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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago
T8, were you seriously only 248 meters high when you took that photo? Because if so, this is big.
Yes Mike, I was 248 metres high according to this google search. I was standing at an official lookout that has a recorded height of 248 metres. Next time I pass by here I will photograph the plaque if there is one. They usually tell you the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago
I know that things can look bigger on the horizon because of the way light is reflected through moisture or something like that. I have on a few occasions seen things appear bigger when looking in the direction the photo was taken. The low-rise on the peninsula once looked like it had high rise apartments. I boiled it down to moisture in the air…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago
Another quick point. Imagine the circumference of an eternal circle. It would be a straight line right? So a really big circle would also appear as a straight line too. Compared to us, the Earth is a very big circle or sphere. So that at least supports the idea of a spherical Earth right? It’s not like that is counterintuitive or not logical. Not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago
Okay, Mike. I found a photo (not mine) that is a similar projection to my photo except it is taken up close and shows the lower flanks of Mt Ruapehu clearly.

I have attached my image so you can download it and zoom in on it and make a decent comparison.
IMO, my photo doesn’t show the very lowest part of the mountain. The above photo…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago
Here is the world record holder for distance photography. The peak in the center is 2.7 Km tall, and 392 Km away. We’re not told the height of the photographer, but if he took the photo from ground level, we’d be talking about 12 Km of curvature that should be hiding the 2.7 Km tall mountain. And even if he took it from the very top of the mo…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago
Mike, you say we (heliocentric model believers) rely too much on the testimony of scientists, but is it possible that you rely too much on the testimony of the math calculator or the formula you use?
For me, there is a huge range of evidence for the heliocentric model. Consider that New Zealand launches rockets and satellites into Space and even…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago
I put the data into one of the many earth curve calculators you can find online, and put your camera height at 1000 feet. The result was 3 miles hidden due to curve. The higher you were, the less will be hidden. I put you at 10,000 feet high, and then there’s only supposed to be 3000 feet of that mountain hidden behind curvature.
I would h…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago
(I don’t know what I did to make one of those screenshots sideways.
Maybe it is because NZ and US are on the side of a globe, so it was the right way up, but when the Earth became flat it then appeared sideways. Okay, that was a joke. Carry on.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago
Hi Mike.
No probs about answering everything from me. I will just put my ideas out there for all to read. If you or anyone else wishes to address anything I say, then good. If not, then I won’t take it personally. This is because this is not a foundational doctrine of the faith. If one man views it as he sees from his own perspective, and another…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago
There is another possibility. If indeed we can see objects that according to the dimensions of the Earth, we shouldn’t be able to see with a telescope, then here is one explanation. Light is what makes things visible and light can reflect and refract off things such as physical objects and even clouds and moisture. So it is possible to peak over…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago
Can anyone explain why we can see buildings, mountains, and other objects like the Statue of Liberty and lighthouses from many times farther away than we should?
Maybe the Earth is so big that it is possible to see these things from great distances before the curvature makes them invisible.
A better question might be why I cannot see Alaska…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago
Hey no worries Mike and no pressure at all. Sometimes I take weeks to answer a post as there are more important things in life that take precedence.
Just good to hear from you again bro.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago
Hey Mike, I was just thinking. If it was a flat Earth, wouldn’t it come to an end?
Jesus did say a few things about the end of the world. lol.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago
Superstition Mountain is 4000 feet tall. At 55 miles (55 x 55 x 8), there should be 2016 feet hidden by curvature. That’s slightly more than half of it. It doesn’t look that way to me. It looks like I can see the vast majority of the whole thing. What do you see?
Good Mike. You check stuff out unlike most people. Of course checking stu…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago
More proof of the Antarctica
Imagine the extent of the hoax and the people in this video either being deceived or complicit in the hoax.
A huge conspiracy relying on everyone being complicit and for what purpose? Seems like a huge resourced conspiracy that has no real purpose.Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago
Proof of the Antarctica
A thorough investigation into a plane crash in the Antarctica. You would think the last thing that the conspirators would want is a public airline accident investigation in Antarctica given all the research required by many people and organisations.Mike, commercial airlines use to fly over…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago

Nick, this is the edge of the world. It is called the Antarctica. It is an ice wall that contains the oceans from spilling over the flat disc. The Antarctica spans the circumference of the disk and is of course out of bounds, because people would know the truth if they were able to go there.
Planes connecting South Africa and New Zealand do…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 5 months ago
Hi Mike.
I watched the video and I have an explanation. Not saying I am correct, but if the Earth globe does go round the sun, then this could be the explanation.
First off, the shadow is at the top of the moon because sunlight is peeping over the horizon and lighting up the bottom of the moon but not high…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 5 months ago
Gene, if Jesus is and was ordinary just like us, then how can we follow him as our Lord, when God said in Jeremiah 17.5: “Cursed is the man who trusts in man
and makes flesh his strength”?Yes Miia. By implication, Gene would have us trust in man if Jesus were just a man. Funny that the disciples never brought that up.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 5 months ago
Nick, believing as the scripture states that he was born the messiah, does not negate the Spirit descending upon him in the manner of a dove in the Jordan through the baptism of John. You have to take all the scripture and trust it is telling you the truth. If it appears to conflict to your CURRENT understanding, then deleting certain scriptures…[Read more]
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