So now the question is posed; Neil or Yeshua?

Do the stars fall or do they not?

Does Yeshua have a double edged sword coming out of his mouth? If not, then is the Bible incorrect? Atheism or the Bible?

See that. This is basically the argument you make here.

Jesus is a MAN, he is my brother but he is also my master, as he is the firstborn of the dead and our Father appointed him king over all of creation.

And all things were created through him. Thus, he is between God and creation. He is the agent of God’s creation.

Nick it says He was before John.
Was He anointed at this time when He was at the age of 12. Yes or no
Give me a straight answer yes or no Nick God bless.

Nick cannot give straight answers like that. Jesus said this happens because of the evil one. We know the evil one is a deceiver and are aware of his vices. He hides the truth and avoids yes…[Read more]

The galactic year, also known as a cosmic year, is the duration of time required for the Sun to orbit once around the center of the Milky Way Galaxy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_year
Did you guys know this?

I was aware that the sun rotated around the galaxy. Wasn’t clued up on how long it took though. Because of this, the North Star…[Read more]

Full moon and sun in the same moment

When I get your response to the full moon in daylight video I debunked, we can move on to another point.

Lost track of this. So many posts here, would take ages to find it.

I will start from scratch with a little story. I went to Auckland in NZ when 1999 clocked over to 2000 AD. I think we were the first to…[Read more]

Could we all agree that “you shall not murder”?
Could we all agree that our children deserves the same or better protection than our politicians?
Why then do we send them to places where protection is prohibited?
And why then is the force of the Federal Government brought against the people to exert money to pay for the murder of millions of bab…

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You can visit Antarctica anytime

Two million dollars?!?  Uh, T8… remember when I said I’d pay?  Yeah, about that…  🙂

Guess what?  After 80+ years of ongoing scientific exploration, we’ve just discovered new mountain ranges and canyons on that icy continent.  And it turns out they’re right next to the south pole for heavens sake!

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The Sun does have a circuit…around the Milky Way.  The moon orbits the earth, the earth orbits the sun, the sun orbits the Milky Way.

Yeah, I realise that. I wonder if galaxies orbit too. Possibly around the Most High. Galaxies could be the heavens and where the throne is could be in the highest heaven.

However, I think the circuit is pro…[Read more]

T8:  From our perspective Mike, the sun has a circuit and that is the point. 

Mike said: That is indeed the point.  The people who spoke about its circuit were not only looking at things from their perspective, but were inspired by God to write what they did, right?

Did you not realise that all believe from our perspective that the sun has a cir…[Read more]

More frustration. Truth does that to people who do not align with it. They come up with all manner of excuses. Let’s hear them.

And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. But the [Read more]

More weeping and gnashing?

After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east arrived in Jerusalem, asking, “Where is the One who has been born King of the Jews? We saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.”

Read the truth and weep.

And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him.

And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord’s Christ.

And he came by the Spirit int…[Read more]

While it is clear that Jesus was born the messiah by confession of an angel of God, that is not the only testimony that contradicts Nick and Gene’s views on Jesus not being born the messiah and not being the messiah for most of his life. And we constantly hear from Nick that the Spirit leads us to all truth, thus he questions us about this because…[Read more]

Then, I definitely want to discuss the moon eclipsing from the top down next.

This seems a sticking point for you. My quick answer is I don’t know, but I imagine the video is either fake or edited. If not, then there is a perfect explanation that could be demonstrated using a 3D model or simulation. The problem is no one seems to have done this…[Read more]

This thread didn’t turn out the way I wanted it to.  I thought I’d go through some evidence – one point at a time – and we’d actually discuss that evidence before moving on to more of mine, or some of yours.

Yes I see your point. The thing is you cannot force structure in a topic, especially if it has lots of posts. What I tend to do with the t…[Read more]

MIKE said: But what are you basing that “no” on?  Because it was God who told Moses the design of the world…

Simply put, the sun doesn’t go around God. He is talking about it from our perspective. God is not only eternal, but is not a man living in the Earth. He is not subject to his own creation. He is not even a servant of time. The truth is w…[Read more]

Translation:  No Mike, I guess it couldn’t have been the Father speaking those words through Jesus after all.  I was mistaken.  And now that you mention it, it couldn’t have been the Spirit of the Son/anointing/Word either, since none of the crowd to whom Jesus was speaking had seen this Spirit.  I guess it must have been Jesus speaking…

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D4T:  Lightenup, I have to wonder once again when some are upholding Scripture that the sun has a circuit and that at one time the sun stood still which goes against what is commonly being taught now,

Mike, there are probably a number of explanations that could describe this. Pole Shift perhaps being one of them. Although I cannot be bothered vi…[Read more]

Nick, to have the right spirit we must believe that Jesus is the Christ. It was declared by an angel that the messiah was born in Bethlehem. But you say he was not the messiah disagreeing with the angel. The Spirit that gives us new birth does not speak with forked tongue.

Perspective perspective perspective

D4T: Lightenup, I have to wonder once again when some are upholding Scripture that the sun has a circuit and that at one time the sun stood still which goes against what is commonly being taught now, how then is it “Christians falling for error”?

From our perspective Mike, the sun has a circuit and that is the…[Read more]