Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,11:12)So my question to YOU is: Since the “HolySpirit” is a spirit – which is your classification of this “SPIRIT” #1 or #2? 1. The Father of Spirits 2. Spirits that the Father of spirits is father of.Other.

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,17:30)Hi Kerwin,”Spirit” is a feminine gender word in both Hebrew and Greek as well.Hi Ed,It is a female gendered word in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Syriac. In the Greek language, “spirit” is neuter. And in Latin, it is masculine gendered.I wonder what Kerwin thinks about 1 Cor 1:23-4, which is the verse Abe mentioned in the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 04 2013,13:51)Mike,Proverbs 8 speaks of Wisdom, who is a female.No Kerwin,Proverbs 8 speaks of a person who is metaphorically called by the GRAMMATICALLY female gendered Hebrew word for “wisdom”.Don't confuse GRAMMATICAL gender with PHYSICAL gender.The following is from Wikipedia, concerning the Hebrew word for “spirit”, which…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 04 2013,13:13)All John states in John 1:14 is the Word was made flesh.And did this utterance of Jehovah actually BECOME the flesh and blood man Jesus? Did the original Jesus of Nazareth cease to exist from that time forward because the Word took over the entire existence that used to be Jesus'?

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,11:31)abeQuote Please tell me, why Christ is not the Wisdom of God?good question.Indeed.  In 1 Cor 1:23, Christ is poetically referred to as “the wisdom of God”.  Paul was not saying that Jesus Christ is LITERALLY all the wise thoughts and knowledge that God has.It is a good reference back to Proverbs 8 though, w…[Read more]

“Our Lord” – according to your Peshitta, right?So now what, Kathi?Also, I haven't “declared it to be translated wrong” at all.I gave each of us half a point for this verse, since it CAN faithfully be translated two different ways.  (Well three ways now, since we have that Peshitta information to add to the balance, right?)So take your half a…[Read more]

I am amazed that this guy is still a Trinitarian. He does such an excellent job of pointing out the travesty of the Catholic worship of Mary as the Mother of God. He does a fine job of pointing out that this “Mary” is really none other than Asherah, the “Queen of Heaven”.But he stops short of realizing the obvious: Mary/Asherah would have never…[Read more]

No, we don't agree on that part, Ed.  The spirit OF Mike is not actually Mike himself.MY spirit is not ME.  It is something I possess – hence the words “spirit OF Mike”, or “Spirit OF God”.You did, however, make a good point to 2B. Either the spirit of Christ IS the Father of Spirits………. or it is one of the many spirits the Father of S…[Read more]

So I see we ARE going to stay focused only on that one verse, since you realize there are no others?  Kathi, this is from NETNotes:tc A few mss (א Ψ pc vgmss syph sa) read κυρίου (kuriou, “Lord”) for θεοῦ (qeou, “God”) in v. 1, perhaps due to confusion of letters (since both words were nomina sacra), or perhaps because “our God and Savior, Je…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 03 2013,18:08)God is not a building as in Mikes analogy…………So once again (as USUAL), you are UNABLE to directly address my points, Gene?  I figured as much.This gets old, guys.  I show you scriptures that speak of many gods other than Jehovah.  And then you respond:  Ha ha!  There goes stupid Mike again, talk…[Read more]

The scriptural claim that “God is NOT a man” seems to disagree with your summation, Kathi.

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 03 2013,15:20)Mike,Peter called Jesus 'our God and Savior' but he didn't call Him God the Father. Peter calls two different persons 'God.'No Kathi,Peter spoke about “God”, AND “our Savior Jesus Christ”.  He spoke about BOTH of these people in 2 Peter 1:1, and then he spoke about BOTH of these people again in 2 Peter…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 03 2013,15:04)Mike,Jesus isn't a theos because He is a priest. Your implication that being a priest in the order of Melchizedek means you are a theos in the Godhead baffles me how you made that leap. Jesus is a theos because that is His nature.I'm not sure what you're talking about, Kathi.This is what I'm saying: Mel…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2013,20:04)Hi 2Besee,Can you at least make the print a little larger when you use that small squiggly font.I second that motion.

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2013,11:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2013,03:59)Quote (2besee @ Aug. 03 2013,05:32)The one and the same spirit is called:The Spirit of God,The Holy Spirit,The Eternal Spirit,The Spirit of Christ,The Spirit of the Son.As Paul explained, there is only ONE SPIRIT – it us ONE AND THE SAME SPIRIT.If you do not include the…[Read more]

From Webster's Dictionary:godAny of various beings conceived of as supernatural, immortal, and having special powers over the lives and affairs of people and the course of nature. This definition is accurate, and fits Jehovah, Jesus, Satan, and the other spirit sons of Jehovah (angels).And what's more, all these things are called “god” in…[Read more]

Ed,The word translated as “by” in the first part of Col 1:16 is also translated as “through” 39 times in the AKJV.  After all, “by” and “through” are synonyms.It seems that the last part of verse 16 confirms that it should be translated as “through” – because the last part (“all things were created through him and for him”) is just an affirmation…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 04 2013,00:31)It is my belief Jesus is first called by the name of the Word of God when the Word is made flesh.But to you, the “Word of God” is nothing more than utterances from God's mouth, right?Did God say the word “JESUS”, and His utterance became the flesh person of Jesus?    Was the entire being of Jesus Christ, and a…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 03 2013,12:34)Mike,I have always treated the tense as present tense though the context of the words containing it were in John's future.  Have you?  I could swear that I've seen you “correcting” jammin by insisting the rider will be called the Word of God.  Perhaps I was seeing things?Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 03 2013,12:34)My po…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 03 2013,12:40)Also, 2 Peter 1:1 cannot faithfully be translated in two ways.Sure it can.Are you ready to post your second scripture?  Or are you ready to admit that your interpretation of 2 Peter 1:1 is ALL YOU HAVE in the way of pretending that Peter confused Jesus with “God”?