carmel replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Hi Lu,
You: Psalms 2 tells us that it is after the Son returns to the Father at the ascension when He inherits the nations and makes it clear that the Son did not already have them until then.
Me: What you posted is a clear reference to Jesus, the SON OF MAN, “THE WORD” made flesh, Jesus’ human nature, who died on the cross.
Now immediately…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Hi Lu,
<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>You: Psalms 2 tells us that it is after the Son returns to the Father at the ascension when He inherits the nations and makes it clear that the Son did not already have them until then.</span>
Me: What you posted is a clear reference to Jesus, the SON OF MAN, “THE WORD” made flesh, Jesus’ human nature, who…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Hi LU
You
VOICE
Biblical Greek has three voices, active, middle, and passive:The Active Voice: This occurs when the action of the verb is being performed by the subject.
The Middle Voice: When the subject of the verb does action unto itself, or for its own benefit, the middle voice is used.
The Passive Voice: The passive represents the ac…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
To all…….Jesus said (not me)…..“the Son of man, (Jesus), can do “NOTHING” of himself” the Father who is “IN” him, “HE” DOES THE WORKS”. and again, Jesus said (not me).
“Our” , Father who art in heaven , “HOLY” be “THY” name, “THY” kingdom come, “THY” WILL be done, in earth as it is in heaven, give us this day our daily bread, and for…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 5 months ago
Hi to all
Here is the Daily Devotional
DOES THE BIBLE TEACH MEN CAN FORGIVE SINS?
Before diving into this specific text, let’s first answer this Can a human being take away sin? The Bible makes many statements that clearly show that only Christ can cleanse us from all unrighteousness. We must go to Jesus to receive forgiveness. “Let us t…[Read more]Berean replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
LU
Psalm 24:3
Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place?
These are HEAVENLY AND NON-EARTHLY realities TO COME….WHO SHALL ADCEND….👉 FUTUR TIME
the hill of the LORD
his holy place ARE IN HEAVEN WHERE GOD THE FATHER AND JESUS ARE.
Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.<…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Hi Berean,
You said:
In the case of Jesus “Resurrection” means physically passing from death to life.
And “ascension” to “rise” from earth to HEAVEN.Can you show me a verse that Jesus was resurrected before He met Mary in the garden where the verse actually has the Greek word for “resurrected” and not just “raised up?”
I believe that the ra…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Carmel,
Psalms 2 tells us that it is after the Son returns to the Father at the ascension when He inherits the nations and makes it clear that the Son did not already have them until then.
Psalms 2:7
“I will declare the decree:
The Lord has said to Me,
‘You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.
8Ask of Me, and I will give You
The nations f…carmel replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Hi Lu,
You: Jesus laid down His life for His sheep starting with the agreement to empty Himself and become a bondservant.
Me: Agree!
He took it up again when He ascended back to His Father and received all authority in heaven and on earth.
Not precise, I’m afraid!
Jesus received all authority on earth BEFORE GOING TO THE FATHER. HE LEFT…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
LU
In the case of Jesus “Resurrection” means physically passing from death to life.
And “ascension” to “rise” from earth to HEAVEN.And for us: to pass from spiritual death to spiritual life in order to be able to rise (ascension) to heaven towards the Father with Jesus.
👇
Psalm 24:3
Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Berean,
You forgot this
RESURRECTION
Strong’s #386 anastasis: a standing up, i.e. a resurrection, a raising up, rising.
Jesus raised up His “temple” on the third day by ascending to the Father.
Both words you listed can mean rise/raise up.
God raised Jesus through the power of the Holy Spirit, from the dead and showed Him to Mary. Then Jesus…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Hi LU
There is a word for every divine action
John 2:19 (RESURRECTION)
Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
👇
RAISE UP
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eg-i’-roprobably akin to the base of agora – agora 58 (through the idea of collecting one’s faculties); to waken (transitively or int…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Gene,
I choose to make Jesus Lord of my life or not, no one can force me. My God is much bigger than a god that forces his will on others.
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 5 months ago
Hi to all
Here is the Daily Devotional
ACCORDING TO ZECHARIAH, AREN’T GOD’S PEOPLE TO KEEP THE FEAST OF TABERNACLES FOREVER?
First, we should ask if “all the nations which came against Jerusalem” did come “up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.” The answer is obviously ‘no.’ A…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
LU…….Go back and read exactly what you wrote, and you are infering, you are saying that you yourself choose your own salvation, you lay down your own life yourself, question? , where is God at in you self salvation view, BY YOUR OWN WILL, seneiro. Is that not the same as saying, your saving your own life by your own “Will” ?,
Je…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Hi LU
LU :Jesus laid down His life for His sheep starting with the agreement to empty Himself and become a bondservant.
Me:Yes, this is the beginning of the giving of his Life and this is what Paul says in Philippians 2:6-8 and in 2Cor.8:9
And it culminated in the cross of Golgotha.More latter
Proclaimer wrote a new post 3 years, 5 months ago
God Developes Ultra-real Metaverse
God Develops Ultra-Realistic Metaverse Where People Can Talk, Learn, And Work With Other People, Calling It ‘Universe’. – BabylonBee.comLightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Berean,
Jesus laid down His life for His sheep starting with the agreement to empty Himself and become a bondservant. He took it up again when He ascended back to His Father and received all authority in heaven and on earth. His ascension to the Father on day three after He was talking to Mary is the part of the resurrection that Jesus did by His…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Berean,
LU: Can you show me a verse that is about Jesus’s resurrection that the grammar shows Jesus doing the action in an active voice as opposed to a passive voice?
Berean:
… in an active voice …!!!???
Sorry, that is confusing if you do not know Greek grammar. You see, the verbs in Greek have specific endings that tell many things about the v…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Gene,
If our will was not greater than God’s will, we wouldn’t be asked to surrender our will. God can make us do things against our will if He needs to but that would be merciful, not obligatory. God wants us to lay down our life and take up our cross, He doesn’t force us to however. We have a choice. When we lay down our life and take up our…[Read more]
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