carmel replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 4 months ago
Hi Lu,
You: carmel,
You said:
WHY, may I ask:
unto to us, a Son IS GIVEN?
WHY NOT, UNTO US A SON IS BORN?
It’s both.
Me, Lu I don’t know what you meant by BOTH.Read what I said:
But again, the fact that it says “A CHILD….” is not just a reference to Jesus.
IT IS ALSO A REFERENCE TO HIS MOTHER MARY!
SHE WAS BORN FIRST. ‘AND THROUGH HER[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 4 months ago
LU……I realize what you and Carmel say, but i would rather believe what our actual scriptures say, and this is what they say (not me)……Gen 1:27…..”so God created “MAN” in his “OWN” IMAGE , in the “IMAGE” of God created “he” him; male and female created he them”.
Ibelieve there are seven Spirits of God, with those seven Spirits of his…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 4 months ago
Hi to all
Here is the Daily Devotional
FAR FROM HOME
Most of us are familiar with the enslavement of Africans in the United States, but the enslavement of Native Americans is a little known part of history. For many years the Southern colonies carried out slave trade among Native American tribes, shipping tens of thousands of people far from…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Hi LU
You: Amen to that, the Son also has the title of Yahweh our Righteousness and the God who will inherit all nations. Do you agree?
Me:
Yes YAHWEH OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS AND THE GOD WHO INHERIT ALL NATIONS….under the authority of the Father.
1 Corinthians 15:22-28
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all shall live again.
But each in his…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene,
You: LU……So Jesus was lying when he said (not me)…..“this is eternal life , that they might know “YOU”, the “ONLY” true GOD…….,
ACCORDING TO YOU, he meant to say, “US” the onLy true “GOD’S”.
Me: Gene the above is only your corrupted carnal-minded understanding.
GOD HAS THE POWER TO BYLOCATE AND MULTIPLY HIMSELF AS MUCH AS HE P…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Only begotten/monogenes in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 years, 4 months ago
Gene,
God is united to His Son, they do the God stuff together. The Father sees Him and His Son as one God in the fullest sense who is both God of gods and Lord of lords named Yahweh. Two different persons acting as one, interdependently to do the God stuff. They are God alone, no one besides them.
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Proclaimer,
You said:
But I would like to add that the whole reason for creation is because of the Son. God created all things through him and for him. Further, God’s redemptive plan from the foundation of the world is also through him as you rightly point out.
We are offered to be born from above and become Sons. Our existence is tied up in T…
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Proclaimer,
You said:
I can’t provide a source for prototype as I wrongly assumed it was rooted in the word for firstborn despite both having the same root ‘proto’.
That said, I stll believe that he is the prototype. He is the ‘first type’, that is, the first Son. Those born from above will be like him. The same type of being. The original…
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Berean,
Yes, we are making progress 🙂
You said:
The Son has accepted that everything be given into his hands for the creation of the universe, for the plan of redemption and for judgment.
THE SON IS WORTHY OF ALL THESE TITLES MENTIONED IN ISAIAH
For a child is born to us, a son is given to us, and dominion will rest on his shoulder, and he will…Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Gene,
Jesus said that we are to know two persons to have eternal life, one is the Father and the other is the Son. Please don’t pretend that Jesus isn’t the elohim who is our one Lord.
Lightenup replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 4 months ago
carmel,
You said:
WHY, may I ask:
unto to us, a Son IS GIVEN?
WHY NOT, UNTO US A SON IS BORN?
It’s both.
Lightenup replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 4 months ago
Gene,
You said:
God made “all” mankind in his “image”…
Mankind is made in their image.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:…
Jesus is the image of the invisible God, singular…you are not.
Mankind is made in their image, plural.
carmel replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene,
You: God made “all” mankind in his “image”,
Now, answer Please:
Gene, the Father has no image He is an invisible spirit!
NOW, WHO IS THE ONLY IMAGE OF GOD?
JESUS CHRIST
SO “ALL” MANKIND IS MADE IN THE IMAGE OF JESUS CHRIST BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.
You: Jesus said (not me)…..“call “no man” your Father on earth ,one is your FATHER …[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 4 months ago
Hi to all
Here is the Daily Devotional
A SMASHING ENTRANCE
The first recorded roller skates, called skaites, were built in 1760 by a Belgian musical instrument maker named John-Joseph Merlin. Each skate had only two wheels, which were aligned one in front of the other along the center of the shoe. The crude design was based on the ice skates of…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 4 months ago
CARMEL……God made “all” mankind in his “image”, please explaine how that “only” applies to The “Man” Jesus and not the rest of his human brothers and sisters?
Jesus existence comes from man kind , just the exact same as our existence does , through the power of God the exact same as our existence does. But Satan and his ministers want…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 4 months ago
Gene,
You: Berean…….Jesus was in the “likeness”, ie, “image” of God,
Read Gene, please:
Hebrews1:1Who being the brightness of his glory
WHAT GLORY Gene, THE FATHER’S GLORY.
, and the express image of his person,
WHAT EXPRESS IMAGE, Gene, THE FATHER’S IMAGE.
and upholding all things by the word of his power…
WHAT POUR Gene, THE F…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 4 months ago
Gene
Sorry, that’s not what Paul says to the Phillipians.
I reject your misinterpretation of WHO WAS AND IS JESUS CHRIST.carmel replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene,
You: Jesus the man never preceded his birth on the earth in any form of existence,
Me: Just read the scripture hereunder and explain please:
Jude 1: 4For certain men are secretly entered in, (who were written of long ago unto this judgment,) ungodly men, turning the grace of our Lord God into riotousness, and denying the ONLY SOVEREIGN…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
LU……So Jesus was lying when he said (not me)…..“this is eternal life , that they might know “YOU”, the “ONLY” true GOD……., ACCORDING TO YOU, he meant to say, “US” the onLy true “GOD’S”. Should we all erase our scriptures and change them it to fit your interputation? Perhaps you have found another interputation somewhere , inlig…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Happy Christmas in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 4 months ago
Carmel. He came in the flesh. His name was Jesus.
But again, the fact that it says “A CHILD….” is not just a reference to Jesus.
IT IS ALSO A REFERENCE TO HIS MOTHER MARY!
SHE WAS BORN FIRST. ‘AND THROUGH HER
HE WAS NOT REALLY BORN BUT GIVEN TO US, SINCE HE PRE-EXISTED AND EVEN CREATED HIS OWN MOTHER!
SCRIPTURE IS CLEAR:
ALL IN HIM, ALL BY…[Read more]
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