Second Thesalonians explained

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  • #816955
     GeneBalthrop 
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    NICK….I DO BELIEVE SPIRITS CAN AND DO IMPART THEIR PATICULAR TYPES AND KIND OF INTELLECTS IO US, WE ARE BEING RENEWED IN OUR MINDS BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD. THAT IS THE THINKING WHICH IS THE INTELLECT OF OUR MINDS. But none of that has to do with this topic about 2Ths 2, just like you believing the seven spirits of God are angels, where is your scriptural support for that? Trying to derail this thread is not serving THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH NICK. YOU HAVE YET TO MENTION ONE THING CONCERNING THIS SUBJECT, NOT EVEN ONE. YOUR JUST MAKEING IT ALL ABOUT ME, NOT ABOUT SUBJECT MATTER, WHY IS THAT NICK?, what spirit is that from?

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #816957
     KangarooJack 
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    I see that Nick is still as sassy as ever lol.

    #816959
     NickHassan 
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    Hi GB,

    Scripture Is not used to disprove personal opinions.

    You must provide backup.

    #816969
     GeneBalthrop 
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    NICK….GO BACK AN REREAD WHAT I WROTE, If IT is just MY OPINION the scripture says what it is saying then rejct it? IF I AM IN ERROR THEN PLEASE SHOW IT FROM THOSE SAME SCRIPTURES OR OTHERS SCRIPTURES. THIS truth has been hidden for centuries and at this last time reavealed, tothe true belivers, but you fight against it, while having us believe you have the spirit of truth in you, if so then how is it you can’t clearly see and understand it, OR ARE YOU SIMPLY LYING AND DO SEE IT, BUT RATHER REJECT THE TRUTH THEN ACCEPT IT? Why ask me for further support scriptures you should be able to find them yourself if you are truly led by the spirit of GOD RIGHT?

    Believe what you will Nick, but derailing this subject is doing great harm and to all the truth of God. YOU will be held accountable IMO.

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #816972
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Kangrojack…..Good to hear from you again hope all is well with you , now please read this post on 2 Ths 2 explained and let us hear what you think.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

    #816976
     NickHassan 
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    Hi GB,

    You have not proved your case being reliant only on one chapter of the NT overlaid with your personal opinions.

    #816987
     GeneBalthrop 
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    NICK….I THOUGHT YOU BELIEVE IN THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, THAT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU? I MAINTAIN THAT EVERY WORD I HAVE SAID REGUARDING THIS SUBJECT IS TRUE, AND THOSE SCRIPTURES ARE MY PROOF. I HAVE NOT BEEN RELYING ON JUST ONE CHAPTER, AND I HAVE LISTED OTHERS FOR YOU , BUT NONE OF THAT SEEMED TO MATTER, WHY NOT LET THE SPIRIT HAVE IT’S PERFECT WORK. IF WHAT I SAID DOES NOT FIT SCRIPTURES THEN REJECT IT, BUT IF IT DOES EXCEPT IT THEN. EVEN IF 2Ths 2 WAS THE ONLY CHAPTER IN ALL THE BIBLE THAT DEALS WITH THAT PATICULAR ISSUE IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE AS REGUARDS TO THE TRUTH. EVEN IF JESUS DID NOT SAY “MANY” WOULD COME AND SAYING “I AM”, I AM WHAT?, A GOD? EVEN IF THE FALSE TEACHING OF THE GNOSTIC’S WHO THE APOSTLE FOUGHT AGAINT SAID JESUS WAS A GOD, EVEN IF GOD SAID “YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GOD BESIDES ME, IT MAKE NO DIFFERENCE TO YOU BECAUSE IT IS NOT ABOUT THE TRUTH NOW IS IT NICK, IT’S MORE ABOUT YOU OPINIOM OF ME RIGHT?

    YOU ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT SATAN WANTS, BY DERAIL THIS SUBJECT, WHY CAN’T YOU SEE THAT? YOU WILL BE HELD ACOUNTABLE, IMO

    Who ever has ears to hear let him hear.

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #816991
     NickHassan 
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    Hi GB,

    Scripture is true.

    Your personal interpretations need to be tested.

    #816992
     Ed J 
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    I AM WHAT?, A GOD?

    Hi GB,

    Scripture is true.

    Your personal interpretations need to be tested.

    Hi Nick,

    You are right, Gene’s personal interpretations need to be tested.
    When they are we see that he is attempting to massage
    the Scripture to match what he believes.

    2 Thess 2:4 says: “showing himself that he is God”,
    NOT showing himself that he is ‘A GOD’…

    …so when we do, we see that Gene’s ideas concerning this are all washed up!

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #816993
     NickHassan 
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    Hi GB,

    Paul boasted of his sufferings, not of his knowledge and understanding.

    He claimed to be a servant of Christ and said he believed he had the Spirit.

    He never claimed to be infallible because he had been blessed with wisdom.

    #816995
     Ed J 
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    Hi GB,

    Paul boasted of his sufferings, not of his knowledge and understanding.

    He claimed to be a servant of Christ and said he believed he had the Spirit.

    He never claimed to be infallible because he had been blessed with wisdom.

    Hi Nick,

    If Paul said he is of servant of Christ and God,
    then “the spirit of Christ” cannot, cannot, cannot
    be God’s “HolySpirit” as you and Gene falsely believe.

    And Micah 5:2 makes this point clear!

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #816996
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    Why do you think the Spirit is not one but divided?

    #816997
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    We know the Spirit is one.

    We know that there are two aspects of the one Spirit.

     

    Father/ son.

    Master /servant

     

    We know that if we are in Christ we share the Spirit of Christ. rom 8.9

    We know that another counsellor, the Spirit of truth from the Father, would be sent. jn 16.7

    We know we can fellowship with the Father and the Son in the communion of the Holy Spirit.2 cor 13.14

    We know that those who abide in the teaching of Christ have the Father and the Son. 2jn

     

    It is only confusing if you rely on human concepts.

    #816998
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    The sons of God are led by the Spirit of God.

     

    Jesus was led by the Spirit of God.

    By the plan of God all in Christ share the Spirit of Christ.

    As we are united with Christ we become one in the Spirit with him and his Father.

     

    Why would you try to divide what is one?

    #816999
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    Jesus was conceived like every other man.

    Conception does not involve the Spirit.

    #817006
     GeneBalthrop 
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    TO ALL…..This is amazing, not so much as one descussion about 2 THS 2. AND WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN, CONCERNING IT. Except for Marty, and kerwin, other then that JUST personal attacks on me, amazing simple amazing.

    peace and love to you all……..gene

    #817007
     GeneBalthrop 
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    EDJ….Paul boasting or not about anything has NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I WROTE ABOUT. Your doing exactly what Satan wants, derailing subject matter by attacking me personally, to get the eyes off the subject, just as Nick has done also.

    Why not both of you simply talk about the subject for a change, forget about me if you can, I AM NOTHING.

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #817008
     KangarooJack 
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    Nick Hassan said:

    Jesus was conceived like every other man.

    Jesus was NOT conceived like every other man. Other men are NOT conceived by the Holy Spirit and of a virgin woman. read the scriptures.

    #817009
     NickHassan 
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    Hi KJV,

    Yes he is a man.

    His life began at conception.

    Born of woman

    #817020
     KangarooJack 
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    Your confession falls far short of the testimony of scripture Nick.

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