haha this topic has gone a bit off topic! All good.

Have a great 2023!

Peace, LU

Same to you LU 🙂

Hi Carmel,

I believe that Jesus was born of Mary even though He pre-existed as one born of God before creation. I believe that Jesus was born in the flesh and given to us.

Me: Jesus, is both Son of God and Son of man!

As Son of God, Jesus was born of Mary, but

AS A SPIRITUAL LUMINOUS CHILD! 

Luke 1:And the angel answering, said to her:

The…[Read more]

Hi LU

hypothesize that the Father is interdependent with the Son in being the one true God, not independent from the Son in being the one true God.

Do you agree Berean? 

Me

The Father had needed, needs the Son for all things and so yes, HE IS (as the one true God) INTERDEPENDENT ON THE SON ,BECAUSE HE IS A JUST AND GOOD GOD.

Hi Berean,

Thank you for your answer. Please answer this now that you have had more time to think about it:

I hypothesize that the Father is interdependent with the Son in being the one true God, not independent from the Son in being the one true God.

Do you agree Berean?

You’re welcome Miia.

Have a great 2023!

Peace, LU

Hi Carmel,

I believe that Jesus was born of Mary even though He pre-existed as one born of God before creation. I believe that Jesus was born in the flesh and given to us.

Thank you Lightenup, Gene and all… Peace, love and blessings.

Paul said   (not me) …….. “that you may be blameless and harmless, the Sons of GOD, without rebuck, in the mudest of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom “YOU” SHINE AS “LIGHTS” IN THE WORLD; 

And again James says (not me)…… “every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes from the FATHER OF “LIGHTS”,  with whom is no…[Read more]

Hi Lu,

You: carmel,

You said:

WHY, may I ask:

unto to us, a Son IS GIVEN?

WHY NOT, UNTO US A SON IS BORN?

 
It’s both.
Me, Lu I don’t know what you meant by BOTH.

Read what I said:

But again, the fact that it says “A CHILD….” is not just a reference to Jesus.

IT IS ALSO A REFERENCE TO HIS MOTHER MARY!

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LU……I realize what you and Carmel say,  but i would rather believe what our actual scriptures say, and this is what they say (not me)……Gen 1:27…..”so God created “MAN”  in his “OWN” IMAGE , in the “IMAGE” of God  created “he” him; male and female created he them”.

Ibelieve there are seven Spirits of God,  with those seven Spirits of his…[Read more]

Hi to all

Here is the Daily Devotional

FAR FROM HOME 

Most of us are familiar with the enslavement of Africans in the United States, but the enslavement of Native Americans is a little known part of history. For many years the Southern colonies carried out slave trade among Native American tribes, shipping tens of thousands of people far from…[Read more]

Hi LU

You: Amen to that, the Son also has the title of Yahweh our Righteousness and the God who will inherit all nations. Do you agree? 

Me:

Yes YAHWEH OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS AND THE GOD WHO INHERIT ALL NATIONS….under the authority of the Father.

1 Corinthians 15:22-28
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all shall live again.
But each in his…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: LU……So Jesus was lying when he said (not me)…..“this is eternal life , that they might know “YOU”, the “ONLY” true GOD…….,

ACCORDING TO YOU,  he meant to say,  “US” the onLy true “GOD’S”.  

Me: Gene the above is only your corrupted carnal-minded understanding.

GOD HAS THE POWER TO BYLOCATE AND MULTIPLY HIMSELF AS MUCH AS HE P…[Read more]

Gene,

God is united to His Son, they do the God stuff together. The Father sees Him and His Son as one God in the fullest sense who is both God of gods and Lord of lords named Yahweh. Two different persons acting as one, interdependently to do the God stuff. They are God alone, no one besides them.

Proclaimer,

You said:

But I would like to add that the whole reason for creation is because of the Son. God created all things through him and for him. Further, God’s redemptive plan from the foundation of the world is also through him as you rightly point out.

We are offered to be born from above and become Sons. Our existence is tied up in T…

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Proclaimer,

You said:

I can’t provide a source for prototype as I wrongly assumed it was rooted in the word for firstborn despite both having the same root ‘proto’.

That said, I stll believe that he is the prototype. He is the ‘first type’, that is, the first Son. Those born from above will be like him. The same type of being. The original…

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Berean,

Yes, we are making progress 🙂

You said:

The Son has accepted that everything be given into his hands for the creation of the universe, for the plan of redemption and for judgment.
THE SON IS WORTHY OF ALL THESE TITLES MENTIONED IN ISAIAH
For a child is born to us, a son is given to us, and dominion will rest on his shoulder, and he will…

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Gene,

Jesus said that we are to know two persons to have eternal life, one is the Father and the other is the Son. Please don’t pretend that Jesus isn’t the elohim who is our one Lord.

carmel,

You said:

WHY, may I ask:

unto to us, a Son IS GIVEN?

WHY NOT, UNTO US A SON IS BORN?

It’s both.