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Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 9 years, 9 months ago
You are being silly. Paul tells us the reason to pray for kings and those in authority. It is not to save the world as such, but that God’s people can live in peace and I suppose to freely teach and preach the truth.
Jesus did not come here to save this world system, rather to save the people in it. Paul is not telling you to pray that this world…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 9 years, 9 months ago
You are being silly. Paul tells us the reason to pray for kings and those in authority. It is not to save the world as such, but that God’s people can live in peace and I suppose to freely teach and preach the truth.
Jesus did not come here to save this world, but to take people from this world and put them into the Kingdom of God. Paul is not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The False "Church System" Deception in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
Terr, to be clear, all light comes from God. And beings that are one with God will have that light in them and shine it out. That includes Jesus, Apostles, and all who are one with God thereafter and today.
But you still said this which is technically wrong. You should admit it is wrong and say that you have changed your mind, or that you didn’t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The coming four blood moons in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 9 years, 9 months ago
Yes the Earth is a grain of sand. But the stars can be used as signs. A bit like me saying that I will leave the country when this tree loses its leaves. The tree has nothing really to do with me, but I am using it as a reference point.
Luke 21:25-26
…’And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic The coming four blood moons in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 9 years, 9 months ago
Yes the Earth is a grain of sand. But the stars can be used as signs. A bit like me saying that when the tree loses its leaves, then I will travel. The tree has nothing really to do with me, but I am using it as a reference point.
Luke 21:25-26
…’And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth d…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 & Revelation 1:17-18 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
Terr, you can answer your own question.
Look for where it says ‘ONLY’ 144,000 are redeemed from the Earth. If you cannot find it, then look at where it talks about others who are not of the 144,000 standing before the throne of God.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
LU, you have taught that both the Father and the Son make up this one God. That is incorrect. There is one God the Father and one Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ. And yes, the Father is greater than the son. And God greater than the Lord.
“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The coming four blood moons in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 9 years, 9 months ago
So you agree now that God made the sun, moon, and stars as signs and seasons?
Proclaimer replied to the topic The False "Church System" Deception in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
you see we are not the origin of the light only carriers
I never said that did I. You are detracting from your own teaching that says that the light died with the Apostles and was only present in their words.
Be honest or live a delusion. They are your choices.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The False "Church System" Deception in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
no, you did not prove me wrong unless you change the gospels ,(teachings of Christ)
So you are sticking with this being correct, even though it contradicts scripture?
the apostles lived with Jesus and Jesus was the light ,only after he went up,they (apostles ) became the light and when they left it was their message that became the light
Look if…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 & Revelation 1:17-18 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth.
Terr, this verse does not say that only 144,000 are redeemed from the earth. It says that 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth sang a new song that no one else…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 & Revelation 1:17-18 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
Yes, because it doesn’t say ONLY anywhere.
The 144,000
4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred and forty-four thousand sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:5 from the tribe of Judah, twelve thousand were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand, from the tribe of Gad twelve thousand, 6 from the tribe of…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 9 years, 9 months ago
I have ask you if God and his son have changed the gospel call through which all men are called by faith ?
did God through his scriptures as establish a different access to him beside the blood of his son ? please if yes show it to me I may have overlooked it
This doesn’t relate to the topic. If we are told to pray for people, does that somehow…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 9 years, 9 months ago
bravo;so we should pray for Nero,Hitler,caligula ,and the despot in North Korea,Stalin, and all the likes ,
you should really read your scriptures more carefully ,
Of course we should have at the time they were in authority. Prayer changes things. It is a petition to God about something specific. It doesn’t mean that you pray that Hitler would…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
You seem to take the position of 2
I would say 3, and the explanation is in the two posts above this one.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
In short, the eternal invisible spirit who is God is seen through creation, angels, and primarily through his son.
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities–his eternal power and divine nature–have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
See how we can actually see the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
In short, the eternal invisible spirit who is God is seen through creation, angels, and primarily through his son.
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities–his eternal power and divine nature–have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
See how we can actually see the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
Togel, the LORD manifests himself through his people. He appears to us when he sends a messenger or the son. The eternal invisible God doesn’t literally walk around and shake people’s hand and drink a glass of water with them. No, he lives inside people that do things like that. In the Old Testament, people saw YHWH when they saw the angel of the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
No, for us, there is one God the Father. I know you are not ‘us’ that is obvious. You have this other doctrine that I have never heard anyone else believe. I have yet to meet one person who agrees with you. But you can go through life as another that is not ‘us’. It is your life, do with it as you will.
yet for us there is but one God, the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The coming four blood moons in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 9 years, 9 months ago
Signs can tell us the season or can tell us to look for something God is pointing to. On another scale we use celestial objects as time keepers. Day night, summer winter, year, tides, etc. Not talking about astrology, but the obvious way we use the sun, moon, and stars in everyday time keeping and as pointing to other signs too.
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