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Is Hell eternal?

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Part 01 – Is Hell eternal?
Part 02 – Scriptures used to support an eternal Hell
Part 03 – New Testament scriptures that dispel an eternal Hell
Part 04 – Old Testament scriptures that dispel an eternal Hell
Part 05 – Other resources about Hell

This page will let scripture answer the most common questions on this topic. Following that, we will look at scriptures that are used to support the idea of an eternal Hell to get a balanced view. The last two pages will take a more substantial look at scriptures that talk about the wicked and their fate.

Will the wicked perish?

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

2 Peter 2:12
But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.

Luke 13:3
I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.

In order to understand the word ‘perish’, how is this word used in other biblical topics?

Hebrews 1:10-12
10 He also says, “In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment.
12 You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment they will be changed. But you remain the same, and your years will never end.

Colossians 2:21-22 21
21 Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”?
22 These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings.

Will the wicked be destroyed?

Matthew 7:13
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

Philippians 3:19
Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is on earthly things.

2 Thessalonians 1:8-9
8 He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 
9 They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his power

How is the word ‘destruction’ used in other biblical topics?

1 Corinthians 5:5
To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

2 Peter 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

How will the wicked be destroyed?

2 Peter 3:7
By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

Luke 17:28-30
28 “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. 29 But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.
30 “It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed.

The wicked are cast into hell, but isn’t Hell eternal?

Revelation 20:14
Then death and Hell were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

Revelation 21:8
“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.“

So there will be no eternal suffering in hell?

Romans 6:23
“For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”

Revelation 21:4
He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

So the wicked will cease to exist?

Psalms 104:35
“Let the sinners be consumed out of the earth, and let the wicked be no more. Bless thou the LORD, O my soul. Praise ye the LORD.”

Psalms 37:10
“For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.”

Adam came to life when he became a living soul, but can a man lose his soul?

Mark 8:36
What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul?

1 Peter 1:9
for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls.

But isn’t the human soul immortal?

Matthew 10:28
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in Hell.

Genesis 3:21-24
22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”23 So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken.24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

Are you sure that the wicked will be completely consumed or burned up though?

Psalms 37:20
“But the wicked will perish: Though the Lord’s enemies are like the flowers of the field, they will be consumed, they will go up in smoke.”

Malachi 4:1
“For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.”

Does God want to destroy the wicked?

Ezekiel 33:11
Say to them, ‘As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn from your evil ways!

2 Peter 3:9
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is long-suffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”

Will sin ever happen again once all the wicked are destroyed?

1 John 3:9
No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.

2 Peter 1:4
Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

Luke 20:35-36
But those who are considered worthy to share in the age to come and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage. In fact, they can no longer die, because they are like the angels. And since they are sons of the resurrection, they are sons of God.

We know that sin causes death and we will no longer die because sin has been dealt with.

1 Corinthians 15:54-55
54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come to pass: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.” 55 “Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?”

When will the wicked be completely destroyed?

Matthew 13:40
“As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world/age.“

2 Peter 3:10.
“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”

Okay so wicked men will be destroyed along with the old creation, but what about Satan?

Hebrews 2:14
“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;“

Ezekiel 28:18
“Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.”

The last verse may be referring to a man instead of Satan, however we know that the Devil will be destroyed from the previous verse above.

After reading this page you may argue that I have given scripture, but not all of it. There are of course other verses that seem to teach an eternal hell or eternal suffering for the wicked. The next page will cover these scriptures to provide a balanced view. The last two pages in this study will list the most prominent verses in the Bible that teach that the wicked will be destroyed, perish, and die. There will be many more verses than quoted on this page and they are divided into Old and New Testament verses. These pages will be useful if you wish to study in more depth what scripture says about the fate of the wicked.

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  • June 11, 2013 at 9:49 pm#777238
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    Eternal judgement is one of the foundation doctrines of our faith and most of these doctrines have changed as the Church has added thousands of years worth of tradition to them. For me what is important is that the truth shines out beyond the dark ignorance of our own minds and traditions. I believe that traditional Christianity is more wrong on such matters than many would believe.

    Let’s face it, if God doesn’t burn people for eternity, then it could only be an attack on his character to say he does and no good thing comes from a lie. Even a conversion based on fear is not the same as one based on love. However, if he does burn people without end, then we just have to get use to that reality as we have no choice in the matter. But I have yet to see a conclusive scripture that teaches that man is eternal or exists forever even if they are sinners. On the contrary there are a number of witness verses that say the humans are not eternal (only the elect), and the wicked do not have eternal life/existence. So I have to go with those scriptures in order to keep a good conscience before God.

