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    @Desire Truth

    You

    Also, who is the “servant” spoken of starting in chapter 41? If you are unsure, please reread post #944007.

     

    Me

    Undoubtedly it is Jacob that is in question… in post #944007. BUT JACOB IS NOT THE ONLY ONE TO BE CALLED MY SERVANT….

    THERE IS ONE WHO IS ABOVE ALL SERVANTS, AND THIS WE SEE HIM MENTIONED IN ISAIAH 49

    i…[Read more]

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    @Berean

    You don’t read the end of the book, you start at the beginning, and to understand this “ending” one must understand the “beginning.” All must be put into context. Who is speaking where in this “song”? Once we have this established we will move on.

    Also, who is the “servant” spoken of starting in chapter 41? If you are unsure, please…[Read more]

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    @ desire Truth

    He shall see of the labor of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many;👉 for he shall bear their iniquities.👈.

    Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;

    👉because he hath poured out his soul unto death:👈 and he was…[Read more]

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    @Gene

    @Berean

    You aren’t listening to my words; nowhere have I implied Israel died for anyone’s sins. Go back to some previous posts and re-read. You and Berean are trying to merge two separate ideas – what I am reading in this passage and what you believe the passages states.

    You still haven’t told me who you believe is speaking in the follo…[Read more]

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    In 2018, Mariusz Koper (of Poland) & crew sailed a yacht (the “Katharsis 2”) to circumnavigate around Antarctica in 72 days (from January into March) –requiring a distance of about 21,600 nautical miles, as they sailed in an EASTERLY direction, always tending to the RIGHT to get around Antarctica. ——- HOWEVER, IF there were an “ice wall”…

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    Desire Truth…….I agree with Berean,  on this one,  you do need to show us in what “WAY”  has Israel died or suffered for “OUR” INIQUITIES and SINS, then, seeing you insist the nation of Israel was the one being addressed in chapter 53, right?   You haven’t produced a single scripture that supports Israel “bearing anyone’s sins and iniquities,…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

    DIDN’T JESUS ASSURE THE THIEF ON THE CROSS THAT HE WOULD BE WITH HIM IN PARADISE THAT VERY DAY?

    Some believe from this verse that people go to their reward immediately after death, a teaching that goes contrary to many other Bible texts. There are two main problems with this assumption. First, even t…[Read more]

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    @ desire Truth

    He shall see of the labor of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many;👉 for he shall bear their iniquities.👈.

    Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;

    👉because he hath poured out his soul unto death:👈 and he was numbered…[Read more]

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    @Danny

    So what you are really saying is you can’t explain those chapters in your own words and rely on others to tell you what to believe. Now it makes sense!

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    @desiretruth

    GotQuestions is a very good website.
    All you can do is to slander like your father the devil.
    Anyway, you didn’t refute those Bible verses at all.
    Nothing you said makes any sense.
    It’s time to shake the dust off my feet and move on.

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    @Gene

    Now we resort to name calling…

    If all you are going to do is reject without verifying, this becomes a waste of time and time for me is all too precious. If you are hung up on the plurality of the words, you really need to start reading in chapter 41 and you will discover how God speaks of HIS servant in the singular. I’m not “fo…[Read more]

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    Desire Truth   Sorry I meant to a a “Plural” expression on Israel as a single nation in Issa 52.

    sorry for the mistake……./.Gene

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    Derailed Truth……Isaiah 53,  does not have a single plural noun mentioned in it concerning the suffering servant,  not one,  all expressions there are in the ‘Singular ”    Therefore it could not be Israel as a nation, or it would all be expressed in a “plural ” sense> your switching a singular expression of an individual “SOUL”  TO the PLURAL SOUL…[Read more]

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    @Danny

    You copy/pasted someone else’s comments from a website that has been proven to push falsehoods. GotQuestions is horrible and the man running it is a charlatan.

    So all you know is Ps 16, Ps 22, and Isa 53 as proof of Jesus dying for the sins of mankind; I have already explained each of these chapters and have shown how they could not be a…[Read more]

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    @Gene

    Obviously my understanding isn’t correct; so please fix it.

    I have told you who is speaking where, now it’s your turn. Who is speaking in these places:

    Isa 52:13-15 –

    Isa 53:1-9 –

    Isa 53:10-12 –

    As you answer who’s speaking above, make sure you are including with your understanding what’s happening in 52:1-12?

    Analyzing what you sai…[Read more]

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    Vanishing point is the furtherst you can see. That is where the sun goes right? Hang on, what about these mountains? Lol.

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    Hi Desiretruth,

    You: @Carmel

    I am super confused by what you’re actually looking for.

    I don’t blame you. Read hereunder:

    Matthew 13:12For he that hath, to him shall be given, and he shall abound:

    BUT HE THAT HATH NOT,

    FROM HIM SHALL BE TAKEN AWAY THAT ALSO WHICH HE HATH,

    You: I have already explained what I believe is happening in these ver…[Read more]

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    @ Danny Dabbs

    Amen!

    Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.(Amos3:7)

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