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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 1 month ago

    @desiretruth

    Isaiah 53
    Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
    But👉 he was wounded for our transgressions👈,

    👉he was bruised for our iniquities👈: 

    👉the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.  

    I think you agree that Isa…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 1 month ago

    Gene

    In the Bible in Revelation 19:13 WE read:
    And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood:👉 and his name is called The Word of God.👈
     

    Who IS called “THE WORD OF GOD”

    JESUS CHRIST, THE SON OF GOD.

     

    you still haven’t answered my other question:
    FATHER IN HEAVEN
    THE CHRIST WHO COMES FROM THE HEAVEN
    WHAT IS THE HEAVEN FOR YOU…[Read more]

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    Berean you said………..>You quote John 3:34

    For him whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

    This verse goes more like this:
    Since Jesus speaks “the words of God like no other on earth, THAT IS JUST WHY JOHN CALLS IT” THE WORD OF GOD (Rev.19:13)

    Berean , I am not arguing the point that Jesu…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 1 month ago

    @ desire Truth

    You

    We are taught this verse is a prophesy concerning the Messiah and some will use it to “prove” Jesus is God (“Mighty God”); however, is this verse ever quoted in its entirety by anyone in the new testament? Not once. So the first century writers didn’t believe this was a prophecy pointing to the Messiah. Yet we are taught to…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

    DOESN’T EZEKIEL 16 ENCOURAGE US TO WEAR JEWELRY?

     

    The context of this passage is not about whether we should or should not wear jewelry. It is a figurative picture of God redeeming His people from slavery. The people of God are compared to a bride given many gifts. It calls the attention of Israel back t…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 1 month ago

    @ desire Truth

    As I told you, I only skimmed the article.
    The Adventist church I belong to became Trinitarian during the 19th century, but the pioneers were not, and it is with their views that I am most in agreement.

    That said, in relation to your presentation, I do not subscribe to the Septuagint. For me this Bible is not reliable.
    As you know…[Read more]

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    @ Berean,

    The Septuagint passage was all you gleaned from what I wrote?!!??!?!?? I did go look at your link and to be honest, I got about half way thru and gave up as it’s from a false doctrinal, trinitarian perspective. I thought you didn’t believe in the trinity; the faith you follow does.

    Either you didn’t read all I wrote or you are ignoring…[Read more]

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    Think man think 2.0
    Flat Earthers cannot understand scale. Imagine an Ant in you Car as you are travelling at 70mph, scale wise , they are travelling at about 24,000 mph, they can walk around fall into you Coffee with no physical effects on that speed !!!…. Think

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    Think man think
    You only see the moon as a light because when it is dark, you don’t see it. This pice shows the moon because it is the moon.

    @dannyd

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 1 month ago

    @desiretruth

    gleaned from:

    https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/1958/07/the-name-of-jesus

    You can read everything else.
    I didn’t just skim it.

    “The LXX reads “His name is called the Messenger of great counsel.”—The Sep­tuagint Version of the Old Testament With an English Translation (S. Bagster SC Sons, London, 1844). This text was re…[Read more]

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    Isa 9:6 was quoted during one of our conversations (page 1204, #943359), not entirely sure what the point of the comment is or really the direction they were going; but they did say to “concentrate” on Isa 9:6, so I did. The following is the verse in a few translations:

    6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government sha…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 1 month ago

    @ Jodi

    Let’s think about what our Heavenly Father spoke through Jesus in John 6:63 It is the Spirit that quickeneth (make alive); the flesh profiteth nothing: THE WORDS that I speak unto you, THEY ARE SPIRIT, and they are life.

    1 John 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have l…[Read more]

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    Jodi replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 1 month ago

    Berean,

    Could you answer some questions?

    When the Spirit came to abode in Jesus where we are told that he left the river Jordan having been filled with the Spirit, is that NOT God’s word spoken by the prophet Isaiah having been made true in the flesh?

    Did the people behold the glory of Jesus as he spoke the TRUTH through having been filled with…[Read more]

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    Jodi replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 1 month ago

    Hi Berean,

    To add to what Gene has said,

    Let’s think about what our Heavenly Father spoke through Jesus in John 6:63 It is the Spirit that quickeneth (make alive); the flesh profiteth nothing: THE WORDS that I speak unto you, THEY ARE SPIRIT, and they are life.

    1 John 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 1 month ago

    Gene

    This is not the question that I asked you first and that I expected an answer from you. But since you come back to who is “THE WORD”, I answer you on it.

    You quote John 3:34

    For him whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

    This verse goes more like this:
    Since Jesus speaks “the…[Read more]

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    Berean ……LET’S let Jesus, answer your question with his own words OK? ,…….“the words I am telling you are “NOT”  “MY”, “WORDS”, but the words of him that set me”.

    Common sense should tell you ,If Jesus said those words were not “HIS WORDS”,  but the words of someone else, then how could he be “THE WORD”?

    This might also help you understand,…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

    PARADISE LOST AND FOUND

     

    We’ve all heard the true account of the Mutiny on the Bounty, but one aspect of the story that deserves retelling is the transformation wrought by one incredible book. Shortly after the famous mutiny in 1789, nine mutineers with six Tahitian men and twelve women went ashore on P…[Read more]

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    Gene, this website is about debunking lies pertaining to God, the bible, etc. Flat Earth is a lie that blinds some believers who even think the bible supports their view. The bad thing about this is it lays a stumbling block for some to entering the kingdom of God. If they are told the Bible teaches a flat earth, they will run a mile from…[Read more]

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    The reason a flat-earthers believe the earth is flat is the same reason a 4 year old believes in Santa Claus, they both think alike. The reason is the brain of both haven’t developed the mental faculties necessary to differentiate between fact and fiction, and while the 4 year old will eventually mature mentally and…[Read more]

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