    Jeremiah 7:30-33
    30. “For the sons of Judah have done that which is evil in My sight,” declares the LORD, “they have set their detestable things in the house which is called by My name, to defile it.
    31. “They have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, which I did not command, and it did not come into My mind.
    32. “Therefore, behold, days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when it will no longer be called Topheth, or the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley of the Slaughter; for they will bury in Topheth because there is no other place.
    33. “The dead bodies of this people will be food for the birds of the sky and for the beasts of the earth; and no one will frighten them away.

    June 12, 2013 at 11:32 pm#347478
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    @ palal

    Forever means for an age. It doesn't mean eternity. It is the word 'eon'.

    If it meant eternity, then Satan would be a god for eternity because it says that He is the God of this world which is the same word 'eon'. In other words in both cases it means AGE. Likewise when you say that the wicked suffer forever, that is the same word 'eon'.

    1 Corinthians 2:6
    We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the RULERS OF THIS AGE, who are coming to NOTHING.

    Age here is the world 'eon'.

    palal, do they rule for ever?

    2 Corinthians 4:4
    The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    Age here is the world 'eon' too.

    palal, This God being spoken of here is YHWH or Satan? Whoever it is, it is not saying the God of eternity, but the God of this world/age/eon.

    The word 'forever/eon' does not mean everlasting. Each eon has a beginning and an end.

    2 Timothy 2:15
    Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.

    June 12, 2013 at 11:55 pm#347480
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    Scriptures that contradict the traditional view of Hell.

    Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”

    Psalms 21:9
    “Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger: the LORD shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them.”

    Psalms 37:10
    What will happen to the wicked?
    “For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.”

    Psalms 37:20
    “But the wicked will perish:
       Though the Lord’s enemies are like the flowers of the field,
       they will be consumed, they will go up in smoke.”

    Psalms 68:2
    “As smoke is driven away, so drive them away: as wax melteth before the fire, so let the wicked perish at the presence of God.”

    Psalms 104:35
    “Let the sinners be consumed out of the earth, and let the wicked be no more. Bless thou the LORD, O my soul. Praise ye the LORD.”

    Psalms 145:20
    “The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy.”

    Ezekiel 18:4
    “Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”

    Ezekiel 28:18
    “Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.”

    Ezekiel 28:19
    “All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.”

    Nahum 1:9-10
    “What do ye imagine against the LORD? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time. For while they be folden together as thorns, and while they are drunken as drunkards, they shall be devoured as stubble fully dry.”

    Malachi 4:1
    “For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.”

    June 13, 2013 at 1:08 am#782318
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    Part 01 – Is hell eternal?
    Part 02 – Scriptures used to support an eternal hell
    Part 03     – New Testament scriptures that dispel an eternal hell
    Part 04 – Old Testament scriptures that dispel an eternal hell

    The traditional view of Hell is that God burns sinners in a never-ending fire and for every second of eternity, they consciously suffer excruciating pain. But is this true or is it just another traditional teaching that doesn’t add up when you look at scripture? I would like to start with the following scripture to show how the traditional view is often at odds with God and scripture.

    Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”

    Now we will take a look at a list of scriptures that seem at odds with the traditional idea of the nature of Hell. Remember we have already learned in the previous page that Hell is thrown into the Lake of Fire which is the Second Death. But even ignoring that Hell will suffer the Second Death and what that entails, these scriptures below dispel the idea that the wicked are consciously eternally tormented. Read on:

    Psalms 21:9
    “Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger: the LORD shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them.”

    To be devoured means to be consumed so that what is consumed is no longer there.

    Psalms 37:10
    “For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.”

    If the wicked shall not be, then it means what it says. They will no longer exist.

    Malachi 4:1
    “For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.” 

    Once the wicked receive their reward for their sins, Yahweh will burn them up. When you burn up something, it simply means that there is nothing left to burn. When you burn a log of wood, at the point the log burns up, it is no longer a log, rather ashes.

    Ezekiel 28:18
    “Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.”

    If a person is brought to ashes, then they have been consumed by fire and no longer exist.

    Psalms 37:20
    “But the wicked will perish:
       Though the Lord’s enemies are like the flowers of the field,
       they will be consumed, they will go up in smoke.” 

    Isaiah 47:14
    Surely they are like stubble; the fire will burn them up.

    Again, the wicked shall be burned up.

    Psalms 68:2
    “As smoke is driven away, so drive them away: as wax melteth before the fire, so let the wicked perish at the presence of God.”

    Psalms 104:35
    “Let the sinners be consumed out of the earth, and let the wicked be no more. Bless thou the LORD, O my soul. Praise ye the LORD.”

    Again, the wicked will be no more because they will perish. It is clear that the wicked will not exist eternally in a place of punishment.

    Psalms 145:20
    “The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy.”

