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Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
We agree that we bow our knee to Jesus and call Him Lord to the glory of God his Father.
So we will bow our knee and call him Lord to the glory of God the son too?
Not God the Son, but the son of God.
The Antichrist spirit denies he is the son of God whether that be blatantly or subtly like a serpent.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Gene about when Jesus was considered the messiah in the forum The Hot Seat 9 years, 8 months ago
Gene. You are on the Hot Seat. Before you ask any question of which I am happy to answer, you must answer your question which was posed earlier. Go back to the post above and answer the question in the correct format please.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Gene on free will in the forum The Hot Seat 9 years, 8 months ago
T8……When Adam and Eve were created they had no concept of good and evil, there eye were not opened to it, until after they were tempted by Satan to do what they did. GOD KNEW all along they would eventually disobey him, because he did not put in man a means to direct his steps, as scripture says, “it is not within man to direct his paths” so a so…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mark 7:13 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 8 months ago
Gene. You twist my words the wrong way. Mere men is in reference to Jesus Christ. He is not just a man Gene, but the firstborn of all creation and image of the invisible God. You take away all this honour and glory and make him a mere man only. Yes man is not mere compared with much of creation. But putting Jesus at your level is putting him down.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 8 months ago
I address people’s questions and refute false doctrine carefully. Before you say ‘remove the log’ try reading my posts and you will see that I do not cover my head in the sand. Accusations are easy to make. But what I said about you is true, you just repeat the same old stuff well after myself and others have refuted your teachings. And you do not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 8 months ago
I address people’s questions and refute false doctrine carefully. Before you say ‘remove the log’ try reading my posts and you will see that I do not cover my head in the sand. Accusations are easy to make. But what I said about you is true, you just repeat the same old stuff well after myself and others have refuted your teachings. And you do not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 9 years, 8 months ago
I address people’s questions and refute false doctrine carefully. Before you say ‘remove the log’ try reading my posts and you will see that I do not cover my head in the sand. Accusations are easy to make. But what I said about you is true. You just repeat the same old stuff well after myself and others have refuted your teachings. And you do not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
Christians recognize that YHVH is both Father and Son-two entities.
Indoctrinated ones indeed might believe that. But we have the scriptures, so there is no excuse if we read.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
Jesus is clearly identified as the only begotten Son of God. It is a reasonable argument to say that Jesus, before he came in the flesh and even before creation, was begotten as the same type of being as the one who begat him.
Correct. And we too can be begotten of God. But we are not YHWH just as Jesus isn’t. We are his sons and Jesus is the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
Same old worn out argument. You are confused. Those in the boat committed idolatry according to the Decalogue if Jesus was not God.
Will you ever be able to come up with a slam dunk argument?
“Trinitarians are confused. Worship alone does not make something God.”
This is a true statement. You have been slam-dunked more times than I can r…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
Same old worn out argument. You are confused. Those in the boat committed idolatry according to the Decalogue if Jesus was not God.
Will you ever be able to come up with a slam dunk argument?
“Trinitarians are confused. Worship alone does not make something God.”
This is a true statement. You have been slam-dunked more times than I can r…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
In bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through what he suffered.
Beloved, now we are children of God, and it is not yet revealed what we will be. We know that, when he is revealed, we will be like him; for we will see…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
There is no difference. The son of someone is ontologically the same as his father.
Son of Man = Man (ontologically)
Son of God = God (ontologically)Again, you like all Trinitarians who claim to understand that doctrine and teach it, they make the same error, that of mixing up nature vs identity.
You see, we are called the sons of God and who…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Isaiah 41:18 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 8 months ago
Hi t8,
That is one way to avoid answering questions.
But better to front up.It’s called the Hot Seat. I fronted up, but you didn’t. You were not willing to let your yes be yes and no be no. You preferred the detail only where you were able to dodge the real issue.
I don’t avoid questions. When I come to them, I answer them to the best of my…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Isaiah 41:18 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 8 months ago
Hi t8,
So you say the words were not from the Spirit but the man?
You are double minded it seems.No. That is what you say that I say. But you are wrong again.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 8 months ago
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 8 months ago
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 8 months ago
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 8 months ago
Proclaimer replied to the topic Matthew 13:47-50 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 8 months ago
This is the same lake viewed from the plane as I left.
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