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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 7 months ago
Hey Mike, this stuff is way harder than I thought. It seems hard to find info on these questions, I guess because people do not really look into things like this. I’ve read a whole lotta stuff and one comment I saw said the moon travels the other way. Only saw it once and when I google it, nothing comes up. Who knows at this stage. I will keep looking.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
This idea that Jesus was a random dude like anyone else but had the best resume among men to be the messiah is not taught in scripture.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Because Jodi, if an angel declares that Jesus is the messiah at his birth, TODAY and HE IS, then that it is true. Unless the translation is wrong, those words are correct. If any teaching requires this to be not true that is, not TODAY and NOT HE IS, then the teaching is not true because scripture is true. Too many false teachers have gone out…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Son of God and son of man in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Gene, God can be in people and people in God.
Jodi, the ability to edit a post times out after a while. Editing use to be available all the time, but at least one member used to change their posts and debates when it became clear that they lost and this rendered topic conversations as hard to read. It was a rule that editing had to stop once…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
I see. Denying Jesus is the Christ is of a Spirit that Nick has and if you believe Jesus is the Christ, the same yesterday, today, and forever, you are not being led by the Spirit that Nick has. Anything you would like to add?
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Listen to what the angel says in Matthew, we are directly told that the angel speaking to Joseph concerning the conceived Jesus is the child to fulfill Isaiah’s prophecies, he is named Jesus because he will save his people from their sins, he is called a savior because he will save his people from their sins.
Which means he was born the savi…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
I see. So Jesus wasn’t born the messiah in the City of David as written and declared. You have a spirit that no one else here has. And the test of this spirit is to deny that Jesus is the Christ because Jesus was just a flesh man with the best resume later in life to become the messiah. Further, if any of us agree with you 100%, then they will be…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Hi T8,
Not only do you think you are right,
but now you claim to speak for God, His Son and Scripture?
Wow!
See you did it again. False accusations seem so ingrained in you character that you may not even realise you are doing this. Please pray about this.
I merely quote that today in the City of David… and you get upset and deny exactly…[Read more]
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Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Nick, you should know by now that I am never going to let an argument oppose God, Jesus Christ, and scripture. Please stop being offended then. This will continue and it is what these forums are here for. If you don’t like being challenged, then there are may be many religious forums where you could teach and not be tested. You might also be able…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 8 months ago
Further, a shadow can go backward in the event of an object going forward but if the light source is also going faster forward. I’m trying to picture what is really going on and it is not that easy without an actual model. Your 2D diagrams and argument are way too simplistic to draw all truth from it. It might point out some things correctly, but…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 8 months ago
Your just trying to avoid this Mike by being offended because you don’t want to be challenged outside of your simplistic 2D world. I already acknowledged in a number of posts that you have a point in a 2D world where the earth is stationary and the moon is moving around the earth only. And the most hilarious part is that is closer to a Flat Earth…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 8 months ago
I call BS on that Mike.
You haven’t addressed the math I posted at all. All you have done is stick to your too simplistic 2D understanding of orbits and speed which looks correct on the outset. But I gave you the math and its up to you to show what part of the equation is wrong. Otherwise it adds up just fine. If you can understand the math, then…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Scripture is right Nick. As long as I defend it, then I feel secure. If I go against it, then I would worry.
Hold firmly to the truth, encourage by sound doctrine, & refute those who oppose it.
I have to refute you regarding your opposition to Jesus being the messiah in the City of David. I defend this scripture and declaration from the holy…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Son of God and son of man in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
God and his word are one
And the Logos was WITH the Theos.
Boom!
Proclaimer replied to the topic Son of God and son of man in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
It doesn’t say the Word was the God.
There is no definite article.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Son of God and son of man in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
You know you are always right and you know it is just a case of finding a way to prove others to be deceived.
Yes, if I agree with a scripture, then I am right. If you disagree with a scripture, then you are wrong.
Simple.
Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.
See that? It’s not that I am right…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 8 months ago
Also this. I’m not claiming to have answered your question completely, but every bit I add will eventually lead to the complete answer.
In the first case, since Earth is turning in the same direction that the moon is traveling, any particular spot on Earth’s surface is, in essence, “racing” the moon’s shadow across the globe during a solar…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 8 months ago
Okay, I found a page on space.com that might answer this for you. I will quote it below.
The other thing to consider is that the moon’s shadow is being projected not onto a flat surface, but onto a sphere (Earth). Near the middle of the totality path, the shadow is moving at its slowest along the surface of the planet. But at the very beginning…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 8 months ago
On a 2D model graphic what Mike says makes sense on the outset, but once again do I need to remind you guys that a 2D graphic is not reality, but is used to get a point across at the cost of not representing true distance, scale, and shape.
There is a lot more at play here as the Earth is orbiting the Sun and with the moon locked to the Earth,…[Read more]
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