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Proclaimer replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 2 months ago
T8……You are right about the first part, but wrong on the last part, Jesus is the “second” Adam, so how could he preexist the “first” Adam.
Let me spell it out for you. He came in the flesh. Before that, he was not a man. The Word became flesh. And he is still called the Word of God. God created all things through him and for him.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 2 months ago
Yes, he came in the flesh. These scriptures you quote do not debunk that Jesus was the Christ in the City of David.
Back to the drawing board Jodi.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 2 months ago
Clearly, the notion that the Ruapehu and infrared photos point to a flat earth or disprove the globe has been debunked.
Can we move on to another point now, or is there something new in this argument that you want to introduce?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 2 months ago
It’s simple Mike.
My photo shows the tree line near the bottom or much closer to sea level than it really is.
But when you see the whole mountain up close, the tree line is around half way up the mountain and then there is the 590 metres to consider under that.
No amount of math changes that right?
Do you now disagree with Dazza on the height…[Read more]
Proclaimer posted a new activity comment 7 years, 2 months ago
That’s the one. And the Spirit of God will turn our bitterness to love because God is love and so are the children of God. Love is even greater than faith.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 2 months ago
It is humorous to think that writing volumes to debunk a simple clear verse is going to convince anyone not to believe.
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.
Amen!
Proclaimer posted a new activity comment 7 years, 2 months ago
Nick, will you love the brethren? The new birth produces this fruit. If you do not love neither are you his. This is not my assumption, it is written. Time is short to get our lives sorted out.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 2 months ago
we are being told that TRUTH is not to be applied to this scripture or that scripture, even when the very surrounding CONTEXT of this scripture or that scripture equates to the very TRUTH of which we speak.
I see.
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.
The context here doesn’t change the truth that…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 2 months ago
Okay, so the infrared photo is debunked, but you would like to resurrect the Ruapehu photo back from the dead. I will address your last post when I have some time.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 2 months ago
If your explanation relies on: “IF the math doesn’t work out in my favor, I’ll cry refraction” – then you’ve already lost.
It doesn’t work like that Mike. If we both agree that refraction is real, then to say no to refraction at all times means you are saying there is zero refraction which I highly doubt is ever the case. I imagine that there i…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 2 months ago
Since when did an honest search for truth and God turn into a “I am right at all costs” pride war?
Life is too short to engage in deception and lies for the sake of one’s own pride in being right when you know you are wrong.
Pretty sad when you think about it. Our soul is of immeasurable worth, but people waste their lives on being cheap like…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 2 months ago
And it’s worse for Ruapehu, since it’s at 39 degrees south – so even farther off the equator, meaning an even smaller circumference, meaning even more inches per mile squared! Of course that means you’ll have to appeal even more to rescue device number 1 for that image!
How can you with a straight face say that my Mount Ruapehu shot points t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 2 months ago
Here we go. Someone else’s take on the figures and there is no prize for figuring out which one’s closer to reality.

Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 2 months ago
now we’re once again seeing more mountain than we should be, right? So now you have to go back to rescue device number 1 again!
Your figures could be off again. I care little about the figures. What I see is a whole lot of missing land. Trying to bamboozle me by throwing in figures that I cannot be bothered working out doesn’t detract one bit fr…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 2 months ago
You lost the minute you changed your rescue device from “refraction is bending it up over the curve” to “refraction doesn’t affect it at all and so we’re seeing what we should be seeing”.
Not at all Mike. That is false. I stated that if there was any leftover that could not be explained by the math, then it could be refraction. I also had my doub…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 2 months ago
Another victory for Team Globe Earth
Behold: the globe earth predicts what we see in that photo. Flat earth theory completely fails to replicate the photo.Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 2 months ago
Mike, your calculations have been wrong before and I haven’t got the time or energy to delve into them and check everything Further, I have already said I have little confidence in the figures that FEs provide. Likewise if you guys say that no part of that mountain should be seen, then you need to check the math.
But the easy fact that is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 2 months ago
Yes Gene, Christ’s father is greater than him. But Christ is the son of God and express image of God and is God
How can you be the image of something and be that something too.
We are made in the image of God, so that is a sure way of alluding to the fact that we are not God.
The woman is the image of the man, so that is a sure way of alluding t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 2 months ago
So there is all this missing land pointing to a globe, but unfortunately for globeballer globalists it got squashed, so back to the flat earth. Dang!
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 2 months ago

A globe earth explains this of course. Please explain this on a Flat Earth. Compression rescue device?
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