The Word was WITH God.

Try to think of Jesus Christ who said he was the truth and the life.

He was the Word of Life, the Eternal Life that was with the Father in the beginning.

It is written, so any discord is rebellion against the author and inspiration of scripture.

Let’s see this rebellion in action and who these rebels are.

Go.

It must be painful for some to learn that God created the cosmos through the Word and that God created the cosmos through the son of God, and that he is actually called the Word of God.

Boom!

Again. I never claimed refraction only, but that if the math was correct and there was leftover metres when the plateau was taken into account, then it would have to be refraction. I still stand by that. You act like it is a shameful thing, but then you admit that refraction is real. Worse, you then bring out your own rescuing device called…[Read more]

Come to think of it. 200 metres high seems a bit convenient. I wonder if that is rounded up or down in those two articles.

Thanks Mike.

Here is a coupe of pics taken from Ruapehu just above the tree line (perhaps half way up) looking down toward the trees on the lower flanks and the rural mostly treeless plains below.

The section from Paekakariki village includes spectacular views from a 200 metre high lookout.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/8461242/Kapiti-walkway-on-track

About two kilometers along the escarpment you’ll strike a barrier across the track. Turn there and make your way back. The contractor is working beyond the barrier, taking the track up to a 200-metre lookout point. From there it’ll taper down to finish at the old Muri Railway Station. When the blue line is complete, the whole track will become par…

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So yes, my original mistakenly has 69%, and I still don’t know how I came up with that. But we’ve discussed it since with the correct math. As for the height of the lookout, I believe it was you who told me you were 210 meters high… and I believe I verified it via some online source. I naturally wouldn’t have just pulled a height out of my ass, no…

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Enjoy your dinner and beer.

I wonder if there is more chance of refraction than compression though. How likely is zero refraction on a vista over water compared to compression?

Seems to me that these are both the same kind of evidence.

So while you may revile me for saying ‘refraction’, are you then entitled to say ‘compression’?

What about not being upset at refraction…[Read more]

I don’t see your acknowledgement, T8.  Why not just say, “Yes Mike, we ball earthers base our claims of refraction/miraging on whether or not the distant object SHOULD be seen on the ball earth… and nothing else whatsoever.”

That’s not a correct assessment of the matter. I never claimed refraction only. I claimed you ignored what was under th…[Read more]

I already admitted in a post above on this page.

That if there was any height not explained, that it would be refraction because refraction is a real thing that I believe in and it is more likely there was some refraction than absolute zero refraction. What I could never prove and I never claimed was how much refraction.

And yes correct, if say…[Read more]

Yes, I think you are right there, although I can’t recall you bringing it down to 45% missing.

So the guys pointed out that half the mountain is missing, so it works right?

This one is debunked. My image is absolutely possible on a globe earth.

Phew! I nearly converted to the flat earth right there and then, but I have been saved.
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Mike, you need to understand that I actually said that it could work without refraction, but that because I believe in refraction, that it played an inevitable part because I thought it unlikely that there would be zero refraction with all that water in the image. Further ,I used refraction as the explanation given any meterage that was…[Read more]