    Ezekiel 18:4
    “Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”

    So the soul that sins (and is not forgiven) it will die. That soul will be destroyed.

    Ezekiel 28:19
    “All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.”

    Nahum 1:9-10
    “What do ye imagine against the LORD? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time. For while they be folden together as thorns, and while they are drunken as drunkards, they shall be devoured as stubble fully dry.”

    In this page, you have been shown Old Testament scriptures that clearly teach that the wicked will be burned up, turn to ashes, be destroyed, perish, and will be no more.

     

    June 13, 2013 at 1:40 am#777239
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    A new page has been added to this teaching. It lists scriptures that contradict the idea that Hell is an eternal abode of wicked living souls who suffer for all eternity in fire.

    See it here:

    https://heavennet.net/writings/is-hell-eternal-part-2/

    June 13, 2013 at 4:06 am#347498
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    Ill write some more later as off to work. I know enough about greek to know I don't know much. But the one thing I have learnt is that words have different meanings depending on their combinations. It's sort of like know and no. Jst because the word eon is used elsware does not mean it means the same things. Also, the OT scriptures were originally written in hebrew so your working on the greek translations of ther OT? I think the other thing to ask is why bible translators continue to say it's eternal destruction if it does not actually say that, I gather like me, you cant read hebrew and greek or know the grammar rules of 1st century greek, if thats the case, we cant really base our debate from them. Keeping that in mind, I will stick to English translations. I'll do some checking:) :) be blessed!!!

    June 13, 2013 at 4:33 am#347499
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    No one is denying that the destruction is eternal neither you, me, or any other poster here.

    What we are denying is that humans who are eternally destroyed have eternal life or immortal souls and are thus never quite destroyed because they never fully arrive at the point of destruction. On the contrary, there are many scriptures that say that the wicked do not live forever and are no more.

    How about some scriptures palal, rather than your own understanding. I know most will give credibility to scriptures, but people's own understanding is a dime a dozen.

    I have quoted quite a lot of scriptures. It's up to people if they want to believe them or not. I realise I cannot force anyone to believe scripture, but the debate stops at scripture. Of course sometimes we need to delve deep into the meanings of the words. No problem with that.

    And how about some refutations as to why the scriptures that have been quoted here are not saying what they appear to say. e.g., “they shall be burnt up”. It's not as if it is one or two obscure scriptures we are talking about. There is a whole raft of scriptures on the fate of the wicked and I haven't heard one good reason not to believe them.

    June 14, 2013 at 9:50 pm#347633
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    there are rules to interpretation. 1.what does it say. 2.who was it said to 3. what was going on. 4. are there any scriptures about the same subject. also clear interprets unclear, is it meant to be clear?. so, going from there, with all the scriptures we have included, we can see from them that the sinners and saints are all raised for judgment and all have glorified bodies. the scriptures we have I wrote this Thursday on cell phone: quoted all talk about fire and burning and destruction. the anomaly seems too be the Thessiloians one says “eternal destruction” and reveals the destruction continues for eternity just as the saints are eternally alive. the problem is twofold, it says both states are eternal. so saying destruction is not an eternal state does not fit as it would say something different? I think the most telling points are the clarity of the chosen words by generations of translators, it's not unclear in original greek, also this anilationism is only recent theology opinion. I wrote all this on a cell phone! :p

    June 14, 2013 at 11:18 pm#347635
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    @ palal.

    We both agree that Hell is real and the Lake of Fire is eternal of which Hell is thrown into.
    We both agree that life is eternal for the elect and that life is not eternal for the wicked or do you believe that life is also eternal for the wicked.

    So just as life is eternal for the righteous so it is that destruction is eternal for the wicked.

    You just need to understand what the word destruction really means. You infer that eternal destruction means eternal existence of being ruined but never arriving to the point of destruction. I have yet to see a scripture that explains it that way.

    Yet I can show a whole raft of scriptures that show it the other way and this way also has the advantage of not contradicting itself. In other words eternal destruction as meaning always destroyed is not an oxymoron like saying that they are eternally being ruined but never attaining destruction.

    In the end this is the only point that I can see where we differ and it is a matter of understanding only as we both accept the scriptures.

    But as I said, I can show you scriptures to prove what destruction in this fire really means, but I haven't seen you show me a scripture that explains it the way you say it is.

    As usual I would consider any scripture and study it in order to get the truth of the matter. So up to you to show me a scripture where men suffer consciously in fire for all eternity. Until then, I hold to the scriptures that I have quoted and accept them at face value.

    One thing that is clear to me from talking with others on this website is that many follow traditions that have been handed down and few there be that go against these traditions on the account of scripture. Perhaps they are afraid to go against tradition.

