: Not sure which is best. While revelation from God is the best,
it is open to controversy.
ME: That’s why I said:
FORGET SCRIPTURE!
I also said:
IN OUR PHYSICAL TERMS PLEASE!
Maybe I wasn’t that clear!
So I’ll be more specifically clear:
I know nothing regarding colours, and a person, tells me that if I mix blue paint…[Read more]
Danny Dabbs replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
I don’t have an answer to that issue.
So what? That doesn’t mean that the flat Earth model is wrong.
There are answers for everything.
I just don’t have it on this one.
What do you do if you don’t understand a Bible verse?
Throw the whole Bible away? Of course not.
Anyway, it has already been proven that our Earth is not a globe.
So, I return…[Read more]GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 5 months ago
LU…….Jesus said (not me)…….“call no man on earth your Father, for “ONE” is “your” Father who is in heave`n”. So LU, if Jesus told me that i have only “ONE” father, who is in heaven, what would make him any different then me, Seening we both have the same father?
Again the true question here is , do you people, “truly” believ…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 5 months ago
Hi to all
Here is the Daily Devotional
YOUR FAMILY TREE
The family tree of Confucius has been maintained for more than 2,500 years and is listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the largest existing family tree. Genealogy is one of the fastest-growing hobbies in North America. More and more people are fascinated in tracing their…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 5 months ago
Even a child knows that the child is the same type as their father,
I’m not disagreeing with that. If he was born from God he should by all accounts have his nature. That would make him divine also.
Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant,…[Read more]
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