Berean replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Hi LU
Do you agree that there are two persons who existed before creation that are interdependent to each other, one who remained God in nature and another who began in the same nature as the other but then also took on human nature? In other words, One of the two persons before creation remained purely God natured and the other of the two…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 4 months ago
Here is the Daily Devotional
WHAT DOES IT MEAN THAT SOME SINS LEAD TO DEATH AND OTHERS DON’T?
All sin leads to death (Romans 6:23). And since “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23), we are all doomed to eternal death. Yet Jesus provided a way out by offering His perfect life in exchange for our sinful lives.Part of re…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Reality should bother you danny.

Further, I am still waiting for your no1 flat earth verse in the bible. I would love to read it.
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Proclaimer:
You said:
If you agree that the first Adam was a prototype, then why not the final Adam?
The second Adam was a life giving spirit. Is there another person that is a life giving spirit modeled after the second Adam? I don’t know of any.
Jesus is the firstborn from the dead and there are many to follow that act of being begotten from…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Hi Berean,
You said:
The Father had needed, needs the Son for all things and so yes, HE IS (as the one true God) INTERDEPENDENT ON THE SON ,BECAUSE HE IS A JUST AND GOOD GOD.
Do you agree that there are two persons who existed before creation that are interdependent to each other, one who remained God in nature and another who began in the same…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Proclaimer,
You quoted this:
Proclaimer: But I would like to add that the whole reason for creation is because of the Son. God created all things through him and for him. Further, God’s redemptive plan from the foundation of the world is also through him as you rightly point out. We are offered to be born from above and become Sons. Our e…
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Gene (posted a second time),
Who is speaking in this passage:
7I will proclaim the decree
spoken to Me by the LORD:
“You are My Son;
today I have become Your Father.
Was that spoken in the New Testament or the Old Testament?
Please answer both of those questions Gene.
Blessings, LU
carmel replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene,
You: Carmel…….You are one screwed up cookie, brother, are you a Johovah wittness, they also believe that Jesus was a preexisting angel like you?
Me: Read and tell me what does the scripture hereunder say?
Galatians 4:14 And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected;
but received me as an angel of God, even…[Read more]GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Carmel…….You are one screwed up cookie, brother, are you a Johovah wittness, they also believe that Jesus was a preexisting angel like you?
But what does tge scripture say about the Angels, lets read it, ok, HEB 2:5…..”for unto the “ANGELS”, has he “not put in subjection”, the world to come , where of we speak”
Well seening you be…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 4 months ago
Hi to all
Here is the Daily Devotional
CROCODILE EYES
Crocodiles are among the largest and longest-living reptiles on Earth. Just like a tree, they have growth rings in their scales. By counting these rings, scientists can tell the age of a crocodile and know that some males can live up to 70 and even 100 years. Female crocodiles rarely grow…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene,
You: Proclaimer…….Adam and Eve were both begotten from God, so how does you saying Jesus was, make him any different .
Genesis 2:6 But a spring rose out the earth, watering all the surface of the earth. 7
And the Lord God formed man of the slime of the earth:
and breathed into his face the breath of life, and man became a living…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene,
You: Could it be that Jesus the man was raised because he became a Christo’s,
Me: Now according to you, WHEN EXACTLY DID JESUS BECAME
A CHRISTOS/ ANOINTED?
KEEP IN MIND THAT JESUS THE MAN DIED ON THE CROSS! NO?
HOW THEN HE BECAME ANOINTED?
WHAT ACTUALLY DID OCCUR TO JESUS ON HIS DEATH IN ORDER FOR HIM TO BECOME A CH…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene,
As I said regarding
WHO IS THE ANGEL OF THE LORD
Hereunder is an article for you to read from:
versebyverseministry
Scripture clearly shows the Angel of the Lord is the part of the Godhead, and in particular the pre-incarnate Christ.
The term “the Angel of the Lord” first appears in Genesis 16:
“7 Now the angel of…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Hi Gene,
You: Carmel……..The anointing Spirit was in Moses , Calab ,Joushua, and the seventy Elders, they all had the Spirit of God “in” them,
Me: THE ABOVE Gene, IS OUT OF CONTEXT!
Read again please:
Gude 1:5 I WILL THEREFORE ADMONISH YOU, THOUGH YE ONCE KNEW ALL THINGS,
that Jesus, having SAVED the people out of the land of Egypt,
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Carmel……..The anointing Spirit was in Moses , Calab ,Joushua, and the seventy Elders, they all had the Spirit of God “in” them, that encludes “the man”, Jesus Christ, and all true “SON’S OF GOD, alive “now” also have that same “anointing Spirit of the Father in them also. And because the seed (spirit of God) abides “in” use we are Son…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 5 months ago
Hi to all
Here is the Daily Devotional
THE LAST LIVING DRAGON
Flying dragons are prominent in many legends and stories from around the world. Often there is a kernel of truth in legends, and this appears to be the case with flying dragons. Paleontologists have found amazing fossil evidence all over the globe of giant flying reptiles called…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Hi Gene,
You: Carmel…….Your scripture you quote is not referencing that it was Jesus who brought them out of Egypt, it is saying it was Joshua , the word for Joshua , in Hebrew is the exact same word for Jesus , in the GREEK LANGUAGE. but we all know it was the man Joshua who brough them out of Egypt.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Hey Danny, thanks for clarifying that you are serious about the world being pizza shaped. Obviously no one can help you if uou cannot understand all yhe evidence that tell us that all planets are spheres.
Since science is beyond your grasp, let’s focus on scripture. Give me one verse in the Bible that states that the earth is flat.
Thank you.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Carmel…….Your scripture you quote is not referencing that it was Jesus who brought them out of Egypt, it is saying it was Joshua , the word for Joshua , in Hebrew is the exact same word for Jesus , in the GREEK LANGUAGE. but we all know it was the man Joshua who brough them out of Egypt. A good bible with a margin in the middle will tell…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 3 years, 5 months ago
Proclaimer…….Adam and Eve were both begotten from God, so how does you saying Jesus was, make him any different . Jesus himself said over 80 times that he was a SON OF MAN, ie (mankind) , he said he was “the root and “Offspring” of David. tell us exactly what that means to you. THE APOSTAL Paul say he was from the loins of King David,…[Read more]
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