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Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
KJ, this is a kind word toward you.
Teachers are judged more severely and you are obviously not up to the task. It would bode better for you to not teach at the moment and learn. God calls us into ministry when the time is right.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
t8: For me there is one God the Father and two Lords the Father and Jesus Christ.
You are playing with words to support a doctrine that is not taught.
Remember that lord can mean master or sir.
What do you think Jesus should be called if God gave him rule over his creation?
I think Lord is apt. But God is still above him whether you give God…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
KJ, there are many who are lord. If you rent or have rented a house, then you have a landlord. But if that landlord was a Believer, then Jesus is his Lord. And guess what? God is above him, so yes in this sense he is Lord over Christ and all, but the term he is given in our NT is God. Paul distinguishes the difference between the Father and the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
KJ, there are many who are lord. If you rent or have rented a house, then you have a landlord. But if that landlord was a Believer, then Jesus is his Lord. And guess what? God is above him, so yes in this sense he is Lord over Christ and all, but the term he is given in our NT is God. Paul distinguishes the difference between the Father and the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
KJ, there are many who are lord. If you rent or have rented a house, then you have a landlord. But if that landlord was a Believer, then Jesus is his Lord,. and guess what God is above him, so yes in this sense he is Lord over Christ and all. But Paul distinguishes the difference between the Father and the Son as God and Lord. And to put this…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
KJ, there are many who are lord. If you rent or have rented a house, then you have a landlord. But if that landlord was a Believer, then Jesus is his Lord,. and guess what God is above him, so yes in this sense he is Lord over Christ and all. But Paul distinguishes the difference between the Father and the Son as God and Lord. And to put this…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
KJ, there are many who are lord. If you rent or have rented a house, then you have a landlord. But if that landlord was a Believer, then Jesus is his Lord,. and guess what God is above him, so yes in this sense he is Lord over Christ and all. But Paul distinguishes the difference between the Father and the Son as God and Lord. And to put this…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
I agree. And I agree that the Trinity Doctrine is a false doctrine. I have been refuting this doctrine on this site from the beginning.
Keeping to this topic, what is you view on the sons of God in Job and Genesis 6?
Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God s…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
I agree. And I agree that the Trinity Doctrine is a false doctrine. I have been refuting this doctrine on this site from the beginning.
Keeping to this topic, what is you view on the sons of God in Job and Genesis 6?
Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God s…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord (Christ) and the cup of demons;
“Father, if You are willing, take this cup from Me. Yet not My will, but Yours be done.”
Then an angel from heaven appeared to Him and strengthened Him.…Who gave Jesus the cup to drink? Clue is in the above verse which says “Yet not My will, but Yours be done”.
It amazes…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
The Aramaic Bible has it right t8.
Like most die-hard Trinitarians, you will grasp at anything that remotely supports your triple personality God view. In this case, you choose a translation that is not like any other and say this is the one that gets it right compared to the rest. And your only evidence is wait for it….it agrees with the T…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
The Aramaic Bible has it right t8.
Like most die-hard Trinitarians, you will believe anything that remotely supports your triple personality God view. In this case, you choose a translation that is not like any other and say this is the one that gets it right. You also ignore the fact that the Dead Sea Scrolls are some of the oldest, if not the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
The Aramaic Bible has it right t8.
Like most die-hard Trinitarians, you will believe anything that remotely supports your triple personality God view. In this case, you choose a translation that is not like any other and say this is the one that gets it right. You also ignore the fact that the Dead Sea Scrolls are some of the oldest, if not the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
Aramaic Bible: To us, ours is one God The Father…and The One LORD JEHOVAH Yeshua The Messiah….
If you get this from one translation and a suspicious one at that, then it appears that you are getting desperate KJ.
I can give you hundreds of clear scriptures in any translation about who God really is and who Jesus really is.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
Oops! t8 overlooked that the Greek “kurios” (lord) is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew YHWH.
Not so fast KJ.
Kurios can mean sir, see Matthew 27:63:
“Sir,” they said, “We remember that while he was still alive that deceiver said, ‘After three days I will rise again.’ “.
It Also Means Master Or Owner in 1 Peter 3:6
Thus Sarah obeyed Abrah…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
Oops! t8 overlooked that the Greek “kurios” (lord) is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew YHWH.
Not so fast KJ.
Kurios can mean sir, see Matthew 27:63:
“Sir,” they said, “We remember that while he was still alive that deceiver said, ‘After three days I will rise again.’ “.
It Also Means Master Or Owner in 1 Peter 3:6
Thus Sarah obeyed Abrah…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
Oops! t8 overlooked that the Greek “kurios” (lord) is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew YHWH.
Not so fast KJ.
Kurios can mean sir, see Matthew 27:63:
“Sir,” they said, “We remember that while he was still alive that deceiver said, ‘After three days I will rise again.’ “.
It Also Means Master Or Owner in 1 Peter 3:6
Thus Sarah obeyed Abrah…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
I have no argument with you Jael. I was agreeing with you. My last post in this topic was addressed to Nick.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
For some reason you cannot seem to grasp the idea of an eternal father having within him an offspring ready to be begotten from him and then at one point, actually begotten from him.
I can grasp a 50 foot spaghetti monster and many other things, that is not the problem. I have a problem with people who pretend to teach things that are biblical…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
I believe, that you do not take me seriously if you think that I teach that Jesus is God the Father.
lol. You say this and you roll your eyes at me? Look in the mirror and roll your eyes at the same time if you can.
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