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Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
T8….You are not seening JESUS as a “prophsied” human being, you are seening him as a preexisting being, morphed into a human body.
Although he existed in the form of God, he emptied himself and took on flesh. Being found as a man he was humble, obeyed God, died for humanity, rose from the dead, and was taken up to be with God in the glory that…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Hi t8,
Your trust in your own understanding is impressive
but sadly deceived.
Trust not in your own understanding.
Okay, I guess you are right, Jesus Christ the Lord was not born on that day in Bethlehem. What was born was just Jesus the man, the Christ came at the Jordan. Yes that angel was not technically correct and he probably got a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
t8,
You are implying Jesus’ sacrifice was in vain.
This a basic tenet of Christianity that Jesus laid down his life for to save believers.
Your words are saying that you do not believe that.
Excuse me. Where does this accusation come from? I believe the angels message about Jesus Christ the Lord being born in Bethlehem on that day, and now t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Are you dodging my explanations?
Do you prefer Scripture to be simple so you do not have to meditate on it?
Many seem not to want to think but prefer to be told what to think by others but I thought you were beyond that.
Do you wonder why Jesus often chose to speak in obscure figures of speech?
No I am not. Kerwin there is simplicity in Christ.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Yes, when we are born from above, we will love, because God is love.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Micah 5:2 clearly is the deal-breaker here.
Yes that is a deal breaker. But for me, and even bigger deal breaker is teaching the exact opposite of what the angel declared about Jesus Christ the Lord, being born that day.
Wow, what arrogance to challenge an angel of God and teach the opposite to the words he delivered about Jesus.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Micah 5:2 clearly is the deal-breaker here.
Yes that is a deal breaker. But for me, and even bigger deal breaker is teaching the exact opposite of what the angel declared about Jesus Christ the Lord being born that day.
Wow, what arrogance to challenge an angel of God and teach the opposite to the words he delivered about Jesus.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Micah 5:2 clearly is the deal-breaker here.
Yes that is a deal breaker. But for me, and even bigger deal breaker is teaching the exact opposite of what the angel declared about Jesus Christ the Lord being born that day.
Wow, what arrogance to challenge that.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Micah 5:2 clearly is the deal-breaker here.
For me, and even bigger deal breaker is teaching the exact opposite of what the angel declared about Jesus Christ being born that day.
Wow, what arrogance to challenge that.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Hi t8,
Your trust in your own understanding is impressive
but sadly deceived.
Trust not in your own understanding.
Lol. Here is my understanding. Feel free to rebuke me more.
“for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.”
Sorry that I do not believe the opposite like you want. But I cannot do…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
lol. I trust in my own understanding because I repeat scripture word for word and rebuke you guys when you say the opposite. It feels like listening to those scientists like Krauss a theoretical physicist who foolishly implied that the universe arose from nothing.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Can you guys not see that y…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
lol. I trust in my own understanding because I repeat scripture word for word and rebuke you guys when you say the opposite. It feels like listening to those scientists like Krauss a theoretical physicist who foolishly implied that the universe arose from nothing.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Can you guys not see that y…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Hi t8,
How can you follow what you do not recognise happening in the life of the Messiah?
Why does it frustrate you that I believe and hold to the scriptures I have quoted, rather than be swayed by your reasoning instead?
Let’s for argument sake you did sway me away from believing those scriptures. What reward do you expect to receive from…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Hi t8,
How can you follow what you do not recognise happening in the life of the Messiah?
Why does it frustrate you that I believe and hold to the scriptures I have quoted, rather than be swayed by your reasoning instead?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Jesus wasn’t the Savior until after he died and was resurrected – Kerwin
for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord – an Angel of God.
Another attempt to draw the opposite conclusion. I trust that angel’s message over yours Kerwin any day of the week.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The word is really the holyspirit in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 3 months ago
But Jesus was born the son of God. So are you saying that he was or had the Holy Spirit when he was born as the son of God?
Luke 1:35
And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.Proclaimer replied to the topic Isaiah 41:18 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Yes, our life comes from God’s Spirit and through his son Jesus Christ. A river of life proceeds from the throne of God where Jesus Christ is seated next to his Father. He invites us to drink and we will never thirst again.
John 4:14
but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Acts 1:6-8 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Google gives a slightly different account of the kms from the source I drew them from. I have updated them to reflect Google’s figures.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Acts 1:6-8 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Google gives a slightly different account of the kms from the source I drew them from. I could change them if they are not quite right.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
That is rebirth not birth.
Jesus was born the messiah. Not reborn the messiah.
Where does it say he was reborn the messiah? I would like to take a look at that.
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