Shedding innocent blood is a terrible thing. But God paid the ultimate price (a terrible price) in order to bring many sons to glory. But your religion teaches that God has no son at all, thus you are not a son as your religion states. If you are a son, then you cannot hold to the views of Mohammed.

To all, has the shock of this post caused all to become slient, seening it has been concilled for so many years? It’s time for us all to wake up. IMO
peace and love to you all and yours. …….gene

Let me tell you straight what is going on. Most if not all here on Heaven Net do not take your ideas seriously. Thus they didn’t bother to read your…[Read more]

Nick, you hinted in another topic that you were going to run away for a time if it came down to a Hot Seat topic. If true, you will still have your posting rights revoked for non-answer.  The Hot Seat is a must answer forum and the rules state that posting rights are revoked if a member refuses to answer any fair yes / no question.

QUESTION: Are your words and the scripture quoted below contradictory?

You said:

T8….NO SCRIPTURE SAYS JESUS “WAS” BORN THE SAVIOR,

Scripture says:

for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord

Yes / No in your post. Your explanation can follow in another post.

QUESTION: Are your words and the scripture contradictory?

You said:

T8….NO SCRIPTURE SAYS JESUS “WAS” BORN THE SAVIOR,

Scripture says:

for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord

Yes / No in your post. Your explanation can follow in another post.

While Nick clearly teaches that Jesus was not the Christ at birth and for most if his earthly life, so it is that Gene also teaches this. Nick said:

Of course Jesus was made both Lord and Christ so was not conceived or born as such.

https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-jesus-the-logos/page/49/#post-808401

Gene too has said something similar.…[Read more]

While Nick clearly teaches that Jesus was not the Christ at birth and for most if his earthly life, so it is that Gene also teaches this. Nick said:

Of course Jesus was made both Lord and Christ so was not conceived or born as such.

Is Jesus the Logos?

Gene too has said something similar.…[Read more]

T8….NO SCRIPTURE SAYS JESUS “WAS” BORN THE SAVIOR,

Wrong!

for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord

Clearly the angels message is contradictory to your statement Gene. You are obviously wrong. Where is your love for the truth? Is the love of stubborn pride greater than that of truth?

T8….NICK OR I AM NOT SAYING HE WAS NOT “BORN” TO BE THE SAVIOR OR MESSIAH,

I realise that. But it clearly says: “for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord“.

Whereas both of you deny this and are really saying that he was not born a savior or Christ, or Lord.

That is what you are saying. By exten…[Read more]

Following the format, I require a yes no answer only your next post. You can explain all you like in a following post.

Regarding this scripture:

“for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord”?

In the bolded text in the above scripture, is it saying:

Jesus was ‘Christ the Lord’ when he was born…[Read more]

Hi T8,

All questions answered so what is your justification?

This could be a good time to take a break.

 

It seem you want to have only folk here who agree with you.

When you cool down I may return.

I’ll set it up anyway. If you run away, that is your choice.

You still sit with the philosophers and Nicodemus.

Where did Nicodemus say this?

Luke 2:10-11
But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of great joy which will be for all the people; for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.

No Nick, I can offer much more than saying you are blabbering. Perhaps you are not reading my posts to you. I guess it has come to the stage of putting you on the Hot Seat.

But you do NOT believe that Jesus was born the messiah and the Lord. You clearly confessed this publicly and are yet to take responsibility for your error and say you are/were wrong.

Jesus the baby/man was born the savior, Christ, and son of God. Even the Lord. You teach a Jesus who was not born as these because you said:

Of course Jesus was…

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Gene and Nick. Scripture says that Jesus was born the Christ, savior, the Lord, even the son of God. Any disagreement puts you in disagreement with God and the angel he sent to deliver the message. It is written clearly and I believe it. Yet you writhe in agony over this. Strange.