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    Yes God has the logos within him. No one is doubting that. I thought we were talking about the Logos that was with God, the one that became flesh, the one that is Jesus Christ who is called by that name.

    Likewise truth is in God and so is life. Jesus is called these too and he is not God.

    I know a girl called Grace. Grace is an attribute of God too.

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    But no sweat, after all we are not saved based on our doctrinal beliefs, but
    instead on believing in God’s son’s sacrifice for our sins, AND how we treat others.

    Good 🙂

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    Ed j.

    Did God create all things alone? Yes / No

    Did God create you alone? Yes / No

    Were you created through your parents? Yes / No

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    Why would his own history be relevant if his role was as a spokesperson for God?

    His history is relevant because God made all things for him and through him. The last book in the Bible is dedicated to him and much of the Old Testament is prophecy pertaining to him. Even the gospels are about him and in the letters of Paul, Jesus plays a central…[Read more]

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    Why would his own history be relevant if his role was as a spokesperson for God?

    His history is relevant because God made all things for him and through him. The last book in the Bible is dedicated to him and much of the Old Testament is prophecy pertaining to him. Even the gospels are about him and in the letters of Paul, Jesus plays a central…[Read more]

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    T8…..I ask you on the preexistence thread to tell us who was speaking inReveations to the Seven Chureches , was it THE MAN JESUS or was it the SPIRIT OF GOD SPEAKING THROUGH HIM, or was it both speaking, esus told usthat it wasthe Spirit speaking and sais to him that has the ears to hear let him hear what the spirit is saying. So tell us was it t…

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    Hi t8,

    Did the other prophets talk about themselves in this way?

    Not to the some degree of course because they were servants, and Jesus the son.

    However, off the top of my head, John said he was a voice shouting in the wilderness and perhaps other prophets claimed things that were right to claim.

    When Jesus said, “Before Abraham, I am”, he…[Read more]

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    At least we can agree that it was not God himself that was being referred to in that context. Even Gene changed his mind which is good in the sense that he can change his mind. And Nick agreed with Gene in the end, as well as Lightenup on another matter. It may or may not be right, but in the least, some are in agreement.

    God may be THE Rock,…[Read more]

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    At least we can agree that it was not God himself that was being referred to in that context. Even Gene changed his mind which is good in the sense that he can change his mind.

    He may be THE Rock, but he was not THIS rock.

    I think further debate on this will not accomplish much. We have all been given the information, and our opinions, so what…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    @DannyD

    Sorry, only God is to be worshipped….Father AND Son.

    There are two clear errors in your statement quoted above.

    1) God is not the only one ‘worshipped’. Did you know that worship is the same word as ‘honour’? For example, the Father is worshipped as God in Heaven, while Jesus is worshipped as the Lamb of God. Clearly they are honoured a…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    @DannyD

    Sorry, only God is to be worshipped….Father AND Son.

    There are two clear errors in your statement quoted above.

    1) God is not the only one ‘worshipped’. Did you know that worship is the same word as ‘honour’? For example, the Father is worshipped as God in Heaven, while Jesus is worshipped as the Lamb of God. Clearly they are honoured a…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    @DannyD

    Sorry, only God is to be worshipped….Father AND Son.

    There are two clear errors in your statement quoted above.

    1) God is not the only one ‘worshipped’. Did you know that worship is the same word as ‘honour’? For example, the Father is worshipped as God in Heaven, while Jesus is worshipped as the Lamb of God. Clearly they are honoured a…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    @DannyD

    Sorry, only God is to be worshipped….Father AND Son.

    There are two clear errors in your statement quoted above.

    1) God is not the only one ‘worship’. Did you know that worship is the same word as ‘honour’? For example, the Father is worshipped as God in Heaven, while Jesus is worshipped as the Lamb of God. This is written in Revelation w…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    @DannyD

    Sorry, only God is to be worshipped….Father AND Son.

    There are two clear errors in this statement.

    1) God is not the only one ‘worship’. Did you know that worship is the same word as ‘honour’? For example, the Father is worshipped as God in Heaven, while Jesus is worshipped as the Lamb of God. This is written in Revelation when it d…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    @Danny Dabbs

    Sorry, only God is to be worshipped….Father AND Son.

    There are two clear errors in this statement.

    1) God is not the only one ‘worship’. Did you know that worship is the same word as ‘honour’? For example, the Father is worshipped as God in Heaven, while Jesus is worshipped as the Lamb of God. This is written in Revelation when it d…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    Sorry, only God is to be worshipped….Father AND Son.

    There are two clear errors in this statement.

    1) God is not the only one ‘worship’. Did you know that worship is the same word as ‘honour’? For example, the Father is worshipped as God in Heaven, while Jesus is worshipped as the Lamb of God. This is written in Revelation when it describes H…[Read more]

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    Hi T8,

    So you consider then that it may have been because of Jesus
    (yet future) death on the cross that God created
    all things through him?

    That would be grasping at straws.

    John goes to great length to tell us about the Word that was with God in the beginning. That word became flesh and this is Jesus. We know that God created through his Word…[Read more]

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    Hi T8,

    So you consider then that it may have been because of Jesus
    (yet future) death on the cross that God created
    all things through him?

    That would be grasping at straws.

    John goes to great length to tell us about the Word that was with God in the beginning. That word became flesh and this is Jesus. We know that God created through his Word…[Read more]

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