    June 15, 2013 at 5:28 am#347676
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    it's a simple question we return to, why did the HS put the words “eternal destruction” together if it is not “ongoing destruction for eternity” ? Why does it say what it says?

    June 15, 2013 at 6:14 am#347685
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    Have a listen to this :) :) , this is what finally convinced me of the reality of eternity: http://media.shepherdsfellowship.org/2012….019.mp3
    http://www.gracechurch.org/media/6776/hell_under_fire/

    June 15, 2013 at 9:12 am#782319
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    Ok..you say these Scriptures dispel the traditional view of an eternal hell (and I WILL take a look at them..) but why do I feel like you’re avoiding the actual meaning of the word ‘destruction’ as found in any Bible Dictionary you happen to pick up…which puts it very black and white – not annihilation, not extinction..!!??

    June 15, 2013 at 10:12 am#782320
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    ..you’re saying that the idea/belief of hell being eternal is not true, but rather a Christian ‘Tradition’ handed down to us..

    you mention the ‘Second death’ – hell thrown into the lake of fire..but we know from Rev. 20:10 that the torment of this second death is an everlasting torment, “..and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”

    From the Scriptures you quote it’s quite obvious to me they are referring to the sinners life on earth, that will be destroyed by fire..(Psalm 104:35 “…sinners be consumed OUT OF THE EARTH..” – Ezekiel 28:18 “…and I will bring thee to ashes UPON THE EARTH..”) I really don’t see how you can use these verses to say that all the souls in hell will be ‘annihilated’ at the second death – there’s just no relevance or connection to hell or the after-life at all..

    June 15, 2013 at 10:41 am#782321
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    Matthew 7:13,14
    “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.”

    Clearly the righteous inherit eternal life. But the traditional view which you support would have me believe that the wicked also have eternal life. The only difference being where that eternal life is spent. I do not hold this view and I am yet to see a verse that says humans have an eternal soul. Eternal life is a gift, not something that is inherent. And the reason for that is that he gives eternal life only to the righteous because if he gave eternal life to the wicked too, then that means that they would live eternally as sinners which is clearly not biblical.

    I believe what this verse is teaching us polar opposites, (life & destruction) whereas the popular view is that there is no difference in meaning with the only difference being location of where that eternal life is spent.

    June 15, 2013 at 10:47 am#782322
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    Thanks David. I am going to write a third page which deals with your concerns in this post.

    It will be called something like,
    “Scriptures used to support eternal suffering in Hell”.

    June 15, 2013 at 10:54 am#782323
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    really you are getting mixed up in the meaning of words..the righteous inherit eternal life – the wicked eternal death.. eternal separation from God..

    June 15, 2013 at 10:57 am#782324
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    man died the day he ate the fruit in the garden.. spiritually he was separated from God ..Lake of fire – SECOND death..ETERNAL separation..FOREVER..

    June 15, 2013 at 12:12 pm#782325
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    There are some pretty scary verses concerning hell, Rev. 14:10-11 says, “The same [those that worship the beast or receive his mark] shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of His indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone [reference to second death – Rev. 21:8] in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: AND THEY HAVE NO REST DAY NOR NIGHT [they are clearly not annihilated but are experiencing the never-ending reality of this tormented existence], who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”
    The last verse of Isaiah states, “And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against Me: [obviously dead bodies] for their worm shall not die [but while they have ceased to exist on the earth, there is something about them ‘their worm’ – their agony..that shall not die], neither shall their fire [their torment] be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring to all flesh.” ..their bodies deceased – their souls in eternal, unquenchable torment..
    In Matthew hell is referred to as both ‘unquenchable’ fire (3:12), and ‘everlasting’ fire (18:8) Jesus calls this everlasting fire, the fire “prepared for the devil and his angels.” (25:41)..which again is the second death.
    While you say that you see nothing in Scripture to suggest eternal punishment – there is nothing that I’m aware of that says their suffering will ever cease..
    You endeavour to make the verses you’ve shared mean that, but I feel you are confusing, or misunderstanding, the Biblical concept of physical life, with spiritual life and spiritual death…
    Blessings..!!

    June 15, 2013 at 1:00 pm#347706
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    Quote (palal @ June 15 2013,19:28)
    it's a simple question we return to, why did the HS put the words “eternal destruction” together if it is not “ongoing destruction for eternity” ? Why does it say what it says?


    Death on earth is only temporal because the wicked will be raised again at the resurrection of the dead. Death in the Lake of Fire (the Second Death) however is eternal and not temporary like the first death. In other words it is permanent and irreversible. It lasts forever and ever.

    June 15, 2013 at 1:09 pm#782326
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    Man began to die yes. But it was some time after that Adam died. If Adam died immediately, then what do you call it when he passed away?

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